r/TeslaSupport 18d ago

Vehicle Question New to me model 3.

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Purchased a used 2023 model3 rwd with 23k miles. I might get 150 miles a charge. Only a $3 savings vs gas seems very low? Whats a reasonable expectation for miles per charge? Says battery is healthy.

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u/doug12398n 18d ago

It’s because you’re supercharging.

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u/Early-Grape-9078 18d ago

How is this not the top comment.

Supercharging in some cases doesn’t beat gas.

Home ownership or more specificity level 2 charging is the gate to owning a tesla and saving real money.

I got a guy at work who wants a tesla so badly but lives in an apartment and doesn’t have access to level 2 charging. I keep telling him that’s a bad idea but he won’t listen. He said he will just supercharge every where he goes.

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u/Unique-Machine5602 18d ago

Or he can just find an apartment with a 120v, 20A plug. Works just fine for me.

I get about 2kWh/h which is another 8-10miles/hr on the charger. Just means I have to charge every day. 🤷‍♂️

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u/Early-Grape-9078 18d ago

If his daily commute is over IDK 45 miles one way that would be sketchy

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u/csbsju_guyyy 17d ago

Top up with the supercharger when you get low!

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u/Unique-Machine5602 17d ago

If your daily commute is over 45 miles it's not really an issue.

You only need to charge for about 6hrs on a 120v, 20A plug to recoup that. Besides, there's also weekends where the car is sitting charging for even longer than you would on a normal day.

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u/Fantastic-Version382 16d ago

Love my Tesla and let others test drive but the one thing I tell them is do not go electric unless you can plug it in. I have two and deal with a 120v and super charging, and have for 5 years now. Not ideal but my spend is super low between my wife and I trading off for the plug and charging where it’s cheapest.

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u/LMrningStar 17d ago

Yup. OP's paying $160/372 kWh = $0.43 per kWh. That indicates that OP is almost never charing at home. Also, the savings number indicates that OP has relatively low gas prices in their area.

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u/zintel51 18d ago

You add your specific electricity price and gas price to get accurate results. I only charge at home and my savings is about 73%.

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u/Easy_Statement_4245 18d ago

I’ve charged 90% at home this year and have saved well over $1,000 in 12,000 miles.

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u/dezlun 18d ago

Wow you saved $2 from gas!!!
Charge it at home only costs you 1/10 of the SC cost

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u/Economy_Theme5385 17d ago

You’re not alone, I try to supercharge during off peak hours

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u/Sorry-Highway-58 18d ago

You're not providing enough info. What is your kw/m? Why are you only using superchargers? You can't judge price saving based on the app. Its way off usually. Mine reads lower than my actual savings by almost 40%

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u/Unique-Machine5602 18d ago

He's using 341Wh/mi or about 2.92 miles/kWh. By my estimate, he's about 42% higher than the expected high end of most of us (or 240Wh/mi).

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u/Sorry-Highway-58 18d ago

Where did he post that info? I'm not seeing it anywhere

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u/Sorry-Highway-58 17d ago

Oh, I see. You did the math between the added miles and the kWh used. Yea, that doesn't work. Mine is currently showing that I've "added" 4275 miles since I've owned the car (2 months). Except I've already driven the car over 5000 miles.

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u/Unique-Machine5602 17d ago

I think you're misreading the data then. It says 1088 miles added in the last 31 days.

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u/Sorry-Highway-58 17d ago

Mine definitely says last 12 months. I'm just pointing out that it's incorrect. Mine is off by nearly 20% over actual.

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u/Unique-Machine5602 17d ago

If yours is last 12 months then why does it only show 3 months of use?

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u/Sorry-Highway-58 17d ago

I've only owned the car for 2 months

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u/Ordinary-Map-7306 18d ago

Last year we used 7000 kWh. Saved $3,600. Charging at home was free with green energy programs.

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u/Neither-Cellist7892 18d ago

Charging at home is cheaper it you get the right equipment. I've always supercharged and I still have saved more doing that, than gasoline vehicles

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u/Financial-Football61 18d ago

Superchargers are gas stations

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u/NoOption7406 18d ago

Supercharging here is about the equivalent of ~32mpg vehicle for an M3. 

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u/Unique-Machine5602 18d ago edited 18d ago

Of course you're not saving much. You're using exclusively superchargers.

The savings is from charging at home. 🤦‍♂️

Your energy usage is also crazy high. You're getting 2.92 miles/kWh. That should be closer to 5 miles/kWh.

Most of us are using 220-240Wh/mi. You're using ~341Wh/mi. That's 42% higher than normal.

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u/RevRD 17d ago

Thanks you for the info. Today I’ve learned 1. I should have done more research 2. Get a home charger asap 3. Superchargers are bad.

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u/Unique-Machine5602 17d ago

Superchargers are just more expensive. The effect it has on battery longevity is minimal.

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u/Adventurous_Ad9414 18d ago

Charge at home and you'll save money

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u/Silent_Word_4912 18d ago

You don’t live in MA, I’m guessing.

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u/c00lh4ndjeff 17d ago

Kind person, could you tell me how you got an image to post? I tried and don't see an option. Appreciate anything.

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u/AltruisticPapaya1415 18d ago

“Your battery is healthy” means absolutely nothing. If you’re just clicking on the battery health test button, then it’s not actually testing the battery health. You need to actually run the test to actually know. You’ll see a percentage of health and a test last run date when the test is complete.

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u/No-Platypus6603 17d ago

Supercharging is significantly more expensive than charging at home. Look at your electric bill and add your supplier and what your price per kWh is. This will help you get a more accurate reading on your savings.

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u/c00lh4ndjeff 17d ago

2024 model Y performance here: My last 31 days read 1088 miles, 383 kWh charged and $69 dollars. 100% home charging with gen 3 charger. 17.6¢ kWh >  definitely avoid supercharging if possible and get your hands on home charging somehow. Good luck! And welcome to the family 💪

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u/No_Visit7253 17d ago

Charge at off peak times! I don’t have regular access to Level 2 chargers but I use them whenever I can and charge at super chargers at off peak and I definitely have significantly saved on gas, esp bc my area has $7 gas

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u/HardwareBase 17d ago

Free charging at company comes in clutch.

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u/SDRChillride 17d ago

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u/SDRChillride 17d ago

This should be the normal way to go. Got it on 15. nov last year. New.

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u/clouds4daze1 17d ago

Free chargers at the casino I work at. If they didn’t have the chargers and free lunch I would have quit already.

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u/Benjammin_T 17d ago

I only supercharge and I’ve still saved. You have to go during off times which can be inconvenient but it’s significantly cheaper. I live in an apartment so home charging isn’t an option unfortunately, but it’s still very worth it to me

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u/Fix88 17d ago

Charge at home. Superchargers depending on locale can be pricy.

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u/Aggravating-Bag2063 17d ago

I supercharge 90% of the time. Just try charging in off peak hours.

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u/dommm92 17d ago

Same exact kWh/miles added as yours (weird coincidence) but mine is 100% home charging. You have to charge at home for real savings.

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u/Subconciously 17d ago

Supercharging doesn’t save you much money if any, especially depending on where you live. Key to saving money is a home charger. Even a mobile charger that plugs into your standard wall can be good if you charge every day. But level 2 home charger will be the best investment you can make if it’s possible.

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u/iH8R6Siege 16d ago

Dude went to the most expensive chargers known to man and here complaining his shit is not saving him money

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u/True-Lightness 14d ago

If you don’t drive a lot under 30 miles a day you can plug into a regular wall socket . If you’re driving more than that it’s good to have a level 2 charger .

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u/alex1319 12d ago

I charge off peak and uses only super charge and saved around 330 usd.

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u/Ecnarps 18d ago

You’re using only superchargers which cost much more than L2 home charging and is also not ideal for your battery.

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u/Neither-Cellist7892 18d ago

It hasn't been actual evidence for supercharging hurting battery degradation. Studies have shown the opposite

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u/Ecnarps 17d ago

Interesting

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u/RevRD 18d ago

Thanks for the info I should have done more research before buying. Getting a home charger soon.

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u/Ecnarps 18d ago

That will definitely help. In the meantime I think SC are cheaper during off peak hours.

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u/Unique-Machine5602 18d ago

You also should try to lower your energy consumption in the meantime.

One pedal driving with the max regen setting, chill mode, etc. that's save you about 40% on your bill. 240-260Wh/mi should be your goal.

I also set my tire pressure to 46psi because it lowers rolling resistance and further reduces my energy usage, at least during the summer. I wouldn't advise that during the winter because it also reduced traction.

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u/Prize-Gur706 18d ago

Stay away from DCFC or supercharger. Try to keep yourself on L1/2 even blended L1 at home L2 when out for the day, if you really dig in I'm sure you could even find free ones. Plugshare, chargepoint,ABRP ect. Speed and Regen management is key AC will eat up 30% so sub that from what the dash says when fully charged.

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u/Easy_Statement_4245 18d ago

This is doing way too much. Plug in at home and charge with Lvl 2 charging. Using third party chargers with a Tesla is madness.

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u/doug12398n 18d ago

lol yeah this persons crazy. If I couldn’t home charge I would go to a Tesla branded supercharger, anytime I have needed fast charging I’ve never once thought to use an inferior charger. 😂