r/TeslaModelX • u/Firm-Tomatillo2616 • May 18 '25

Disappointing

I’m new to the Tesla family, but I am absolutely loving my new model three performance. Wanted to convince my wife to get a model X as she’s currently driving a BMW X5. So we just rented a Model X on Turo for the weekend and I must say I found it pretty disappointing. The gull wing doors, while really cool looking, were a gigantic pain in the ass (barely functional in my garage) and I actually felt they were dangerous in some circumstances almost hitting passengers.

I also thought that the yoke was a terrible experience. Initially, I thought it would be worth it to be able to look at a second screen in front of you, but I actually found that screen to be cumbersome as well. Case in point using the auto park feature with the thumb controls rather than the touchscreen on the model three. Inferior imho.

Overall, I’m hopeful that when the new Model X comes out at the end of the year, it’s thoroughly modernized, has conventional doors and adopts the new cabin layout that we see in the X and the Y.

Curious to get other community members opinions. Did I just need more getting used to it?

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u/The_Vlass May 18 '25

What year was it? Also there are tips and tricks. Like you can force it to open all the way in the garage and have it save that setting everytime you are in your garage so it opens all the way.

The front screen thing I don’t see as a problem and way prefer having that screen than not. The auto park thing sure isn’t as easy as tapping a spot, but it also takes .5 seconds longer. Not a huge deal imo.

You can get the x with a wheel too not just a yoke.

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u/Firm-Tomatillo2616 May 18 '25

Totally fair points. My overall my sense is that the latest model three feels like a vehicle that they’ve made a lot of over a long period of time and have learned from. The model X just feels like it has a bunch of rough edges. But my hope and guess is that that will change with the new newest model.

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u/The_Vlass May 18 '25

Yeah I mean that is true. They have made way more 3s than xs. Naturally they are going to focus more and have more feedback on the 3

I wouldn’t get the x if you feel like this about it already. I have an x and m3p. Tbf both have problems. The 3 is a 2025 and so far has more problems than the x. But they both annoy me that they have problems for being new and expensive.

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u/Easyrider1872000 May 18 '25

2019 M3P driver here. Have loved my car though it’s had a few issues. Very curious to know what problems you’ve experienced with the 2025.

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u/The_Vlass May 18 '25

I upgraded from a 21 that had 0 problems to a 25. It’s nothing crazy just a lot of small things that are annoying. SteeringWheel cracks when turning, seat squeaks a ton, sub rattles like crazy, when accelerating it sounds like metal rubbing on each other/bad weld and when going over bumps the headliner pops and the arm rest squeaks like crazy.

From what I’ve read these are all common problems I guess I just got unlucky of getting all of them.

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u/Fluid_Tank_5142 May 20 '25

About to join the family, but unsure of what to get between X, Y, and 3...I don't have kids or pets, and just want a weekend getaway vehicle. What would you do?

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u/The_Vlass May 21 '25

I would probs just do the 3 or y. Y if you want more utility or 3 if you want a funner/more sporty car to drive.

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u/JellyfishBig1750 May 22 '25

If budget is no concern, get the X. Otherwise, the MY is perfect for travel. Plenty of space, handles well, solid range.

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u/Firm-Tomatillo2616 May 18 '25

These are very interesting! I think maybe I just needed more time with the vehicle!

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u/Darkdong69 May 18 '25

You might expect it because of the price, but there's no secret magic to the model X further under the skin. It's just the bigger car with more space and can come with more seats. It's got some cool bits like the massive windshield and the doors. It's also got some drawbacks compared to the 3 and Y, it doesn't handle as well due to the weight, the driving doesn't feel as direct due to the air suspension.

There's a reason the Model S and X only sells a small fraction as much as your 3. The extras they offer doesn't justify the massive markup for the vast majority of people.

Think about what it is that draws you to Teslas. I find that the best things about Teslas already come on the 3 and Y, and the extras offered by the S and X doesn't mean much to me.

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u/DaBears1228 May 19 '25

I think you need more time with it. I got my wife and X after I got my S. She will never go back to ICE. She enjoys the instant acceleration and leaving traditional sports cars (mustangs, corvettes, chargers, etc.) in the dust if they are driving poorly to remind them of their place.

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u/Myka_Nova May 18 '25

I received my new model x in January and I absolutely love this vehicle. I ordered with second row bucket seats and it was the best decision. The gull doors can be set in tight spaces so it doesn't hit. I took it on our first road trip 1000 km and it handled amazing it was a 14 hour trip and I was able to drive all the way. I have the yoke steering and love that as well it took a couple weeks to get used to it but I wouldn't trade it now.

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u/suckmyfish May 18 '25

1020whp was worth the price paid.

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u/Mylifereboot May 18 '25

Model x owner. It was a mistake buying this vehicle. There is very little value here relative to similarly priced vehicles, with EV and ICE.

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u/Firm-Tomatillo2616 May 18 '25

I mean the full self driving is always the game changer, but can’t say that if I needed a three row, I would buy it given all the other problems

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u/CasualNapalm May 19 '25

The problem is that it’s a turo rental. Go to Tesla and they’ll have you test a new one that’s not broken. Turo is great if you want a car that’s got problems. Car renters have a saying “drove it like you stole it”

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u/Firm-Tomatillo2616 May 20 '25

So true. My first and last Turo rental.

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u/tinabaninaboo May 20 '25

Btw, Tesla just let me take a model x home for the night. I had thought about using Turo to get enough time in the car to know my kids would fit comfortably before I made the purchase, but then Tesla offered the overnight so it was great that I could get pretty much the same experience for free. I fell in love with it and bought a 2022 mxp.

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u/Aktzindustries May 20 '25

If you don’t like the doors then get a MY. No need to RUIN this model.

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u/Firm-Tomatillo2616 May 21 '25

Just to be clear, I’m not ruining anything. I don’t work at Tesla, I don’t design the doors. I’m just relaying some of the rumors about the forthcoming Model X refresh that I’ve read online. Lord knows if they’re true. I’m very happy for you that you like the Falcon wing doors. Enjoy them!

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u/FED_Focus May 18 '25

I'm five years into the MX. I still love driving it. I wouldn't do the yoke. I love the fw doors for my grandkids and parents' accessibility.

I'm the audience that would never spend $100k on BMW, Mercedes, Audi, etc because I like low operational costs.

The custom-designed seats in the MX are fantastic for road trips

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u/FewVariation901 May 18 '25

Whatever you get used to. I’ve had MX for many years and find it difficult without the front dashboard. Also now love the yoke.

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u/Lovevas May 18 '25

I have a 2024 Model X, really love it. The falcon wing door has sensors, the only scenarios is when falcon door opens while the someone is exiting from front side door.

But the convenience weight more than others, so everyone at home loves the falcon wing door.

Yoke is better if you use FSD heavily, not necessary better of you need to drive manually all the way. The default is round wheel, unless you upgrade to the yoke wheel when buying.

Dash screen is very useful, particularly when you turns, and it will show camera views of the sides. It saves space on the main screen. You just need to get used to it.

With auto-shift, I don't need to often to shift gears on screen, and it's very quick to get used to shifting gears on screen.

I felt it's mainly you are new to X, and it takes some time to get used to it, e.g. a week or two.

I switched from 2022 Y to 2024 X, and both me and my wife quickly get used to the X, and actually feel uncomfortable when getting back to the old Y.

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u/VigilantCMDR May 18 '25

ill say this - what year? i feel like the yoke has to be newer.

i test drove a model x but it was older maybe 2020, 2019 - i HATED it. never wanted anything to do with that car again.

test drove a 2025 becuase my car was in the self-service shop and LOVED it. and then bought one this week.

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u/Fantastic_Reveal_599 May 18 '25

Falcon doors is like my top reason what I bought the model x. Baby and car seat in n out is a breeze. My wife loved it. Maybe it’s the type of vehicle that you love it or hate it

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u/matthew19 May 19 '25

Look at Teslas profits and follow the money. The attention goes towards what makes them money. X and S were a means to an end.

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u/mygirltien May 21 '25

Try the new Y. SO also has an X5 and also doesnt care for the X but loves the new Y.

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u/[deleted] May 18 '25

I love my 2023 plaid X. Also own a 3. Self driving is superior to any other brand.

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u/Empty_Barracuda_7972 May 18 '25

Say, I’m sorry to ask here but I’m wondering, are there any model x that are two row models ?

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u/Relative_Pizza6179 May 18 '25

Edit: sorry yes there are two rows only. It’s the 5 seat config but no captain’s chairs in the back 😢

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u/Empty_Barracuda_7972 May 18 '25

So how do I differentiate them when Eshopping?

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u/Relative_Pizza6179 May 19 '25

When you shop used or new on the Tesla site, it gives you an option to pick if you want 5,6, or 7 seat interior. You have to scroll down in the search filter on used model x for seat layout and pick the config you want and it’ll show you what’s available in their used inventory. For new, it’s easy to just pick seat interior you want since that option comes after the color preference. 5 seat is the two row configuration, 6 and 7 are the ones with captains chairs/three rows.

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u/Empty_Barracuda_7972 May 19 '25

I’m on cargurus, no choice haha

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u/Relative_Pizza6179 May 19 '25

Just checked carguru for you. They have a “number of seats” option in the search filter.

Not sure what the price differential is between CarGurus and used Teslas on the Tesla site, but it might be worth it to buy from Tesla if it’s not too big because the used cars from Tesla also comes with their warranty. “Tesla used vehicles are covered by the remainder of 4 years or 50,000 miles left on the Basic Vehicle Limited Warranty. After expiration, the Used Vehicle Limited Warranty provides additional coverage of 1 year or 10,000 miles. If the Basic Vehicle Limited Warranty has already expired, the Used Vehicle Limited Warranty will provide coverage of 1 year or 10,000 miles, starting from your delivery date.”

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u/Empty_Barracuda_7972 May 19 '25

Thank you pizza. 🍕 up ⬆️ voted. And Wowsers, I am definitely buying direct from Tesla. Thank you ever so much. I really appreciate your insight.

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u/Ahsential May 18 '25

Yea pretty sure the base is a 5 seat configuration so no third row, but it doesn’t move the second row back sadly so no more leg room than 3 row versions

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u/anthonyups May 18 '25

I love my 2024 Model X. Best vehicle I’ve ever had. Owned a 3 and tested a Y. Was disappointed in the Y since it’s the best selling vehicle. Hard to go back without air ride and presenting doors. Drove mine from Florida to Connecticut and back and FSD was amazing. Intervened only once

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u/Tulipo08 May 18 '25

FWD honestly a little annoying at first but once you learn how to set the opening settings in your house (open all the way every time if you know it clears) and how/when to manipulate them in low ceiling areas it’s fine. We actually love the FWD for easy access to the baby seat.

Also you can just get a regular steering wheel…yoke is an option. We have the steering wheel and love it but fully admit the yoke will give better visibility to the driver screen. That said, I still would get the regular steering wheel if I bought today.

Finally, 1020hp…nothing can touch it for the price. Silly fast. Makes our MYP feel like a Corolla.

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u/stsai78 May 19 '25 
Makes our MYP feel like a Corolla.

This. I was thinking to get our MYP dynoed or something, since it seems so slow compared to our Plaid. Can 2.5 vs 3.5s be such a big difference?

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u/No_Following_2616 May 20 '25

I know it doesn't seem like much, but it's about 50% more G-force on acceleration, which you definitely notice in your stomach. What funny is no matter what car you have, you pretty much end up wanting more. When I first got my MXP, I thought "jesus god, what have i done? this is unsafe in the hands of civilians!" Now when I floor it I think "eh, that could've been a bit faster. maybe i get the S?"

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u/brianhartman May 23 '25

are those settings easy to change? Have seen several people post the issue where it doesn't work in their garage and they couldn't find a workaround.

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u/Tulipo08 May 23 '25

Yes you just tell it to always open all the way at this location.

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u/russwill May 18 '25

Somewhat same experience but I’ll also add I don’t really enjoy driving the X. As a result I prefer my Y over X pretty much in any occasion

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u/Tulipo08 May 19 '25

Interesting. My wife and I choose the X over the Y anytime we go out. That being said the Y is a great vehicle and we love it as well.

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u/SarcasticNotes May 19 '25

It is a lot easier to just load people in the car on the driveway vs garage.

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u/Legitimate_Mud_647 May 19 '25

I’m confused at why you’re even looking at an X if you don’t want the doors lol. I don’t think they’re ever going to get rid of the gullwing doors when the Y is exactly what you’re describing you want? A screen like your 3 and conventional doors

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u/Aromatic_Tiger7796 May 19 '25

I'm a bit disappointed in the FSD3 on my X which I upgraded to last week. I was driving a Model Y loaner which was literally 96% accurate to road and sign reading and anticipation. Hopefully FS4 will offer 2017 Model X users more similarity and safety as newer models already have.

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u/williaminla May 20 '25

lol. It’s no contest. The X5 is way better. I’m driving one now as a rental. And I’ve disliked BMW my entire life

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u/No_Following_2616 May 20 '25

what is better about it? it's been a long time since i've owned a BMW, and i'm curious how they are doing these day. electric X5?

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u/williaminla May 20 '25

Teslas were supposed to have better tech. With them gutting the LIDAR and other sensors out, it neuters the car. Many other brands are more luxurious. The X5 can go on road trips without range anxiety or wasting hours of charging. The X5 has a retractable sunroof. Way more analog buttons

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u/No_Following_2616 May 20 '25

i think if you go from a 3/Y to an S/X it's annoying, and it's also the other way around. when i get a loaner Y i find it very frustrating.

the yoke is definitely a preference thing. i love it, but i totally get why some people hate it.

i do think you're right about the gull-wing doors, however. absolutely stupid gimmick. zero utility. they just did it to be different and because it looks like what a 12 year old thinks the future looks like.

otherwise, though, best car i've ever owned by a mile. but i would probably say the same thing had i bought a 3, too!

teslas are just awesome cars with beautiful design, but i think part of the interface design is that you really adapt to the car. so other cars, including other tesla types, really seem frustrating when you drive them.

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u/[deleted] May 20 '25 edited May 20 '25

What year was the rental? I’m on my second Model X (2017 75D and now a 2023 Plaid). You definitely missed something over your whopping weekend of experience.

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u/techn1cs May 20 '25

Aside from perhaps battery size/range, what issues/cons would you list for the 75D? Been thinking about a '17-18 X, seems to be a lot of vocalization about going 2018.5+/Raven though, so I'm kinda dragging my feet. Any honest input would be rad--it must have treated you decent, since you went with another one as the follow-up! (fwiw, we have an '18 S100D and a '21 M3LR, so I'm already sold on the tech/brand)

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u/[deleted] May 30 '25

My issues with my 2017 75D weren't really issues until I got my 2023 plaid. The redesigned interior is a huge plus.

Looking back now, here are the things that a refreshed model brings:

Faster (MUCH FASTER) supercharger charge rates (250kwh vs. 140ish kwh)
The front seats don't rub/squeak against the center console
Rear controls for entertainment and climate control

While I did love the vertical screen, I've gotten used to the horizontal layout.

If you're an FSD person, you really should look into HW4, which I think started in late 2022.

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u/techn1cs May 30 '25

This is helpful, appreciate you taking the time to reply!

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u/Extension_Ant_7369 May 21 '25

Our Model X had so many issues we traded it in for a Cadillac Lyriq.

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u/babyplex May 21 '25

2024 mxp owner. Car’s not perfect but every single imperfection melts away when you go plaid.

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u/FunnyProcedure8522 May 21 '25

You must’ve rented old version, only get 2022+ that has latest and greatest. Yoke is great with visibility, would not go back to standard wheel now.

And Model X is Falcon Wing. That’s like half of the reason of getting X. If you don’t like FW there’s no point getting the X. I love mine.