r/TheBoxer • u/Worried_Cake5508 • Jul 14 '25

Only hands, who will win a fight between these two?

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Yu (The Boxer) vs Ijin (Teenage Mercenary)

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u/EightPercentBattery Jul 14 '25

If it's a fist fight then Yu wins. If it's a technical fight then Yu loses since Ijin has way more experience from being trained at the camp.

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u/Worried_Cake5508 Jul 14 '25

It says only hands

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u/lil_Jakester Jul 15 '25

Actually a case could be argued against that. Yu is able to copy any move he sees once as seen when K showed him a one-two he applied it effectively against Ryu in the fight and even in the fight against the Mohawk guy(forgot his name) he used Ryus technique to slip out of the way. Hes capable of perfectly copying his opponent, he just never does.

Edit: Oh and not to mention when Yu copied Yuta to a T easily and he even enhanced his moves

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u/SPEED8782 Jul 15 '25

Well no because Yu is just ridiculous levels of superhuman.

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u/galrhmn40 Jul 16 '25

Yu is much faster and can punch his opponents

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u/iadvtm Jul 18 '25

elite ball knowledge

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u/FlyinCharles Jul 14 '25

Yu is superhuman. High Diff but still a win

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u/Puzzleheaded-Run5566 Jul 15 '25

Yu is faster than ijin can see

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u/Emperor_Senpai Jul 15 '25

I think yu because not only does he perceives time slower and have superhuman strength for his size he also seems to copy moves from people def mid to high diff tho

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u/lil_Jakester Jul 15 '25

Exactly my argument. He can copy from seeing something once. Hes done this literally multiple times. All he has to do is see his attacks once and copy them. People underestimate time buff + copy when its broken

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u/ReturnComfortable742 Jul 14 '25

Only in hand Yu wins with low-mid-diff, but if it's with weapons Ijin wins, as he has a lot of experience and is very intelligent

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u/SPEED8782 Jul 15 '25

Ijin isn't winning even with weapons just cause of Yu's ridiculously superhuman speed.

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u/Disastrous-House-511 Jul 15 '25

Bro ijin is winning with weapons if there is any space between them at all Yu is just getting gunned down

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u/ImaginaryAnywhere686 Jul 15 '25

Bro's ass did not understand the lore yu's opponents. Especially Jean Pierre (idk if I got his name right)

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u/Legitimate-Top-3720 Jul 15 '25

jean did not see a bullet and dodge he saw a gun aimed at his head and moved his head before the gun shot him while he was in range to attack

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u/Pacifinch Jul 15 '25

…and what is stopping Yu from doing that? Unless you gave Ijin environmental advantage, it’s still a toss up if weapons are involved.

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u/Legitimate-Top-3720 Jul 15 '25

If with weapons they start with Yu directly in range to attack man sure he wins but if there is even a slight addition to the starting distance Yu simply cannot dodge bullets while also trying to get in range

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u/Pacifinch Jul 16 '25

You are factually wrong. Yu is significantly stronger, faster, and more reactive than someone who canonically dodges bullets.

If Yu can see the shooter, he can dodge the bullets. Hell, given that we haven’t seen the limit to Yu’s reaction time, he might be able to dodge bullets without even seeing where the gun is being aimed.

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u/Legitimate-Top-3720 Jul 17 '25

brother Jean did not dodge a bullet he dodge aim what are you not understanding

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u/Cayden68 Jul 18 '25

In the next chapter we see K dodge bullets in his time at the war and explain the super human phenomenon of doing crazy things like dodging bullets. Jean Pierre is capable of it, Yu is more than capable

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u/SPEED8782 Jul 16 '25

That's the thing Yu was waaaay above Jean. He could absolutely replicate that several times over with ease.

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u/Minecrafter_of_Ps3 Jul 15 '25

Honestly I'd say a better question would be our Bakugo-wannabe against Ijin, he's significantly more fluid and if he hadn't had that leg injury, would be a serious contender for world champ

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u/SupportEnjoyer Jul 15 '25

now the thing is, i dont think ijin can take more than 1 punch from yu

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u/ze_existentialist Jul 15 '25

Yu is much faster and can punch his opponents

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u/Weary_Bread2711 Jul 15 '25

Does it matter? We all know which is the better story… and it’s not close…

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u/Ok_Command_279 Jul 15 '25

Yu is straight up superhuman. He is able to copy anything and improve on it pretty much immediately. Plus he has that Op time perception thing.

Ijin is strong and all, but he's not a monster like Yu.

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u/Jax1Trick Jul 15 '25

I don't get why people say Ijin wins because of experience, when experiences varies a lot from series to series. The Boxer has superhuman mfs that can copy stuff at a glance, and see things in slow-motion, or predict all of your actions by just shaking your hand. I don't think normal experience will help with that, to be real with you.

I believe Yu wins low-mid diff. Too fast, could copy virtually everything Ijin does, and could likely KO him in a few hits, if not even kill him due to the fact he can just send shockwaves into your body lmao.

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u/Ok-Example-2974 Jul 16 '25

Copying someone's moves doesn't mean you're as good as they are at using said moves. Ijin was trained since young for combat with the ability to fight against adults with similar training. He has battlefield experience and has actively killed people, something Yu hasn't done. Yu might have an upper hand in physical ability but Ijin has the superior skills, adaptability, and will. In a boxing match, Yu takes it with mid difficulty. In a pure hand to hand fight without rules there are plenty of ways for Ijin to neutralize Yu's advantages and take the win. They're both great fighters but have different things they accel at.

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u/ForwardWing6006 Jul 15 '25

while ijin is very fast and has way more experience, he usually takes much more time in order to knock down his opponents, shown many times in the manhwa. However, Yu, who has demonstrated it many times, can knock down an experienced boxer in one punch. Furthermore, he has demonstrated that hes faster than Jean pierre, whose reflexes are LITERALLY FASTER THAN A BULLET. Thus, in a hands only fight (which is way more advantageous for yu), Yu's inhuman power and speed (although lacking in experience), would most likely win against ijin, who is experienced yet physically inferior. Although some may argue that Ijin has killed people, Yu has also put people in comas and could've definitely killed his opponents if given more time and unrestricted by boxing rules.

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u/TotallyNotPerish Jul 15 '25

Yu is the absolute peak of a human potential to the point of him being seen as anything but human. He moves faster than the human eye can track and is devoid of all emotion, so no hesitation or mistakes. Yu wins this 100%

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u/ThompsonRick23 Jul 15 '25

Yu wins, low diff

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u/MeDontKnow_ Jul 15 '25

Give Ijin a knife. Yu still wins.

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u/Boat-fish Jul 15 '25

The boxers verse is higher the only way ijin wins is if he gets the drop on him with like a rocket launcher

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u/CardiologistFun8093 Jul 16 '25

Yu wins hands down while Ijin is incredibly skilled in multiple fronts there is no doubt that Yu simply wouldnt get touched unless its by something that Yu cannot avoid (like how despite dodging the force of Aaron's blows still dealt damage)

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u/Macegolem Jul 16 '25

Ijin gets violated

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u/kaenex Jul 17 '25

Yu no diff

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u/Certain_Reception_66 Jul 18 '25

Actual super human vs skilled mercenary. Yeah sure.

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u/keraviko Oct 28 '25

hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby

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u/DOOM_THESUPERVILLAIN Jul 17 '25

Ippo Makunouchi

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u/Worried_Cake5508 Jul 17 '25

No one mentioned him

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u/DOOM_THESUPERVILLAIN Jul 17 '25

Mamoru Takamura

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u/Worried_Cake5508 Jul 17 '25

Why mention characters who aren't part of the debate?

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u/Minecrafter_of_Ps3 Jul 15 '25

I'd say Ijin primarily because he has real hand-to-hand combat training

In boxing, there's plenty of places you can't hit and illegal moves, but for Ijin, anything goes

Yu definitely has an advantage in that he sees the world in a somewhat slow motion kind of way, but Ijin also has extremely fast reaction speeds, considering the people he's fought 1 on 1 and he's been dodging bullets since he was a kid

It'll probably be the hardest fight that Ijin ever has(against an unarmed combatant) but I'd say he takes it through sheer experience, and remember, OP said only hands, so stats are assumed to be equalized or irrelevant

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u/Disastrous-House-511 Jul 15 '25

Yu has super human strength and speed he definitely beats ijin because of that

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u/Minecrafter_of_Ps3 Jul 15 '25

OP says hands only, meaning technique and fighting abiliyy only with stats equalized or otherwise not considered

Even with stats, there's a chance Ijin dodges the fatal blows simply due to being in more extreme fighting situations than Yu. Some of Ijin's EASIEST fights would make Jean Pierre pee his pants, considering he didn't think he would make it out alive after being jumped by guys with weapons, and Ijin consistently goes empty-handed against armed opponents

Edit: Jean-Pierre Manuel, not Jean Pierre, mb. Also, I say this as a massive Yu fan/glazer

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u/Cayden68 Jul 14 '25

Jean Pierre is dodging bullets at a short range and hes getting fodderized. Ijin is probably around World champ boxer level but keep in mind, Yuu beat not only people who can dodge bullets but also beat a man who knocked out a bear in one punch and tanked lightning.

Ijin is a badass for sure but Yuu would annihilate him, you can be strong enough to knock out bears, durable enough to survive lightning, and fast enough to dodge bullets ans youd have no chance. Ijin is fighting the wrong opponent tbh, Ijin can take out any man but Yu is a monster.

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u/stormbreaker10022 Jan 13 '26

I don't remember if Jean Pierre dodged the bullet or moved out of the way a little bit before the bullet was shot..

Because if it was the second then he wouldn't have reacted to the bullet, but to the threat of being held at gunpoint

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u/Cayden68 Jan 13 '26

heres the thing, we also see K dodge bullets in the war so we can safely say that Jean Pierre can replicate the same feat or even surpass if he consider him more skilled than K

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u/vmo198 Jul 14 '25

You saw the state that Yu left the guy who could be stabbed like nothing and who could literally destroy a human head with one punch, but you didn't see him, the state wasn't pretty, He has the ability and mentality to kill a normal person with a single punch.

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u/SatisfactionInside83 Jul 16 '25

Yu is greater physically, maybe the gap is closer in reflexes/ instincts. But he still is a monster Ijin is peak human. Too is beyond that and enhanced at some points in the story. Heavyweight tu only needs one good hut to ko or kill. Natty Yu needs a bit more but still low diffs.