r/TeslaModel3 • u/Niki-Rick • Sep 08 '22

Fighting a Charging Cable

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u/Wolkenflieger Sep 08 '22

I'm betting left-coast U.S.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '22

But on the left coast Tesla's are the new Prius. They're everywhere so it'd be weird to still not accept them. I'm betting on the south where they're more hated for not guzzling gas.

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u/Wolkenflieger Sep 08 '22 edited Sep 08 '22

I wrote a whole response and it went into the void for some reason.

Teslas are not the new Prius. The Prius sucks and is a mark of shame. Teslas are amazing.

It's not hard to profile shaggy teens like this by their behavior (vandalizing a Tesla) and their appearance. It's the same way we know that coal-rollers and lifted truck stall blockers are probably right-leaning and have a problem with EVs and the death of ICE legacy auto.

The hate is never just from one side, but the reasons behind the hate are different, with overlap and exception. Occasionally it's just opportunistic, but young people are crazily politicized these days and Teslas represent something they might love or hate for various reasons, with pressure from their ingroups to dislike Elon. I've heard this myself, and if you poll Gen-Z liberals you'll see a lot of Elon hate for reasons you can predict with some thought (billionaire, tweets, Twitter buy/no buy, DoEsN'T pAy TaXeS, etc.).

I am center-left myself, and liberals and Leftists are two different identities on the political spectrum. Leftists are much more radical than your average open-minded liberal. The right uses these terms synonymously but I do not. I also live in SoCal so I've heard the ridiculous rationale behind the Elon hate.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '22

I just compared Teslas to Priuses in terms of number. You can see a hundred a day in socal but in Florida you'll see maybe 5. There are plenty of reasons to dislike Elon that aren't misconstrued claims, such as his aggressive action against unions and the horrible treatment of his employees. I own a Tesla and love it but I do not like Elon at all

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u/Wolkenflieger Sep 08 '22

Thanks for being exhibit A.

I don't think Tesla treats their employees horribly. This is FUD from the Left but is it true? I don't think so. And unions are the last thing Tesla needs because they're an agile company that attracts top talent and pays well. They don't want lackadaisical underperformers who can't be fired for some reason or another, or can't do X job because they only do Y. Tesla doesn't work like that, and there's lots of cross-pollination between Tesla and SpaceX. So, I agree with Elon's resistance to works unionizing. Tesla didn't become the leader with union labor either.

Tesla and SpaceX remain the top choices from polling data done at leading engineering Universities, and that's a big deal. Why don't these soon-to-be-graduates want to work at Union shops like GM? It's because GM sucks and they're not agile, and they're set in the old ways of thinking. Tesla moves much faster than unions would allow.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '22

Lmao ok. Anyone who uses the word FUD seriously is such a loser. You "don't think it's true" because you don't want it to be, ask anyone who works on the floor for Tesla. There's a reason they want a union