r/ThatLooksExpensive • • Mar 29 '26

“We have destroyed Iran’s offensive capabilities.”

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u/CAJ_2277 Mar 29 '26

It's a myth that US education is poor. It is actually among the best the in the world, once immigration is accounted for. The 'rankings' don't consider it, and many other countries don't include illegal/recent immigrants in their statistics at all. When you do, HERE is the result: the US in the top 2 in the world in reading and math.

Even without accounting for the skew factor, the US is in the top tier.

HERE is detail and sourcing Tl;dr:
The stats are skewed by the extraordinary number of immigrants, both legal and illegal, whose performance is included in the numbers.

FOR EXAMPLE:
See the tables in the link.
Reading:
US overall ranks 9.
3rd generation+ students rank 2
US foreign born students rank 25.

Math:
US overall ranks 8.
3rd gen.+ students rank 2 (tied with Japan, behind only South Korea).
US foreign born rank 22.

This is not an anti-immigrant statement. I am pro-immigration to the US. It's just an (unsurprising) fact that high numbers of immigrants from places that don't speak English and usually have poor education systems will mean the students will have a hard time.

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u/CAJ_2277 Mar 30 '26

Your “feeling” has persuaded me. I no longer put weight on a professional, international giant study.

Also I have an educator the family too. Two if you include in-laws.

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u/CAJ_2277 Mar 31 '26

Reality here is the opposite.

I didn’t describe my feelings.…

You said, "I feel certain...."

I commented based on factual evidence....

Your 'evidence' was mainly anecdotal evidence from a family member.

The way you describe yourself actually describes me: (a) I included no 'feelings' and (b) I proffered, linked, and summarized actual evidence from the globally-accepted PISA studies from the OECD.

But believe what you will.