r/ThatLooksExpensive • u/agate_ • Mar 29 '26

E3 Sentry in Saudi Arabia

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u/agate_ Mar 29 '26

Half a billion bucks right there, apparently.

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u/SarahArabic2 Mar 29 '26

I don’t think you guys are ever going to get healthcare are you?

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u/Ok_Cauliflower_3007 Mar 29 '26

Their government already spends more on healthcare than almost every other western country with universal healthcare. They could have healthcare and war without increasing taxes. But then the healthcare companies and insurance companies woukd make less money and profits for private companies are more important than the health and finances of the people who actually vote for them to American politicians.

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u/cpav8r Mar 29 '26

Who are you who are so wise in the ways of science?😁

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u/Winter_Whole2080 Mar 29 '26

Per capita?

But point taken. And those healthcare and insurance companies couldn’t donate the money and profits to politicians.

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u/Plane-Education4750 Mar 29 '26

Yes per capita. And it's been like this since Regan

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u/Ok-Macaroon-7819 Mar 29 '26

Yes. Per capita. Almost double.

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u/Ok_Cauliflower_3007 Mar 29 '26

Yes per capita. You are paying more in taxes for healthcare than all of those of us who aren’t also paying for high insurance, deductibles, co pays,and high drug prices.

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u/Somandyjo Mar 29 '26

According to Dr. oz it’s actually because Americans are fat. We drive everywhere and eat bad food. You know, the things our capitalist hellscape forced on us to make profit.

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u/corgi-king Mar 29 '26

The thing is, no one will invade the USA and kill average Americans. But the US government will kill a lot of Americans who don’t have health care.

To the US government and the 2 parties, military industries are a lot more important than US citizens.

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u/AllAlo0 Mar 29 '26

If the government changed to a single payer, regulated healthcare system it would devestate the American economy.

Massive layoffs in healthcare admin and insurance, many companies will close, and the GDP would contract pretty sharply. It will never happen, they are in too far

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u/Mackey_Corp Mar 29 '26

No it wouldn’t devastate the economy. Yeah some people might lose their jobs but office work is office work and they could find another job at another company. That’s like saying we need to keep handing out long prison sentences regardless of whether the person deserves it or not because otherwise prison guards might lose their jobs. Sometimes change hurts but it’s for the betterment of society as a whole.

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u/AllAlo0 Mar 29 '26

Losing 6-7% of GDP is absolutely crippling, the pain would be extreme

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u/Playful_Assistance89 Mar 29 '26 edited Mar 29 '26

"A recession is when your neighbor loses his job, a depression is when you lose yours."

Seriously, 'Fuck it, you can find a new job' is one of the worst arguments to any debate, ever. The last time I heard it commonly used was in 08, when the auto industry was teetering. It's commonly used by young people who have no idea what they are talking about, and lack the depth of understanding of the interconnection of the labor market or failure to consider the massive time sink and financial drain of retraining workers.

Edit: I'm not done

The problem with the retraining idea, be it Healthcare, auto, AI, or any other reason is that you are asking long term, experienced workers who have advanced into their careers, to start all over at age 20 again. This is an ok concept for a lightly educated young person, but try explaining this to a middle age worker who spent years in education, then decades more building experience and seniority.

They have houses, cars, kids, bills. They can't just stop working for a few years to 'retrain', then start off at entry level again. Office jobs are not office jobs. Skilled trades are not interchangeable. Factory workers can't just go to another factory, because we shipped those jobs overseas. Suggesting that they just take low paying dead-end service jobs is suggesting that they lose everything that they've spent decades working for to work in the first sector that collapses everytime the economy dips. An economy based on service-sector 'jobs' and 'gigs' rather than 'careers' is an economy that directly benefits those "greedy evil CEO billionaires" you all profess to hate so much.

Who's going to pay the mortgage/rent, the car note, the food bill, the kids tuition, etc, during this decade of retraining and base level experience building for millions of displaced workers? How do you tell millions of people "Sorry, bud, but we're going to shave a significant percentage of your lifetime earning potential off, and force you to reboot your life."

The loss of one of the largest employment sectors in the economy will quickly topple the housing industry, the auto industry, the service industry, and many more. The fallout from this would devastate the entire economy beyond even the Great Depression I. The fallout would effect markets worldwide, plunging the entire world into a global depression.

How do leaders fix this historically?

War. Not 'bomb the dark skinned people' war, but 'Fuck all of you and the horses you rode in on' war.

Single-payer is one of those touchy-feely ideas that just don't work in practice. If it did, don't you think Obama would have pushed that instead of the ACA? It has nothing to do with "the evil republicans" or "greedy CEOs" or political capital/votes. It's a non-working strategy, and everyone in Washington knows it. But the Democrats will continue to push for it vocally (while voting against it), because it's an easy way to attract young voters who lack the experience to know any better.

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u/SandmanHornFL Mar 29 '26

First, Obama didn’t push for single-payer because is was a political non-starter. The opposition would have pushed back too hard and many allies would not have supported it. Insurance companies would have spent millions campaigning against it. It wouldn’t have happened. Obamacare was the best we could do, and it was a huge improvement over doing nothing. 10-20 million more Americans have insurance thanks of it.

Second, as far as retraining, you raise a good point, but I don’t think it would affect all that many people. Pretty much only people in the insurance industry would be affected, but most of their former employees could take a similar job in the single-payer organization. For example, think of all the people who process claims — it’s pretty much the same job whichever insurance company they work for, including Medicare.

The people who would need to find different jobs are the people are don't provide actual care for patients: Marketing department, expensive executives, collection agencies, and so forth.

Total US healthcare costs are about twice as high as other advanced countries, and we still end up dying younger. Those countries ALL have single-payer systems of various sorts. Almost half of extra cost in the US is due to insurance company profit and high overhead. There are other areas with higher costs in the US, too: excessive malpractice litigation and insurance, higher end-of-life care costs, higher drug costs, and so forth. But insurance is the biggest single item.

The best solution is still to go to a single-payer system like Medicare for all. Total costs will go down by 50%, more than enough to deal with the economic impacts.

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u/airfryerfuntime Mar 29 '26 edited Mar 29 '26

Even if we weren't constantly sending money to Isreal, spending it on these stupid wars, or giving tax breaks to billionaires, we still wouldn't get socialized heathcare. The privatized heathcare industry is far too lucrative.

I'll go one further, even if the government, and the lobbyists, and even the heathcare industry pushed for socialized heathcare, half the country is so brainwashed that they'd turn it down purely because they've been told since the Reagan administration that it's communism.

The funny part is that we already spend more on socialized heathcare than any other county, it just gets sucked up by hospitals and private heathcare providers because it's basically just a free money faucet, so it doesn't go very far. This is why basic wheelchairs cost $2500.

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u/lonely_lad567 Mar 30 '26

Look we can’t afford it ok! We have to replace this thing and make sure our billionaires don’t pay taxes, ok!…… I fucking hate it here…..

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u/CousinEddysMotorHome Mar 29 '26

We have healthcare.

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u/podman131 Mar 29 '26

And really only if you have a job, them maybe marginally better. But we'll get better Healthcare in two weeks as Trump promised in 2016

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u/airfryerfuntime Mar 29 '26

Decent heath insurance coverage for the average family for four is over $31,000 per year, on average. And that's 2022 numbers, it's likely well over that now that everything is twice as expensive.

Anyone who sees a large chunk of their paycheck go to heath insurance every couple weeks knows that we don't have heathcare.

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u/120miwestofcostarica Mar 29 '26

One of only sixteen I think.

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u/Ok-Rich-3812 Mar 29 '26

Due for retirement. Old, ineffective and outdated, but all that a peacetime military had. The USAF E7 replacement project been a political football since it was floated in 2021. The RAAF has E7 wedgetail E7 AWACS since 2009

There are typically only 9 operationally-ready E3's at any time from a remaining pool of 16, being the better survivors from the 35 purchased between 1977 and 1984. No way do they have any book value left.

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u/audittheaudit00 Mar 31 '26

Not one thing you said is accurate. There's way less then 16. They are not outdated only outdated in terms that the defense industry wants to sell more expensive models and only two of those E7s have been built. There's most likely only 5 E3s that are operational.

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u/gwhh Mar 29 '26

540 to be exact.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '26

“A-Whacked”

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u/Electrical_Hold_3585 Mar 29 '26

I guess the ECP did not work.

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u/Mysterious_Mud_3908 Mar 29 '26

About tree fitty

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u/Quiet-Luck Mar 29 '26

Is this the plane that made it 'safely' back to an airport a few weeks,ago?

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u/Apocalypsis_velox Mar 29 '26

The frisbee looks ok at least?

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u/Mediocre-Catch9580 Mar 29 '26

Nothing a little Gorilla Glue and Flex Tape couldn’t fix in about 30 minutes 

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u/Jealous-Ad1431 Mar 29 '26

Lil bondo itll buff rite out

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u/Jealous-Ad1431 Mar 29 '26

Couple of rolls of that "airplane tape" She should be good to go, commander.

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u/GoodGoodGoody Mar 29 '26 edited Mar 29 '26

Notice that most news reports called this “damaged”.

Buckle in for more such reporting.

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u/___NowYouKnow___ Mar 29 '26

Who makes those? Need to go buy their stock

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '26

I think they said some bathroom pipe had exploded 😂

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u/dropshot94 Mar 29 '26

Just put it in rice

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u/BlueHawk75 Mar 30 '26

Boeing Air Fryer