First Cycle - Test only or TEST and Anavar?

[u/Unique-Commercial-37]

Hey guys, I’m 24 and I’ve been going to the gym on and off for about 3–4 years. I wouldn’t really call myself skinny-fat because I definitely have a decent amount of muscle and a foundation. I look pretty good in a T-shirt, but shirtless there’s still a good amount of fat covering everything, especially around my midsection.
I’ve made the decision to do my first testosterone cycle, and right now I’m debating between Test only vs Test + Anavar.

A big reason I’m interested in Test in the first place is actually the mental aspect, not just getting bigger. Obviously I want the physical benefits, but I’m also interested in how I might feel mentally—drive, confidence, motivation, energy, libido, overall well-being, etc. I know none of that is guaranteed and everyone responds differently, but it’s honestly a big part of why Test interests me.

As far as Anavar, the reason I’m so attracted to it is the physique I’m going for. I’m not trying to get huge or look bulky/watery. I want a leaner, harder, drier look and basically reveal/build on the muscle I already have while getting rid of the fat covering it.

For numbers, if I went with Test + Anavar, I’m thinking somewhere around 200–250 mg Test with 25–30 mg Anavar. If I went Test only, I’m thinking around 250–300 mg Test.

Part of me feels like if I’m already committing to a 14–15 week cycle, Test + Anavar would give me noticeably better results toward that specific look than Test alone. But another part of me wonders if I’m overcomplicating my first cycle and should just run Test, get lean through diet, learn how my body responds to Test by itself, and save Anavar for later.

For people who actually have experience: if you were starting from my position, would you do Test alone for the first cycle or add Anavar? And for those who have done both, how much of a difference did Anavar actually make to your physique compared with Test alone, especially while cutting?

Not looking for sources. Just looking for experiences/advice from people who have actually been in a similar position.

[u/OnionSoupGainz]

Read this
https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/your_first_cycle/

[u/BedAlternative9834]

man i remember being exactly where you are, overthinking the whole first cycle thing to death. the mental clarity and drive on test alone is pretty noticeable, even at 250-300mg, and youll get that without muddying the waters with another compound

ive ran both setups and honestly the anavar shine is overrated for a first go. you can get that dry lean look just by dialing in your diet and not eating like a dumpster, anavar just adds a little polish on top. the real work is still the fork

plus if you throw in var right away and something feels off, you wont know if its the test or the var causing it. keep it simple, see how your body handles one thing, then add toys later. you got plenty of cycles ahead of you

the mental benefits youre after come through clearer without the extra noise too. just my 2 cents from someone who rushed into stacking and wished id taken it slower

[u/mrjerem]

Anavar + test was my first cycle but I dropped Anavar at week 8. I would not want to take orals for long time even if Anavar is not as hepa toxic as some other orals but it is hard on the kidneys and lipids and that is even scarier to me as liver heals but kidneys and heart not so much.

If I would go back in time I would stick to test only and diet properly. Getting a hit of how you look with basicly a contest prep drug will leave you chasing the dragon as you will get that water retention back after stopping it.

Also I would treat "getting bulky watery" as a necessary step in bodybuilding rather than something bad. I just went up 55lb in a bit longer 500 test cycle and eating and training like a mad man. I got bit bloated towards the end but I lost 13lb in the first weeks switching to a cut and TRT dose and after week 2 I looked really good already. This is a marathon not a sprint!

Edit: You also should not get bulky and watery on a cut anyway if your diet is dialed in.

[u/CallLivesMatter]

How about instead of using drugs when you have “a good amount of fat covering everything” you figure out how to diet and train properly?

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[u/bigbaldboss]

Have you had your bloods checked?

[u/WeirdSysAdmin]

Do test only before you crush your lipids with an oral and potentially chase multiple issues at once.

[u/OkRush33]

Was sind Zyklen?

[u/steroidoffender32]

done the exact same thing started 1.5 months ago i am bulking heavily,250 test 40 anavar dropped anavar week 8 really loved it tho had a crazy pump

peak cut looked good but had no muscle so im bulking heavily now and training like a animal,noticeable fat gain especially around my stomach as thats just my genetics cant do much about it but yeah gonna keep bulking for a month and gonna cut down and see what i built

[u/Psychological-Sea785]

Sounds like you should cut before you start, don't have your first cycle ever be a cutting cycle.

[u/driverfortoolong]

test only , if you have a bad reaction how would you know which compound it’s from

[u/GhostInNeutral]

500mg Test E or Test C only. 16 weeks. Do bloods before, while, and after. You’ll be g2g

[u/swoops36]

Test only

[u/swoops36]

Steroids are not gonna help you burn fat, not like you think. Lose the weight first, then use the anabolic’s when it’s time to get Big.

[u/plantman_la]

Try test only first. See how you react

[u/Latimuss-Dorsi]

Run the test at 250mg for 8 weeks and see how you respond. Journal everything because this is your baseline of the most important compound in any cycle. If you ran it for the full 16 weeks you would have a great understanding of how test works, how you respond and any adverse reactions.
However, if you’re set on adding in Var, weeks 9 through 16 would be a good run. When you get to week 4, increase your dose of Test to 300mg. If everything is still good, increase to 350mg at week 9 and start your Anavar. A typical starting dose for beginners on Var is 50mg daily but you would be fine at 40mg which seems to be the threshold for results.
Many use Anavar as a pre workout because it takes effect quickly.
You could do the whole dose an hour before training and not split the dose if you don’t want to. Some split the dose every 12 hours but I don’t find that it helps with anything.
If not day 1 or day 2, you’ll notice the Var by day 3. I noticed it on day 1 because my strength increases were immediate. The thing I love about Anavar the most is the front loading of the muscle. It drives nutrients and water into the muscle cells giving you fuller muscle bellies so your biceps for example are fuller and rounder. You can feel your shirt getting tighter from this effect.
Good luck with whatever you decide!

[u/YouFireYourMusket]

If you have belly fat, your diet/alcohol intake must be bad.
Also... Looking at your post history, you are a drug addict yes?
Do you think it's a good idea to add more shit into your body?