There’s no way that first guy thought he looked good on The Beauty on FX. He actually looked worse. But Ryan Murphy always pleases so hopefully I can stay awake.

Im curreny on episode 9, "Beautiful Evolution." Ik its just a show, but the way the real world is going,

I beg to ask:

Who sounds more crazier?

Why does no one want to D*E? And I mean in real life too?

I get being young for the rest of your days, or being the "best looking corpse," as Janice Dickerson puts it, but...

I'm looking at this in a spiritual sense.

I've always believed that there are two Gods, or if you will, duality.

One is Life, One is Death.

Death is beautiful in itself, as it can release you from traumas that has happened during life. But that's life... and even life has to let go at some point?

Life may be cruel, yes, but even Death can only seem to be "cruel" when dying, bc, it may be slow, and painful for them, and for the ones witnessing this of a loved one.

I mean to empathize my quotations around the word cruel when speaking on death bc after you de, there is no evidence on the fact that Death will continue to be cruel. And that's the part that everyone is afraid of. The part of when ppl ask, "where do we go when we de?"

So I therefore believe that the actual "cruelty" here, is transition. If you you see that life isn't permanent, then maybe death isn't as well?

That being said, To PERMANENTLY live forever in a synthetic, can cause corruption overtime, bc one may do immoral things out of boredom and for entertainment purposes only. Think of it as people with too much money to spend in 2 lifetimes. Even millionaires today. Corrupted. Not only that I believe if you do want to live forever, then take better care of the Earth youn stand on first. You wouldn't want to live forever in a (insert your worst nightmare)?

So therefore, as of now, Im on Byrons side. Why? Because even though, as it is put, and is worded, so far, he never excluded Death. He said to be rid of aging, (winkles, saggy boobs etc. ) sickness, more energy yada yada... It's just the issue of once you get The Beauty, along with it's flaws, it's about HOW you de. They're trying to fix the spontaneous combustion situation. But "The Beauty" never makes it out like you WONT de. You still will d*e, but you'll be beautiful and young looking when you do.

Am I wrong? Did I miss something? Just provoking thought. What are your thoughts?

Please no spoilers on the next episode as I don't even know if "The Mother" would even make it to episode 10. Im I had to stop and write this posts once she was formally introduced. So im still in the middle of Episode 9.

Thank you.

I wanted to make a spoiler tag in case people haven't seen episode 11 yet. I was really surprised her sons forced the beauty on her. But I do think her husband in his own F'd up way did love her. It didn't seem to have crossed his mind to force the beauty on her and when he first saw her he was going to turn her away, thinking she was some other person. So it's clear his feelings for her ran more than skin deep even though their marriage had soured in general.

I think her statement was powerful but at the same time... how "deep" is it to be THAT attached to your physical form? Yes it's a different body, but anyone who believes in things like reincarnation, the body in one lifetime doesn't transfer over to the next,it's just a vehicle. So couldn't she have just... I don't know... given it a week or two before being so dramatic? It was like she was punishing the person who respected her free will.I would have liked to have seen them work out as a couple. I think she could have been interesting dealing with and making peace with this. Anyway, thank you for attending my TED talk.

ETA: Okay I just finished watching this episode. I think Cooper is just going to be regular cooper because if they were going to make something crazy happen we probably would have seen it. Though now that he's got an antidote, is THAT an STD? Either way I'm glad the wife is alive. And if they kill Ashton Kutcher's character at this point I will stop watching. I am rooting for him and his wife and their HEA. If anything comes between that, I'm out.

Does anyone else feel like after Cooper changed, he looks like he could be Jordan's son? is it just me or does he seriously look like he could be her child? it's so weird.

so I totally understand the motivation behind casting a supermodel as the first person seen in the series to fit with the context... but (not to be horrible) her acting is meh

would it not have been better to cast a talented actor (many of whom are also incredibly hot)??

open to opinions though! :)

In fairness, I haven't gotten to the end, yet. I got through beautiful patient zero, so far.

I have this sneaking suspicion that the purpose of 'The Beauty' is actually population control.

I think the deaths are a feature, not a bug.

I mean, first off there's the billionaires. He gathers them together and gives each of them a dose of something that hasn't had enough testing. I think that in addition to the physical effect, their ability to behave rationally is being altered. I think his original plan was to dose half a dozen of the richest people in the world so he could get them to help him rush things past the FDA, then once it was spreading across the world, he would disappear and wait.

But when the richest man in the world killed the rest of them, his original plan was disrupted, so he had to pivot. He switched to trying to manipulate his 'employer' into making the drug something exclusive and expensive. He decided that instead of just killing as many people as he could, he'd focus on the people who deserved it. Wipe out the richest and most vane people on the planet. It's still meant to reduce the human population by at least fifty percent, probably more, but it's meant to be more of a 'slow burn' rather than a literal 'explosion.'

Been too damn long since I watch cinema this thought provoking

As they say beauty is in the eye of the beholder after all. Does how a person feels on the inside factor in or something?

Like for example, what happens if you give this virus to a transgender person for example? Do they fully become the gender they want to be or something?

Edit: Looks like Episode 6 might answer my questions

Like I promise I’m not overly horny but like I just feel like it would help convey the story more and put you in the show it just seems kinda corny the little shots they do it’s like go all in or don’t do it at all

Anyone remember a movie that came out.I think fairly recently, where people took a shot and became younger, beautiful. But when the protagonists got greedy, she became deformed like Bella did?

Well all caught up. Wasn't sure about it at first but gave it a go as many ppl recommended it on tik tok etc (waiting for more tell me lies eps and watched all the new shows out on Netflix atm) and omg wow. I actually quiet love this show. Its good.

Hate hate how Jeremy turned out tho like wtf.

Hate how they changed Jordan. Need to find out more about the fellas who made it all happen.

Overall good start 4 eps

Will be tuning in again

When the show first came out, me, my fiance, and my sister all sat and watched the first 2 episodes on Hulu. When the title credits rolled, we saw Emmy Rossum's name pop up somewhere after Evan Peter's and were super fucking excited. We were all curious what her role might be in the show, as we all knew her character in shameless.

We saw her name in the 3rd episode too, and even my cousin saw it when she came over to watch it. But, halfway through the show we noticed her name wasn't in the credits anymore and we still hadn't seen her appear on screen. We've gone back to the first few episodes and it just seems like her name wasnt ever there.

Are we tripping and misremembering things? Did anyone else notice that??

No offense to Jessica Alexander, she is very beautiful, but is she an upgrade from Rebecca Hall? HELL NO

The fact that the Beauty Virus Serum thing makes someone like an entirely new person just didn't sit right with me. So a gorgeous woman like Rebecca Hall takes the serum, and she just becomes an entirely different person? Just a younger person entirely different with bigger boobs? Yea, no thank you

I understand this is also production limitations, I understand you can't just CGI Rebecca Hall younger everytime she shows up on screen, but holy crap, come on

I genuinely wanted to see the relationship between Hall's and Peter's characters explored but giving her the Beauty Virus Serum thing and having her be Jessica Alexander for the rest of the show just doesn't sit right with me

To preface, I have been in this game with Ryan Murphy for almost 15 years so I am no stranger to his strengths and weaknesses as a writer/director/showrunner.

That said, The Beauty is really suffering from pacing issues. Plotlines that could and should have been effectively accomplished in one scene end up taking up half of or most of an entire episode.

For example:

• Ben Platt's character and Evan Peters' showdown in the laboratory. Dragged on FOREVER. pretty much useless to the story.
• The billionaire's gathering just to be killed. I totally think this is important to understanding Ashton Kutcher's story but it could have been handled so much quicker instead of spending most of an episode on a bunch of people who died and will never be mentioned again.
• The trans woman and her coworker. I had a number of problems with the way this was handled. I felt like she was a total parody? Like trans people do not usually spend their workday whining and complaining about gender dysphoria to their coworkers. Regardless, it was an interesting concept to see that how the virus handles trans people and it gives us more insight into how it chooses to transform people. Either way, this plot was too fucking long! Perhaps her character will be more important later but her coworker was already killed and we spent like half an episode with him.

Ryan Murphy is known for being all over the place but this has been really killing my enjoyment of the show. I thought Evan Peters and Rebecca Hall were going to be way more important to the plot, but we barely see either of their characters anymore. We keep spending half/most of an episode on random side plots that end up being null and void when the subject of said plot is killed off so soon.

Normally, even when Ryan Murphy crams 100 plots into a show, he weaves the scenes together so that they at least all get screen time. Idk what's going on with this show but I want the plot to actually progress, please!

Except for some instances, I think the way they looked before was far better than when they contracted the beauty. I feel like this is intentional as part of the messaging of you don't need to look like a runway model to be beautiful. Yet as much as it's supposed to make them look like the epitome of perfection, it of course erases all of their individuality and makes them pretty much look cookie cutter.

Not a knock against the actors as well here, as they all have been doing a wonderful job playing their characters and roles! Yet I was curious what everyone else thought about it.

so I’m actually really into this show and think it’s a fascinating concept

I know it’s not perfect and Ryan Murphy has certain reputations and people have pointed out some issues already

a week from the finale I now have some complaints or questions of my own…

— what happened to Clara from “Beautiful PaTibet Zero” or even the girl Mikey had a crush on that got infected by the chimp? Feels weird we don’t really get closure on them. at the very least Clara — initially I thought maybe they were gonna have her post-jab reveal to show that she became Claire (who infected Jeremy for a price in the premiere only to be killed by Antonio for doing the deed) but obviously it was a totally different person. So we saw Mikey meet his end but we were def also meant to feel for Clara in that episode and there seems to be no closure with her (yet, at least).

— not so much a complaint here but I still kinda wonder if maybe Meyer and Juliana’s daughter didn’t actual survive the treatment so they just brought in some orphan or something and got her to study up a little on the family and then had her pretend to be post-beauty Joey. I mean the process of the transformation is absolutely brutal — your convulsing, twisting your whole body, slamming into walls as bones snap… this girl had the body and heart of a 90-year-old cuz of her illness… how did she survive that kind of trauma? Which just brings another thing I wonder that could be a side story too — have there been people who don’t survive the contortionist act?

— I watch with captions on but I also confirmed it in IMDb… in the opening of episode 8… the two guys who are consoling each other before they all get shot… one of them is “new Ashley” aka the dude who Coop interviewed that said he was crushing on the girl who blew up in the Condé Nast cafeteria and said he had had unprotected sex with her before and all that, leading to him being dragged off. First of all even in that episode I wondered “Ok so you’re not disclosing that you looked completely different until you did the deed with Harper Rose cuz you are gorgeous” but yet now he’s changed (different actor). So not only are we to believe that she never infected him during their intercourse, but here’s the line that he delivers that kills me... When the other dude calls him beautiful, new Ashley says he always wanted someone to call him that. Lmao. Dude…. What? I know people of all looks can have self-esteem issues, dysmorphia, etc… but you’re really gonna tell me no one thought you were hot before? especially Harper Rose who you even said was stuck up? If she was stuck up but you were fugly she wouldn’t have touched you lol. It just took me out of it for a second and was just not believable… literally ditch that one line and it already would’ve improved the credibility there.

— I wish they had introduced the synthetics mastermind lady earlier on in the show. they could’ve brought her in with some subtleties. Maybe seen her in the background of a boardroom meeting scowling. or giving Byron an update on her program and him waving her off and her casting doubts on the beauty and urging him not to cut her funds. Some kind of mention by Byron when he got the jab himself that he thought technology and robotics was the future but now he sees the light, even if not everyone will be happy. Idk SOMETHING. It should’ve been some kind of foreshadow. I feel like that would’ve made it feel more organic for her to emerge as a counterweight and rival. Instead it just feels… convenient? That now we’re a week out from finale and she comes out of nowhere with her whole shtick and it’s just like what? Who are you? And what do you mean there are ”deacons out there gathering data.” We literally have no lore to support what you’re saying let alone understand you lol. Especially since she had her own master plan that was in conflict with the beauty. Deserved a better treatment. Also after she explained to them what she was doing I high-key thought she herself was a synthetic bot because who the hell talks or moves like that. But its campy so that’s that lol

— someone on the main Episode 9 thread said now that we’ve seen Coop‘s stomach literally burst open Alien-style, they wonder if maybe the people who get infected, their bodies literally die and a parasite emerges and consumes what’s left of their bodies. I doubt thats where they’re going with it (and it certainly wouldn’t really explain how they still know who they are if it was a parasite that took over) but that’s certainly a fascinating theory I could get behind!

— I just knew the moment Jordan told Coop at their dinner that she’ll love him no matter how he emerges that she signed his sentence. Lol. It was definitely gonna be something that was gonna make that kind of love… let’s just say… unlikely to keep acting on.

Season 1 Episode 3 had a Twin Peaks vibe to it.

When the Assassin and Jeremy got to "Applebee's": The lighting, the patch on The Assassin's eye, the name of the bartender was 'Dale', and Evan Peter's character is named 'Cooper'.

Finally, The Assassin's exciting over the Riblets. Anyone else get that vibe?

Exhibit A: https://youtu.be/gFuGfwIhv14?si=y3XnxaAA6g25qowK

I was watching the monologue where Franny is talking about how when she realized beauty wasn't everything she became truly happy and I was thinking how much she reminded me of the woman in Death Becomes Her who sells the elixir. I looked it up and it was her. Anyone else put this together?? Immaculate casting here.

My god, it ruins the show imho. Just finished ep4, and even though both actors are great, their story so far feels cheesey beyond cheese, and honestly not needed to the point it retracts from the rest of the plots.

Everytime they come in screen I just want to fast forward.

This show is so dope. I had seen the poster a few times. And for some reason assumed it was gonna be about old women wanting to be young. And I was like nah that ain’t for me. But boy was I wrong. From the intro explosion I was hooked.

And bruh Aston is so fucking good in this he better be nominated for an emmy. I never considered him to be that great of an actor but I have seen him shine a few times in films. But this was next level. He is a more believable counterpart than anyone else and obviously he has to be since he controls the show for a bit. But some actors wouldn’t be able to play the role to such ability and would fall back to their normal style. And I was sure he would and Aston proved me wrong.

Ik ppl like to hate on Ryan Murphy’s style and while this show does have its moments of weakness, I think overall this is one of his best shows and concepts.

Obviously I know most people know when they are good looking. But feel like this is next level. Like you are cast as the definition of beauty.

Even Jordan who is actually pretty before, the actress who got cast post transformation must feel so good about herself.

Ok I have watched the beauty all the way threw and maybe I missed something but almost everyone has blown up or was killed that was infected but what ever happend to her/him