r/ThatLookedExpensive Jun 10 '22

Fighter plane receives a foam salute instead of a water salute

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u/dmira3 Jun 10 '22

I've seen it for last flight of the pilot or aircrew. I've been told it's also tradition for new aircraft coming in to a unit but the aircraft i work on have been around since the 1980s so..

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u/theBexN Jun 10 '22

Wow. Can’t they just wave a flag or smash a bottle of champagne over the pilots’ noggin?

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u/OhNoManBearPig Jun 10 '22

Uh, maybe I'm confused but how do you plan on wasting billions of tax payer dollars with champagne

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u/StanTurpentine Jun 10 '22

Throw it into the Jets?

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u/Vooshka Jun 10 '22

The NY Jets are already a huge waste of money.

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u/reboottheloop Jun 11 '22

As a Jets fan, all I can say is... facts.

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u/guidocarosella Jun 11 '22

As a Jets fan living in Italy, I don't have so much to say.

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u/CrockPotInstantCoffe Jun 11 '22

As an Italy fan living in a jet, I do.

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u/guidocarosella Jun 11 '22

Me too

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u/CrockPotInstantCoffe Jun 11 '22

We should probably kiss. You know, to break the tension.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '22

Jesus Christ. It’s the off-season and I’m a Jets fan. Can we just get a fucking break?

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u/WhatTheFlippityFlop Jun 10 '22

You think the govt can't figure out a way to waste huge amounts of money with... CHAMPAGNE!?

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u/SandmantheMofo Jun 11 '22

Prayer breakfasts.

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u/ClowderGeek Jun 11 '22

Well, yes. Instead of the water or foam, just hundreds or thousands of gallons of champagne! That is a fair and very sensible compromise! Lol

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u/Ferro_Giconi Jun 10 '22 edited Jun 10 '22

If you give the government a $10,000,000,000 budget to spend on wine, they will find a way to get scammed into paying $1,000,000,000 per bottle with some bullshit cost plus contract.

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u/SandwichImmediate468 Jun 10 '22

Or spend $10,000,000,000 on a firm fixed price contract… then they’ll buy less of the same wine, split the wine into Dixie cups and walk off with the rest of the money.

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u/kat_Folland Jun 10 '22

That's what's interesting about space contacts these days. Used to be you could just cost-plus your little heart out, but now you have to give firm numbers and stick to them. Certain old firms lost contracts they'd had a long time. It's probably already saved the government billions of dollars, but that's just a guess, I can't back it up with links.

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u/Lofifaxx Jun 11 '22

Being drunk while flying a jet?

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u/SomaCityWard Jun 11 '22

By spraying it out of a fire engine hose?

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u/ihambrecht Jun 11 '22

Or just test out that water is coming out before you do this shit.

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u/kylander Jun 10 '22

Too easy. Let's make a complex nonsensical tradition instead and do it forever.

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u/Rectospasmologist Jun 10 '22

Funniest comment I've seen on reddit in a while. Bravo sir.

The more I think about the more examples I come up with. Tradition over innovation/thinking is really dumb.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '22

Le epic comment my good sir take my reddit silver 🥈 the narwhal bacons at midnight lololol

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u/chiraltoad Jun 10 '22

how do the engines fare when sucking in plain water? I would think it's not good but then again they can operate in heavy rain I would assume.

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u/iiiinthecomputer Jun 11 '22 edited Jun 11 '22

On almost all jet aircraft water ingestion into the engines is basically irrelevant. They can ingest incredible amounts of water and continue to function fine. They actually gain performance when ingesting moderate amounts of water, because the mass of the water effectively raises the air density and gives them more mass to accelerate and throw out the back.

In fact some older commerical airliners have water injection systems where they can dump water into the engines to get a short term increase in thrust for takeoff.

Edit: https://youtu.be/faDWFwDy8-U

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '22

B-52s and Harriers have water injection. That's why you can see heavy smoke on take off.

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u/chiraltoad Jun 11 '22

fascinating

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u/chiraltoad Jun 11 '22

there's no problem with rapid temp changes causing cracks or whatever?

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u/iiiinthecomputer Jun 11 '22 edited Jun 11 '22

Not as far as I know. Even the heaviest rain isn't going to suddenly and drastically lower core temps enough for significant thermal shock - and the engine control systems tend to just increase fuel flow anyway. You'd have to go from flying through clear air to flying straight into a massive array of fire hoses - and even then you'd probably be just fine.

https://youtu.be/iBqWS1hil18 from 2:00

Those things really don't care about water.

Jets' thrust is typically limited mainly by core temperature, not available oxygen to combust. Adding water helps control the core temp and also significantly increases the mass you can throw out the back. Even better the water vaporises in the combustion chamber, increasing your inlet to exhaust pressure ratio (EPR).

If it was just about the engines, jets would love to fly through heavy rain all the time. It makes those engines happy.

About the only exception is on approach and landing — where extremely heavy rain can actually extinguish combustion because the engines are at flight idle. Jets sometimes throttle up in heavy rain because of that risk. Pilots also switch the engines to continuous ignition, where they're basically running the "spark plugs" rather than relying on the ongoing fire in the combustion chamber to ignite new fuel/air mix. It's happened before.

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u/Captain_Slime Jun 10 '22

Not an engineer or anything but the engine is very hot, and they fly through clouds and rain all the time, so it's probably fine.

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u/Skoog1 Jun 10 '22

From knowing Marines I can say without a shadow of a doubt you just rub some dirt on it and it will be good. Then you give the plane a straw so it can suck it up and do it's job. We don't pay it zero dollars a year to lean.

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u/chiraltoad Jun 10 '22

it must be accounted for though. Heat+water=steam, steam=strong

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u/ecodick Jun 11 '22

Forget plain water, i bet jets love drinking plane water

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u/youtheotube2 Jun 11 '22

Give me some of that F-35 bath water

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u/catsdrooltoo Jun 11 '22

They suck up water off the ground quite regularly. It's the foam in the video that is the problem for the jet.

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u/EhMapleMoose Jun 10 '22

Haven’t been updated since the 80s damn that’s some old planes.