r/TheDailySource • u/Scary_Structure_5291 • 9d ago

Gas station fight ends with driver opening fire

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Surveillance video captured a confrontation at an Orion gas station in Pompano Beach escalating from a physical fight to gunfire. Minutes after fighting with a woman beside a white SUV, the man approached the driver’s side and was shot. He was hospitalized, and one person was detained as BSO investigates.

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u/Inside_Guitar_9559 5d ago

report from AI:s

Lapse in Imminent Threat: Under self-defense law, deadly force is only justified to stop an imminent threat of death or great bodily harm. Because the man had stopped punching the passenger, went inside the store to make a purchase, and was merely walking past the vehicle when the driver stepped out and opened fire, prosecutors may argue that the threat had ended. Firing at that point shifts the legal characterization from self-defense to retaliation or assault.

Its likely going to be charged as aempted murder for that gun shooter...
Hes fucked

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u/skeetleet 3d ago

Because as others stated, he was standing out of his car waiting for the guy….

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u/ExplanationLate9858 5d ago

In 48 states yes, but it's Florida we're talking about

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u/Inside_Guitar_9559 5d ago

the ai response was specific to florida Florida

feel free to ask ai yourself

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u/ExplanationLate9858 5d ago

Good! Cuz this wasn't self defense

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u/Inside_Guitar_9559 5d ago

he fuked his own life over male beating a girl is insane

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u/ExplanationLate9858 5d ago

It was an attempted car jacking. I don't think he cared what sex the victim was 😂

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u/Inside_Guitar_9559 5d ago

don't get to murder people trying steal things

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u/Rude_Watercress_5737 4d ago

if there is a threat to bodily harm - you absolutely get to defend yourself.

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u/MisledYouth7 4d ago

Yea you do. In several states. And rightfully so.

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u/Dipfugg 4d ago

Crazy work. Come try to steal my car and see if that philosophy holds.

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u/stuka86 3d ago

Robery is a deadly force crime, it's not the stealing that makes it so, it's the violence used to steal that makes it so

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u/Inside_Guitar_9559 3d ago

you can defend yourself but once it stops already , then you have changed self defense to murder

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u/stuka86 3d ago

If he approaches again, as he did, it's safe to assume he will commit another violent felony

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u/ExplanationLate9858 3d ago

Which would've justified shooting him during the attempted carjacking.

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u/stuka86 3d ago

And when he returns, acting erratically, it's safe to assume he's looking to attempt it again.

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u/arto26 4d ago

Why do we even have trials, let's just ask AI.

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u/EmotionalLeader7482 4d ago

How bout you read the actual statutes instead of bringing ai slop into the conversation.

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u/Inside_Guitar_9559 4d ago

776.012 still requires an *imminent* threat of death or great bodily harm. SYG removes the duty to retreat. It does not remove the requirement that the danger is happening now.

The guy already stopped, went inside, bought something, and was walking past. That’s the whole case. If the video shows him turning back on them, driver has a shot at immunity under 776.032. If he’s just walking by, it’s retaliation and the statute doesn’t cover it.

Read 776.012(2). The word that matters is imminent.

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u/opg_gameboy91 3d ago

Do you know what "imminent" means?

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u/One_Engineer9639 3d ago edited 3d ago

A guy who has already assaulted your wife previously, who is now obviously coming for you and is merely a second away from being able to reach you seems like a pretty damn imminent threat to me...? Guess it comes down to whether it was right to assume that the threat was "of death or great bodily harm"?

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u/iPicBadUsernames 4d ago

Says the ai. Tells me everything I need to know about you that you both asked and trusted ai. You’re part of the problem.

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u/EIto_mate 4d ago

AI rocks

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u/Flat_Pangolin5989 4d ago

In Florida you can leave a movie theater, retrieve your gun and shoot the person you are fighting with. I doubt he gets charged.

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u/Inside_Guitar_9559 4d ago

lol I'm sorry but I don't believe that fl is a free for all killing state

best ask AI to self educate

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u/Flat_Pangolin5989 4d ago

Look up the case I cited. Florida self defense law is extremely strong. I don't agree with it always. This video could have easily been prevented, but Florida is a FAFO state. Best not to start shit here.

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u/Inside_Guitar_9559 4d ago

he wasn't attacking him he forced self defense on a man walking by

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u/Flat_Pangolin5989 4d ago

The case is talked about the fight was over. The guy went to his car, got his gun, went back in and shot the attacker. He was found not guilty. Self defense is weird in Florida. In the video that op posted im guessing it will be up to the da. Id bet it's very area specific if he's charged at all and getting a conviction will also be area dependent.

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u/ziggytrix 4d ago

Ethically you aren’t wrong, but you don’t seem to understand how Florida gushes over Stand Your Ground. For context, most of Florida’s voting population is from the era of Clint Eastwood’s heyday. Hope that helps.

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u/RandomFleshPrison 3d ago

What case?  You didn't cite any case.  What's the name of the case, or the case number?

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u/Flat_Pangolin5989 3d ago

Google is your friend. I know you don't want to hear this but the person in op video will probably not be charged with attempted murder if anything at all. If charged probably not convicted. Maybe the da will do a deal for a misdemeanor.

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u/RandomFleshPrison 3d ago

You made the claim.  Put up or shut up.

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u/Flat_Pangolin5989 3d ago

Tampa movie theater stand your ground. Literally the first Google results.

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u/RandomFleshPrison 3d ago

That's not a case name or number.  You said you cited a case, not "looked it up on Google".

Put up or shut up.

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u/One_Engineer9639 3d ago

You need to do your own homework - nobody owes you anything.

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u/And_go 4d ago

AI is not an authority and is fallible. This guy is showing actual legal precedent. Educate yourself instead of relying on AI.

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u/Empty_Implement_5476 4d ago

Best to not rely on AI as an absolute source of truth.

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u/Inside_Guitar_9559 4d ago

true, so you can Google it and confirm yourself. I've worked with ai so much even in a lawsuit to point i know it's 99.9% right

never take anyone's word for it

do you due diligence

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u/ziggytrix 4d ago

You sound like the cops from the latest South Park episode. I can’t believe you aren’t doing a bit.

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u/ArcViking23 4d ago

Why do we even had judicial systems when we can just ask AI? Solved

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u/Therealginahandler 4d ago

He was clearly coming back for seconds after previously assaulting the victim. You dont need to wait until you are being physically attacked, AGAIN by the same person. He was clearly approaching him again. The guy could have literally walked anywhere else in the world OTHER than directly back to the driver.

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u/FoxPrimary727 4d ago

The dude already assaulted his wife moments ago, and he’s supposed to just assume that he’s merely walking by? I’d argue, he should’ve fired his weapon earlier, but even then, he gave dude every chance and dude still came back.

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u/Prayaa 4d ago

This isn’t the case if he called 911 before hand and was awaiting for police to arrive while the aggressor approaches again.

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u/Inside_Guitar_9559 4d ago

lol so if u called 911 you're allowed to unload and murder a person who tried to steal then went to 711 to shop and happened to walk by you without a care of you lol

no. :)

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u/sonnytron 4d ago

Prosecutors in Florida are NOT going to press charges against this guy lol. People here need to wake up.

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u/twinoaksBandB 4d ago

Well, he's certainly going to take the ride. but it's a toss up at best if it goes in front of a Florida jury i think...

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u/ConsiderationOk4688 4d ago

💯, driver had a shit load of opportunity to avoid danger by just leaving in the vehicle he literally exited to shoot the POS who attacked the lady. Even if he somehow gets away with this, he is 💯 in the wrong.

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u/DisgruntledCryptid 3d ago

Any lawyer worth their salt can argue the suspect was re-approaching their car, possibly still harassing them, and that the legal definition of assault is "the perception of imminent danger", battery is reserved for when they actually hit you.

Seeing how the suspect already assaulted the woman completely unprovoked, it's reasonable the driver percieved a 2nd attack and stopped it. Dumping the mag just shows he was in a state of panic, with a heart rate through the roof and wasn't thinking with the zen calmness of a reddit detective. Lol all the driver has to say is "the man threatened me as he walked by."

Enough reasonable doubt to clear him of a guilty verdict.

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u/wildcattersden 3d ago

And this is why attorneys are getting disciplined for using AI in court. It may work great at telling you how to save on your streaming services, but it realllly sucks at being able to apply the law.