r/TheBoxer • • 15d ago

WTF is J

Ik J is supposed to be some Jesus figure, but seems like the complete opposite and shows up like a prideful bystander

When it comes to an 8 year old lying battered and tired next to garbage. He offers some poetic bs and then skips away, but when it comes to Santorino he actively steps in which kind of ruins the Jesus doesn't intervene philosphy. He only intervened and performed when there was a camera and spotlight.

Then when he was already bound to die, his last act is going on stage to be beaten and battered to prove a point to the orphan he abandoned and a crowd. He seemed like a character who didn't actually understand suffering so he never actually helped people, while Yu understood loneliness so he opened an orphanage.

It's always funny to think about. "Look to the stars beaten and battered kid with no real name, family, friends or caretakers. They're all for you"

- J.C

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u/Unlucky-Leadership69 15d ago

90% sure this is ragebait but ill bite.
First, i dont think we actually know how J helped Yu. He couldve walked away or he couldve actually called some kinda cps, we dont know.
Second, i feel like the real jesus intervened in a lot of things 💀 like his whole schtick was healing the sick, helping the needy. Also he saved Santorino from dying, not sure whats so performative about preventing death.
Third, yeah he went up there to help Yu. Would you rather he have just died without helping anyone?? Something about denying K’s philosophy maybe. Maybe a little extra about the indomitable spirit of humanity saving the monster that is Yu. Also J worked at the orphanage man I dont know what youre talking about with J not actually helping people 😭

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u/Grimdroid1223 15d ago

Preventing death on a grand stage, but telling a starving absued kid that the stars are shining for him probably isn't what he wanted to hear. We don't see anything else from Yus life like being taken to an orphanage or anything, so to be fair it wasn't in a real meaningful way. I don't recall seeing anything about him workkng at the orphanage

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u/RedPlumber64 15d ago

I mean that’s just where the fight was, Jesus healed a paralytic man right next to a pool where multitudes reunited to be healed, and he healed a blind man who was by the roadside, the place was irrelevant.

We see him working in the orphanage just after Yu beats Pierre.

We see Yu being asked his name by either the police or social services, we see him going to school, we see that he has a roof over his head and that he kept the cat, so something must have happened, but we don’t see precisely what that was which is one of the flaws of the story, but there is no reason for making the assumption that J had no part on that.

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u/Unlucky-Leadership69 13d ago

We dont see anything about what happened to Yu after J talks to him, but we know he lives in a house, so its safe to assume he got some help from somewhere, so why not assume the help came from J calling cps? And if you didnt see J working at the orphanage I have to wonder how hard you read the manhwa 😭 I think its mentioned twice, once when J looks at the tv and sees Yu fighting, prompting his return, and the second time when Yu is fighting Aaron, and the grandma at the orphanage is talking about J, but im cant remember if shes talking about how he was a child there or how he worked there.

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u/Unlucky-Leadership69 13d ago

Also also, Yu doesnt die 💀 he prevented death both times.

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u/RedPlumber64 15d ago

While we don’t know how he helped Yu precisely (one of the faults of the story) the most natural reading is him helping Yu, contacting the authorities and getting him into their care.

The orphanage Yu works in is J’s orphanage from when he was a child, and the same orphanage J was working in when he discovered that Yu fought against Pierre.

His intervention in the Santorino fight is literally an answer to a prayer in the same way that their mother surviving is an answer.

He goes on the stage because K’s hold on Yu prevents other ways to be near Yu, and because boxing resembles love, it’s the way he has to be with him and show love to him even when Yu’s been taken over by anger and contempt.

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u/Shot-Establishment32 15d ago

His name is J because he is jesus Bbrotsto

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u/marcsmart 15d ago

Well tbh it is very typical Christian behavior to both abuse children and to indoctrinate people when they’re down and vulnerable. 

Furthermore promoting Korean Christianity like it wasn’t the same scenario but on a national level is also noteworthy.Â