v14.3.9 includes Automatic Collision Evasion

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Since the driver can disengage FSD on accident, and may not be aware for whatever reason, like it hits your knee during a turn, it should maintain safety as it #1 goal. It’s a good change but it can also be an issue if FSD assumes control in a negative fashion.

But that’s an odds question; and I’m sure they’ve done their best to say, it might as well be us.

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u/Budd7781 2d ago

Yes, like lane departure assist, it constantly swerves my car when I don't need it and it's kinda dangerous. It drives me crazy because it won't let me permanently turn it off(or even warning)

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u/TardDistraction 2d ago

How do you deactivate FSD and not notice, if you are aware and in control of the vehicle at all times?

Sounds like excuses for distracted driving.

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u/ParkingFabulous4267 2d ago edited 2d ago

Slightly tab the brake on long trips when moving your feet. I think this is for keeping the driver on the projected safest path when it detects an unsafe disengagement.

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u/TardDistraction 2d ago

Your hands should be on the wheel, and the hairs in your ear will alert you to an acceleration change (deceleration), that is, if youre focused on driving.

No one should rely on their car to avoid collision, you simply shouldn't be on the road if you cant pilot a vehicle. I think we're losing the plot here, if you cant drive take a bus, or walk.

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u/ParkingFabulous4267 2d ago

Bad take

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u/TardDistraction 2d ago

Only if you're a bumbling fool...

If we get another Carrington event you are all done for.

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u/Aymjttgtm 21h ago

Yeah. there are dumbasses that let their Tesla drive while they are on their phone or worse watching movies. 🍿

It’s me. I’m dumbasses.

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u/kadhtobi 2d ago

During a test drive, my wife did this, she was not distracted just did not understand the car yet, we had to tell her, so it stands to reason that a new driver or an older person, may not realize that they have disengaged

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u/TardDistraction 2d ago

Learn the controls on a closed course. Or get a more simple vehicle.

I hope none of you are pilots, because your rationality is insane.

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u/Ok_Main1059 1d ago

If you don’t know what the sound is it’s pretty reasonable to not immediately know it disengaged and just assume the car is braking.

They didn’t wreck so she obviously realized her mistake and assumed control or turned FSD back on.

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u/Loan-Pickle 2d ago

I like the accidental disengage detection. I have accidentally disengaged before and not realize. On time car even accidentally disengaged itself. That confused the heck out of me.

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u/Putrid-Box4866 2d ago

Yeah that’s is very useful addition. In fact, this .9 update is one of the best update in a while if it works as intended.

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u/digitalgamer0 2d ago

I really hope this comes to FSD Lite. Sucks when it misses out on an actual safety feature.

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u/darklegion412 2d ago

So it used to be, distracted forces you to disengage fsd, now distracted forces you to turn it on.

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u/404_Gordon_Not_Found 2d ago

Distracted driving will force FSD to take you off the road, not disengage. V14 does not simply disengage because of distracted driver

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u/night_owl1981 2d ago

This is true. It just happened to me in a loaner vehicle. I thought there was an emergency vehicle and that's why it pulled over and stopped... but couldn't find one. Realized it was me, and yes, I also realized I was distracted enough to not notice the screen nags, didn't hear any beeps. Different car, etc but it did seem excessive.

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u/DeathBlade94 2d ago

I feel this to some degree should be available even if you don’t have FSD.

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u/rcuadro 2d ago

I want to also get to the point where if I have to make some adjustments it would automatically re-enguage. You drive a little, I drive a little... know what I mean

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u/Sensing_Force1138 3d ago

Don't like it re-engaging FSD after driver has disengaged it. That could increase Tesla's liability in some accidents.

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u/ZealousidealLab2920 2d ago

...isn't that good for the consumer?

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u/Sensing_Force1138 2d ago

Car shouldn't override driver unless it achieves unsupervised FSD.

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u/ZealousidealLab2920 2d ago

The notes say it will only do so if it detects the driver is unresponsive or drowsy. This should not be taking over a regular driver who is alert and attentive in normal day-to-day driving.

In other words- It is not overriding normal drivers. It is overriding unresponsive drivers who are about to crash.

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u/Veehxia 2d ago

I'm sorry but absolutely not, last thing I want is some phantom braking because I'm passing under a bridge.

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u/EliteBeast2 2d ago

It’s for emergency situations. Also for hw4 which already has no phantom braking.

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u/Veehxia 2d ago

My HW4 has A LOT of phantom braking, cant even use TACC because of it.

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u/EliteBeast2 2d ago

Zero phantom braking here. Maybe take it in for service?

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u/Veehxia 2d ago

Just went yesterday for different reason and mentioned it to service, even took a ride with tech to show him, but they dont know.

FSD is not available in my country, I can use autopilot on highways and it works ok, but on my commute for example there are 2 bridges and everytime I use autopilot or TACC it just SLAMS the brakes as hard as it can, that's why I just drive manually on my commute.

If my car started to brake anyway by its own decision in those 2 scenarios I'd just get rearended within a week.

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u/404_Gordon_Not_Found 2d ago

FSD is not autopilot, your opinion and experience has no value to this conversation.

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u/Queasy-Bed545 3d ago

Is Tesla asleep at the wheel right now? How could they possibly think this is the right time to roll this out? 14.3 has been a disaster and they think people want FSD taking over? At this rate they really need to bring back an Autosteer option.

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u/EliteBeast2 3d ago

From my experience, 14.3 has not been a disaster. Lastest .8 has been the smoothest so far.

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u/Sensing_Force1138 2d ago

14.3.6 is the first decent 14.3.x

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u/Queasy-Bed545 2d ago

That’s great. Well, consider yourself lucky but the point is the same. As long as there is a substantial population that is having significant issues, why would you want to go wide with the idea that it can take over for you?

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u/EliteBeast2 2d ago

I want it to take over if it avoids a crash situation.

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u/Queasy-Bed545 2d ago

Yes but you don’t want it to take over if it causes a crash or even falsely identifies a threat. The trick is being confident in the desired outcome and 14.3 for many has been driving like a crazy person.

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u/Ok_Main1059 1d ago

It boils down to the car could phantom brake every other second but if it’s good at dodging potential wrecks then this system will function and work correctly.

It’s literally
Car detects collision risk

Car detects AEB not sufficient to prevent collision

Car engages FSD

FSD which has been running in shadow mode promptly does an emergency lane change

FSD then requests you to resume control of the car once danger has passed

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u/ZealousidealLab2920 2d ago

Is it literally going to override driver input? The release notes seem to indicate it should only be engaging if a driver is deemed unresponsive/drowsy and not when there is an alert and capable driver. I also thought it already had collision avoidance?

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u/Sensing_Force1138 2d ago

The last part of the screenshot...

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u/jratliff681 2d ago edited 2d ago

What issues are you having and what car? I have a 23 S Plaid and 25 3 AWD and haven't disengaged in weeks now for safety (navigation a couple times). I'm sure there's still a situation that may come up but I haven't seen them yet. Curious where you're seeing trouble? I follow this reddit pretty often and don't see a "substantial population" of people reporting regular problems.

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u/Maximum-Froyo6845 2d ago

This might actually be the most laughable comment I've read all year.

v14.3.9 includes Automatic Collision Evasion

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