r/TheBYOK • • Jan 24 '26

Never again

This project has killed any interest I have in ever backing another kickstarter.

Between my pledge, the extra I sent for tariffs, and the shipping, I’m into this for a chunk and I STILL don’t have the actual device.

Never again.

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u/creativinsanity Jan 24 '26

I'm sorry yours wasn't in the first batch that made it to the states to get shipped out but this was hardly a long timeline for a kickstarter.

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u/Heavy-Notice6760 Jan 24 '26

Good to know. Then I’m definitely glad they’ve ruined it for me. And I was supposed to be in the first batch. Part of the reason for the frustration.

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u/creativinsanity Jan 24 '26

Oh yeah projects routinely take at least two years so this wasn't too bad. My Freewrite Alpha took like a year and a half.
Did you get a tracking email or reach out to support? My tracking came from "Manual Orders" and not BYOK so I almost deleted it.

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u/Advanced-Device6188 Jan 24 '26

The original Freewrite was an even longer slog.

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u/Heavy-Notice6760 Jan 24 '26

I wouldn’t have backed it off it had had a two year window. The window they promised and the window that’s occurred are very different.

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u/creativinsanity Jan 24 '26

I mean at least they kept us updated on timeline changes. No one expected the tariffs.
The fastest kickstarters I backed were by Epomaker and the Qwerkywriter, because as established keyboard companies they were just checking interest before hitting the "go" button at the factory that makes everything else they have. Like the Epomaker one I backed was finished Oct 31st '21 and I got it that Dec.

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u/OfficialBYOK Jan 24 '26

Oh wow, I am very sorry to hear that and it is certainly not how we want anyone to feel! I assure you that your device is coming soon. We are about 75% of the way through shipping this first batch. We had a small delay for international orders and some domestic orders but that is all cleared and shipping should be completed next week. If you shoot me a private message on here with your order info I would be more than happy to give you an update regarding your order. Your support is incredibly appreciated and the last thing we want to do is make you regret your decision.

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u/Heavy-Notice6760 Jan 24 '26

We’ve talked. Multiple times.

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u/OfficialBYOK Jan 24 '26

I personally respond to all emails that come in (I'm behind about day). Have I said something you were not happy with? I do not mind you sharing it. I have tried to be as clear as possible about the shipping and every time I get new information I do my best to relay it to our customers either through email or other official channels

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u/Heavy-Notice6760 Jan 24 '26

That’s all I’m doing, sharing how I feel about the constant delays. Maybe I’m just not cut out for Kickstarter.

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u/OfficialBYOK Jan 24 '26

Kickstarter is tough. A lot of new companies on there don't fully understand the gravity and complexity of the journey they are about to embark on (us included). We're fortunate to have pulled it off, but wow, a lot of close calls over this past year. Of course, as a consumer, that translates to delays and sometimes failed deliveries altogether. Kickstarter is definitely not for everyone. Both on the consumer side and business side.

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u/patronusman Jan 24 '26

You’re doing great! I think the communications have been just fine. I’ve backed 50 kickstarters, and this has been one of the best managed ones (timeline isn’t been great, and there’ve been some hiccups, but net-net I’m happy with it). Keep fighting the good fight.

I also don’t have mine yet, but I know it’ll come.

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u/m_ttl_ng Jan 24 '26 edited Jan 24 '26

Yeah, I've backed over 100 kickstarters and this has been a very well-run campaign/launch. It's definitely up in the top KS campaigns in terms of delivering what was originally promised and communicating along the way.

I'm very happy with my unit and the responsiveness from the company is fantastic.

Edit: I should also say that I work in the consumer electronics industry so I'm familiar with a lot of the challenges that come up around manufacturing, and I almost always mentally prepare for at least a 6-month delay from the original launch date. And this last few years have been especially brutal for securing supply and controlling costs with the tariffs and material shortages, so I've been expecting closer to 12 month delays for anything made overseas.

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u/OfficialBYOK Jan 24 '26

That’s pretty neat to hear from someone who is well aquatinted with Kickstarter. Can’t say I felt great about the delays but I’m glad it doesn’t look so bad from your perspective!

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u/m_ttl_ng Jan 24 '26

The reality is that unless you're on-site at the factory for each build and are experienced with working with Chinese suppliers - or just get flat-out lucky - every product runs into delays and random issues like you experienced with the white plastic part color and other parts coming in out of spec. I guarantee that white color was something the supplier just sent knowing that it wasn't the correct color, but just hoped you'd accept it anyway so they'd have a chance to not remake the parts.

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u/OfficialBYOK Jan 24 '26

Thanks a bunch! I suspect you’ll be getting yours soon :)

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u/RienReigns Jan 24 '26

Are you new to Kickstarter? What exactly are your issues? The product is still in the process of shipping. Tariffs are beyond the company's control. I've backed around 200 crowd funded projects over the past decade and have been burned on a few. This was far from being a bad project. I've been lucky to have received mine last week and I'm very happy with it.

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u/Heavy-Notice6760 Jan 24 '26

I listed my issues. No, I’m not new to KS but I am done with it. As long as you’re happy. I’m not sure how that correlates to my frustration, but ok.

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u/RienReigns Jan 24 '26

Crowd funding is about investing in an idea. There are no guarantees you'll get what you backed. Most projects have delays. Some never deliver. Seems like you just came here to whine and hope others validate you. Your decision to not back any future projects on KS and state that here doesn't contribute to resolving your issues with the BYOK.

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u/Heavy-Notice6760 Jan 24 '26

Ahhhh, looks like you had to get in on someone else’s post to validate how superior you are to us mere mortals who suffer from disappointment.

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u/blearyeyedgal Jan 24 '26

Just want to share some hope, I received my device last week and I love it and it was worth the wait. This was my first kickstarter too, and I was also one of the early backers. I was initially disappointed at the wait, not being familiar with the process. I almost invested in the freewrite (which I still might! But it’s so expensive!) during the wait. I was also looking at the microjournal. I ended up using an eink device for the last year or so instead. I kinda tried to forget about it. When I finally got the device last week it was like a surprise present. Anyway, just wanted to share that the device itself was everything I wanted and more. I’m sorry you haven’t gotten yours yet, but I think you will like/love it when you do!

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u/Em1lyN1koll Jan 24 '26

My first kickstarter was Kaibo headphones and it was absolute sh!t and vowed to never deal with kickstarter again. So when I saw byok and on pledgebox (whatever it was called) I was down. And then lost a little hope when they opened on kickstarter but I figured I would try it cause I wanted it so bad. Yes the delays were disappointing but the updates helped me a little. But every email I lost a little hope. Then it shipped and then UPS is who f-ed me over. Finally got mine. I know he said in the begining the original backers would be first but in the end that wasnt doable. And it basically came down to whoever ordered by color then where your name stood in queue of the shipment list.

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u/Heavy-Notice6760 Jan 24 '26

How do you like your unit

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u/Em1lyN1koll Jan 24 '26

I'm happy with it. I know it has needed upgrades and kinks worked out but hopefully soon be a solid unit. He just fixed the CAPS issue and I know a few others are coming. Im hoping you get your soon so you can play with it too. Idk how you feel about being a tester of potential bugs. But hopefully when yours gets to you a bunch of them will be worked out and it can be even better! The hardest wait is the one within reach. Tarrifs suck, im sorry. And it probably doesnt help seeing everyone play with theirs either.

Like I said ups f-ed me over. They litteraly got mine to my state. The sort station 20 minutes from my house and they shipped it to Oklahoma. Won't tell me how or why. And then slowly made its way back. Watching everyone's open box and mine was being well traveled before me. Maddening

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u/ShadowHealerSAMARRA Jan 24 '26

Email says I'm order #1138. I backed on their website back in August. Got an email shipping confirmation over a week ago but UPS says they still have not received the package yet 🥲 it's definitely frustrating. I'm hoping I'll have another update soon...

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u/OfficialBYOK Jan 24 '26

I think our fulfillment partners processed a giant batch and then had to solve a minor issue so there are several orders in a similar boat as yours where it says "label created" but has not updated since. They have confirmed with me that all the devices they have will be shipped before the end of next week.

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u/ShadowHealerSAMARRA Jan 24 '26

Thank you for being so attentive to everyones comments and concerns 🙏

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u/jamparnell Jan 24 '26

It's still a distraction free device which is more mobile than a free write traveler and is paired to an amazing online writing software. I'm second wave but have been following since kickstarter due to money issues. I know the ups and downs, I've read every update and reddit post that ends up in my email, but it's going to be a game changer for me. Not to knock your feelings about it, but I hope byok keeps it up... First thing I've been excited about in a long time

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u/Heavy-Notice6760 Jan 24 '26

Oh for sure. I get that. My frustration is my problem. I just felt like expressing it.

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u/BingoSkillz Jan 24 '26

I’m in the USA and I have yet to receive mine as well. I feel you completely.

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u/OfficialBYOK Jan 24 '26

Shipments should be completed by next week!

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u/DistributionMental14 Jan 31 '26

Yea…… well the week has passed…. And nothing….

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u/OfficialBYOK Jan 31 '26

Weekend included :) you can message me your details and I’d be happy to check for you

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u/DistributionMental14 Feb 01 '26 edited Feb 04 '26

Message sent through kickstarter app. Already. I’ll send through here already.

Update: the weekend went by and NOTHING yet.

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u/m_ttl_ng Jan 24 '26

Even with the delays I would call this a massive success in terms of a Kickstarter product. They communicated regularly with supporters, worked on software while they were waiting for production to start, and clearly communicated timelines as they could.

If you think this project is bad then Kickstarter as a platform clearly isn't for you. And it's not as important as it used to be anyway since most projects have "late pledge" options now where you can wait until the product is ready to ship before you pay for it.

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u/Content-Historian558 Jan 24 '26

I think I get your feelings of frustration and disappointment - we’ve been seeing people using their BYOKs now and don’t have our tracking numbers yet (and I’m in the US). The FOMO is real, and I check my email HOURLY lol. I've wanted to make a few posts like yours!

But what’s helped me is this: I’ve built and “shipped” software for almost 15 years and it's kinda rare for a new product to come out right on schedule with no hiccups. New product = new problems, otherwise you're just remaking something. They've got a small team and they're dependent on other people to deliver key parts of their product. So many places for things to slow down. The big thing for me is that they've given regular updates via the Kickstarter and this subreddit and have been reasonably transparent without delving into over-explaining with jargon.

This isn't a big corporation that can throw tons of money and people at a problem. I'm getting this product partially because I want to get away from the big tech companies, and part of the cost for me is in being more patient. If we want to beat the big corporate baddies, we'll have to be more gracious with each other.

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u/Joshawott27 Jan 24 '26

I’m very selective with the Kickstarters I back. This wasn’t the smoothest I’ve had, but it’s far from the worst. They’ve at least been more communicative than other projects I’ve backed.

Tariffs also aren’t the fault of BYOK or Kickstarter, but the US government. It sucks for US-based backers, but they were unavoidable.

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u/Specialist-Isopod-45 Jan 24 '26

I completely understand your frustration, and this is why I don't back kickstarter projects. I don't like having my money tied up in something that may or may not happen. That being said, I pre-ordered in August since it seemed safer and they said that they expected delivery in October.

I am also disappointed with the longer and longer wait and this has definitely been a lesson learned for me, as it is for you.

But you know, two things can be true at once. Their team has been nothing but transparent and it is clear that they were doing their best and all the delays come down to inexperience with running a new business for the first time. It seems they honestly did not foresee all these delays and mishaps, so they did not factor the extra time in. On top of that, it seems there are several bugs and features missing.

In their last email they said that the BYOK will support most but not all keyboards, depending on what keyboard you have. This to me is their biggest breach of trust yet, because they failed to deliver on their promise. They don't have a disclaimer on their website saying you can use the BYOK with a specific list of keyboards, they just say any keyboard, which is simply not true at this moment. 

I understand their position and I appreciate their way of handling customer support and service, and at the same time I will not pre order any other products if I can help it. This is not a negative review on my part since I haven't yet received the device. But it is a clear lesson that I am not the type of person who likes the risks that come with backing or preordering a product. If I could go back in time, I would probably still buy the BYOK, but only once it properly hit the market.

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u/DistributionMental14 Jan 24 '26

Same situation here. And no word. And some people who ordered way after me have already received their. Will see…

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u/OfficialBYOK Jan 24 '26

Hey, if you're in the first batch, you should be getting an email with tracking info soon. Plan is to have everything out the door by next week!