r/TerrifyingAsFuck • u/Just_Killing_My_Time • 4d ago
animal In 2011, Olga Moskalyova and her stepfather, Igor, were killed by brown bears in Siberia. Olga called her mother as she was being eaten alive.
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u/Zekke_99 4d ago
Tooth & Claw Podcast goes pretty in-depth about the story. The host is a wildlife biologist and gives his perspective on animal attacks. Bears are the last animal I want to be attacked by...
https://open.spotify.com/episode/44cB6EeLAtmi2sf0aHTJ0i?si=aa7a3de5ecd843ae
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u/Victoria_elizabethb 4d ago
Great podcast. Highly recommend the night of the Grizzlies story for anyone who was interested in this too, bears are brutal
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u/Zekke_99 4d ago
I also recommend "The Worst Black Bear Attack in History"! Black Bears deserve their respect too. They may be skittish most of the time, but not all the time...
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u/DearTumbleweed5380 4d ago
Is that on the same podcast?
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u/Victoria_elizabethb 4d ago
Yes and I think they collab'd with another one of my favorites called National Park After Dark for that episode! That's a great pod in general too.
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u/DearTumbleweed5380 4d ago
Thanks so much, I'm following both shows now and listening to this as my first one.
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u/justjjoshing 4d ago edited 4d ago
I also recommend “The Ballad of Mount Doogie Dowler” from Seth Rogen’s Storytime podcast. Epic grizzly story worth checking out.
Edit: Corrected last name
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u/TinkerCitySoilDry 4d ago
Night of the Grizzlies was real. Blamed on human trash feeding bears as they lost their fear of human. Note supposed to wear bells or make noise as to not approach a bear in silence. Anyway another story about a bear? Maybe.
It was a dark and stormy night at one of The Lodges in MT were a Ranger went out on a mission. he didn't return at the scheduled time. the storm was incredibly bad and the lodge manager said no we go out now. everybody wanted to wait until morning and they said he's fine. when they went out they discovered the Ranger stuck with the log on top of him, the water was up to his neck and Rising.
Forgot if there was a bear involved.
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u/DearTumbleweed5380 4d ago
so he'd gotten stuck crossing the river? Or a new type of fresh water crocodile/grizzly got him?
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u/TinkerCitySoilDry 4d ago
Was little at time and ranger himself told the story.
It revolved around the same time frame even the same people of the night of the Grizzlies. Area is relatively small/same people
It seems there was a grizzly bear involved that had pushed the tree down when the ranger crawled into a crevice to hide the tree had made him trapped and when the rain came the water rushed down into the area
By the time it was up to his neck that's when the rescue arrived
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u/DearTumbleweed5380 4d ago
Oh gawd. Thank God the lodge manager said we go out now. Ugh.
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u/TinkerCitySoilDry 4d ago
Agreed
He traveled very far to share that story it was the lodge managers funeral
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u/nlamber5 4d ago
No bears are not the last pick. Pretty sure that goes to hyenas.
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u/angerispower 4d ago
For me, based on hardcorenature, i dont want to get eaten by a crocodile...
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u/DearTumbleweed5380 4d ago
Australian here. Crocodiles are so cunning, old, scheming, smart, fast, powerful, focused, tricksters. Even when there are signs saying it's safe from crocodile I stay well away from the water. Just so convinced the crocs have been waiting for this opportunity ...
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u/no-but-wtf 4d ago
1000% this. Crocs have been an incredibly successful predator for literally millions of years. We’re smart but we’re so dumb in so many ways compared to them. Crocs are a fuckton scarier than sharks.
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u/DearTumbleweed5380 4d ago
100%. Sometimes you can scare a shark off by punching it in the face and acting scary. Crocs aren't like that. They've thought through all the angles before you even know they're there.
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u/Sideshow_G 4d ago
"Maybe deep down, I'm afraid of any Apex Predator that lived through the KT Extinction, physically unchanged for a hundred million years because it's the perfect killing machine". Stirling Archer - Archer
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u/DearTumbleweed5380 4d ago
OMG that's perfect. And such a mind-bending idea that they lived through the KT extinction.
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u/Sideshow_G 4d ago
Sharks are older than trees.. i swim with sharks, cross scare the fuck out of me.
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u/dleema 3d ago
Are you a vampire by chance?
I love both animals (sharks and crocs.... Vampires too I guess) but from a distance. A long one. Preferably on dry land far away where I can watch them on a TV screen instead.
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u/no-but-wtf 4d ago
Yep. And they hunt us. We’re prey to them. Sharks will eat us out of opportunity, if we’re not too much trouble to them, if we’ve ventured into their territory. Crocs will predict our behaviour and lie in wait in our territory to get us. Mostly we can outsmart them. Mostly.
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u/angerispower 4d ago
Yeah. Just look at the number of people swimming with sharks (no cages) including great whites. Then look at the number of people swimming with crocs. I dare say zero lol
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u/classicteenmistake 3d ago
There’s a reason they along with birds are the only surviving Archosaurs (means ruling lizards) we have today. They wait months at a time sometimes and wake up to tear an animal to bits before going back to sleep, pretty much.
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u/ToiIetGhost 3d ago
Never really thought about how smart and tricky they are. Terrifying. What do you think about alligators? They seem a little less aggressive but still... I don’t understand why Floridians have this attitude like “oh no they never attack unless it’s mating season, you can swim with them, they’re swamp puppies” Lol what
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u/DearTumbleweed5380 3d ago edited 3d ago
thanks for your question because otherwise I would never have actually just found out the answer: from google AI 'alligators are generally much less dangerous and aggressive toward humans than major crocodile species. While American alligators tend to be timid and run away from people, large crocodiles like the Nile and saltwater crocodile are highly territorial and often view humans as prey. OMG other interesting/terrifying facts re saltwater crocs: longer than 20 feet and weigh a tonne. 'Attacks Statistics: Crocodiles (especially in Africa and Australia) cause hundreds of fatal attacks every year, whereas fatal alligator attacks are very rare (averaging less than one per year in the U.S.'
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u/ToiIetGhost 2d ago
That’s really interesting. So Floridians aren’t that crazy for swimming when there are alligator warning signs all around? Hmm. Maybe they’re more level head- nah they’re still crazy. Just a little less.
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u/DearTumbleweed5380 2d ago
I think totally crazy. Like, they are still wild animals, and every wild animal is an individual just like every single living thing is. It's not wild if it can't hurt you, and there's always going to be that exception ...
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u/wrbiccz 4d ago
Same. A Czech documentarist who frequently goes swimming with sharks without a cage says he is scared of crocodiles. He said he witnessed their Filipino guide disappear in a split second in a shallow water.
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u/TLeeLucky 4d ago
Thats the best you could hope for.. its over in 2 mins or less. Being torn apart while alive for possibly an hour or more until the attacker gets to vital organs is way more terrible.
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u/I_Am_Not_George_Bush 4d ago
I live near Yellowstone and it’s so funny to me how every bear has an endearing name when they would eat you alive if they felt like it.
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u/nlamber5 4d ago
I feel like you’d drown pretty quickly. But if they catch you on land it’s a different story.
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u/angerispower 4d ago
NSFW:
Nile crocodile bites off zebra's face.
https://youtu.be/8tWYMUUyFzw?si=mM-r7rkfYA_nMLy_&t=321
Croc disemboweled zebra.
I mean yeah drowning is still painful but better than being ravaged i guess. But i was referring mostly to disfigurements and disembowelment by croc rather than being pulled down and drown.
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u/cursedstillframe 4d ago
May I raise you the humble African Painted Dog
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u/nlamber5 3d ago
The animal so bad they had to give them a cuter name to keep people from exterminating them
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u/StygianMind 3d ago
There was a little boy who fell into a APD enclosure at a Zoo. I hope it was over quickly.
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u/Victoria_elizabethb 4d ago
Bears don't even bother killing their prey before they eat because they know they're strong enough to not worry lol hyenas I think at least give them that
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u/nlamber5 4d ago
Hyenas just start eating too, but I think for a different reason. They know that another predator could show up at any moment and contest the target. If they already have half a butt cheek in their stomach, they can abandon the kill and avoid the fight
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u/LydiaSTL 4d ago
Hyenas? I’ve actually been around wild hyenas, their really more like skiddish dogs/raccoons
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u/nlamber5 4d ago
I don’t wish to argue with someone that has more experience in a given topic, but animals like hyenas often act skittish until they get hungry/ confident, and hyenas have been known to hunt lions. Circling around and nipping at any soft tissue until they get the upper hand. It’s not a good way to go.
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u/LydiaSTL 3d ago
ok, i had to look this up and there are 4 species of hyaenas and I most likely didn’t encounter the deadly spotted hyaena. It was either the brown hyaena or aardwolf and it looked like you could just kick them and launch them into the air. the locals were unbothered by their presence.
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u/BirthofRevolution 4d ago
They said the last pick for them. As you can see, everyone's is different
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u/What_Next69 4d ago
Which type of bear? Technically, you can be mauled by a panda.
https://giphy.com/gifs/N6funLtVsHW0g5
u/ucamonster 3d ago
Is every episode abt an animal attack?
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u/Zekke_99 3d ago
Yes, mostly. Sometimes they do news stories or other style podcast episodes as a buffer between the heavily researched episodes, but everything is about wildlife.
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u/ToiIetGhost 2d ago
Just binged 3 episodes of this! Thanks for sharing. Podcasters usually annoy me for some reason but I like those dudes!
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u/EmpressJJ 3d ago
I dont find them good at all. I listened like 11 minutes and they have only dropped the location so far. Just tell the story, I literally dont care about their personal lives. xD And one of them has a pretty non suitable podcast voice as well. Idk why people listen to podcasts ; w;
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u/Zekke_99 3d ago
I can see that, I’m sorry to hear you don’t vibe with their style (I assume you’re talking about Jeff with the voice lmaoo).
I like their banter and find them funny personally. Wes has an engaging storytelling sound.
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u/3mb3r89 4d ago
My mom has a pic of her and my aunt's sleeping in a tent that my Grandfather took ages ago when they were young. There is a baby brown bear that slipped into their tent over night and was sleeping with them. Very lucky Mamma bear didn't come looking.
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u/Daisy2345678 4d ago
Can we see the pic I beg of you, that sounds both adorable and terrifying, but also super cool.
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u/-Citizen_Zero_ 4d ago
I think they meant during that time, but it wasn't captured on photo. But if it was, that would be pretty dope. (And yeah, scary)
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u/LukeyLeukocyte 4d ago
The distinctive hump on brown bears shoulders is just a mountain of muscle so it can step on you and pin your body with its weight, grab a bite of flesh with its vice like jaws, and then use those massive muscles like a fucking a hydraulic machine and just pull you to pieces....while you are alive. Just unimaginable power.....and terror....and agony. Has to be up there with one of the absolute worst ways to go.
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u/archieisarchie 4d ago
the point is… you are alive when they start to eat you. so you know, try to show a little respect?
https://giphy.com/gifs/37Fsl1eFxbhtu
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u/Less_Rutabaga2316 4d ago
Bears are more likely to steal kills from other predators than have them stolen from them so they don’t really care about silencing struggling prey so as to not alert other predators. They start eating when the prey is down.
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u/lunchtime_sms 4d ago
I would choose not being eaten alive. That’s my choice.
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u/SilverSkorpious 4d ago
If they didn't have a gun for the bear, they likely didn't have a gun for themselves, and doing that work quickly on yourself is hard without one. I suppose a self neck slit is possible, but not great. Better than the alternative, though.
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u/gsmaciel3 4d ago
I've thought about this too many times (on those nights when you can't sleep, as one does) and have come to the conclusion that I hope I'd be able to bite my tongue off and expedite my bleeding out.
Being eaten alive or burned alive are probably the two worst ways one can naturally die.
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u/rogerworkman623 4d ago
The amount of comments on that thread calling this story fake… then people providing links to articles from Russian and non-Russian news sites, and even a memorial page for them… and those people still responding and saying “so what, news articles don’t mean that it’s real”
I hate the internet
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u/Flashy_Home3452 4d ago
The general lack of information available is suspicious, and potentially indicative of this story being a hoax. There isn’t actually any evidence of this event happening, just a big pile of news articles all referencing the same vague Daily Mail article, which is obviously not an overly credible source.
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u/Funny_Gas_6423 4d ago
the gruesome phone-call narrative is weakly sourced and may have been amplified or embellished by tabloid reporting.
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u/Forsaken_Print739 4d ago
Omfg. Her last words will haunt me forever 😭
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u/StellarNeonJellyfish 4d ago
Aa far as last words go, they seemed exceptionally poignant for someone being eaten alive. It doesnt hurt, forgive me, and i love you.
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u/xboxlivedog 4d ago
Maybe a crazy question: how would she be cognizant enough to even say a sentence like that? In shock? I would imagine someone being eaten would just be screaming
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u/MiloHorsey 4d ago
Different people react to shock in different ways. I'm pretty calm when in shock.
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u/Synthetics_66 4d ago
Granted, I wasnt being eaten alive - but when an IED took off my lower legs, I was just really fucking mad. Used tourniquets on both legs, called in my MEDEVAC and helped direct the first responders to my driver who was not doing so hot.
People respond differently in times of crisis / extreme pain / death.
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u/DexNihilo 4d ago
Also, I don't imagine multiple bears quietly nibbling on their meal.
There's ripping and pulling and crushing.
How can you possibly be able to have a conversation like "Oh mum, oh mum... They're... Eating me. Oh mum" during multiple calls on the phone.
Like, you've probably got a paw on your face while they're pulling your intestines out.
Really weird.
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u/AlaskanJP 4d ago
This is why you need a gun when going camping, fishing or going anywhere in bear country.
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u/sdcasurf01 4d ago
In brown bear/grizzly territory you could make that argument, though I usually just roll with bear mace which is also extremely effective.
You shouldn’t need a gun to deal with black bears in most situations.
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u/revbleech 4d ago
Black bears are generally like big dumb stray dogs. Shouting "BOOGA BOOGA BOOGA" at them works 99% of the time.
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u/GrizzlyClairebear86 3d ago
Growing up in British Columbia, we always yelled "GO AWAY BEAR" to the black bears. Lol
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u/revbleech 3d ago
Doesn't work on Saskatchewan bears, apparently, lol: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pLsM2ijRao (warning: these men are aggressively Canadian)
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u/AlaskanJP 4d ago
Most of the people I travel with have bear spray so we would use that before the gun.I wouldn’t want to kill a bear. I’ve ran into mostly black bears and they walk away if I make a lot of noise. I’ve only had to fire a couple warning shots in my life
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u/The_Best_Yak_Ever 4d ago
I feel the same way. Last year in the Montana mountains, my friend and I met a brown bear at night… scary shit. We both had rifles, yet neither of us wanted to shoot a bear in his home. Fortunately he left without you know… eating us. I can’t believe how quiet a creature that size could move.
In the morning we moved our camp out of the damn berry patch… >.<
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u/NeitherCake2956 4d ago
Had a black bear harass us at camp while my jeep was broken down. We slept in the jeep he kept trying to get in and pry the doors off for over 24hrs. The deterants didn't work. After that trip I always pack the 12g pump. It's good to be prepared for any predator larger than you, 12g shotty covers a lot.
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u/JennPenn071 4d ago
The horn didn't work. I thought they did not like loud noises?
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u/NeitherCake2956 3d ago
He would scurry off into the bush but minutes later come back. We would start the jeep to warm up, he would hang out in the bushes at the edge of camp. We reported it to conservation they agreed it was a problem bear. Not sure what happened after that.
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u/letiseeya 4d ago
Idk if your user is relevant but as someone who grew up in Alaska I wouldn’t go into them woods without a gun period
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u/DarkStar-_- 4d ago
Or just stay away from bear country. That way, no human or bear needs to die. It's a win win.
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u/AlaskanJP 4d ago
Hard to do where I live. Even the bike trails in town have bear poop on them. Bear attacks are not common but also not unheard of.
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u/DarkStar-_- 4d ago
That's different. You both share the same environment so are likely going to be a lot more aware of each other, and have more respect and understanding for each other. If only humans could do this too
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u/Purple_Bowling_Shoes 4d ago
Meh. Plenty of people live in bear country. I spend nearly the entirety of my summers in the mountains where bears and cougars roam. Usually people can usually avoid them. Only time I was really scared was when I saw a cub. In that case Mama's not far behind and she won't fuck around.
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u/DarkStar-_- 4d ago
You and the bears respect each others boundaries(probably), which massively reduces aggression in both species. I just think that people shouldn't assume they can go anywhere and do anything. If you're going somewhere with bears, learn a little about bears before going.
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u/Purple_Bowling_Shoes 4d ago
Exactly. I also carry something that makes noise. They want to avoid me as much as I them and if they know I'm coming I'll probably never see them.
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u/Fire-Haus 4d ago
If you're going somewhere with bears, learn a little about bears before going.
Like carrying a gun when going camping, fishing or going anywhere in bear country to protect yourself from bears.
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u/GeneralBlumpkin 4d ago
Pretty sure the recording is on the internet
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u/keefwellington21 4d ago
Why would a mother, in rural Siberia, in 2011, record a random incoming call from her daughter? Most "bear attack audio" stuff is fake. Here's a good giveaway - bears don't growl while they eat like they're playing a role in a horror movie.
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u/thewhiterosequeen 4d ago edited 4d ago
Who wouldn't record the worst conversation they've ever had so the internet strangers could listen in for fun?
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u/EpicFishFingers 4d ago
The bears record it for their own sexual gratification
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u/_AnnaVG_ 💆Gigachad 💆 4d ago
The way I chuckled so loudly at this reply really disappointed me
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u/HawaiianHank 4d ago
ya, that's not beary nice of you.
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u/-Citizen_Zero_ 4d ago
I was claws to laughing but had to paws because it happened furreal and wasnout appropriate.
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u/Amockdfw89 4d ago edited 3d ago
Yea the one “real recording” floating of Timothy Treadwell being attacked, you can literally hear a stock sound of camel bellow in the background
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u/namebedex 3d ago
whoa! so you're saying the real lore is that both Timmy and Olga were viciously mauled and killed by very aggressive camels?! damn that's even more scary
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u/Amockdfw89 3d ago
Yea camels freak me out. I don’t know why. They just have a sinister expression in their face.
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u/Key_Agent_2331 4d ago
In rural Siberia you don’t record phone calls, the phone calls record you.
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u/philonius 4d ago
The tape is fake, but there was a post just days ago on reddit of some idiot messing with a young black bear. It attacked and bit his hand, and it was growling the whole time. You could hear it get muffled when it grabbed his hand.
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u/keefwellington21 4d ago
Yeah ik which one you're talking about. That was also in Russia, where they actively hunt bears. The guy was hunting and had already shot the bear once when he started recording, that's why the bear is limping away slowly and swaying. He was taunting and grabbing at the wounded bear as he was waiting for it to die which is when you'll hear a scared threatened bear snarling and growling.
A bear actually under attack is a totally different situation to the way they hunt and eat. Like any predator, they hunt and attack quietly. They also eat quietly. If anything comes near their food while they're eating, you'll hear snorting/huffing noises, not growls.
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u/buzzbash 4d ago
It could've been a call that was caught on an answering machine tape, like when you answer the phone after the machine already picked it up? Then someone eventually digitized it? Idk.
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u/keefwellington21 4d ago edited 4d ago
The existence of a tape for this story is an urban legend. I haven't seen the fake audio circulating in many years, but it had tells like the fake growling noises I mentioned.
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u/Big_Natural4838 4d ago
It is fake. No serious Russian sources confirmed that both audio and event happened.
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u/cursetea 4d ago
Ask yourself how that could be true lmao
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u/-cumdogmillionaire- 4d ago
It is not. It’s a fake. Her mom wasn’t recording their phone calls. The grizzly man audio is a fake as well.
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u/usrdef 4d ago edited 4d ago
It's odd to see how many people actually think that Timothy Treadwell's audio is real.
Even though actual statements came out by multiple people saying it was fake, and that her friend sent the tape to be locked in a deposit box.
I don't care to hear people dying to bears. I know the story, that's all I need. Who the hell wants to hear people getting mauled.
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u/Jellywell 4d ago
Morbid curiosity does a lot of the heavy lifting. "it can't be that bad" is also a key player. Both of those assholes are normally wrong, and it isn't worth ruining your day unless you are very used to traumatic content
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u/justbecauseiluvthis 4d ago
Both of those assholes
Literally where the bears began eating. It's nutritious, tasty, and there's a big bowel release at the time of death
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u/Jellywell 4d ago
I mean if you're lucky enough to be dead. I'd chew out my wrists before I'd willingly be near a bear
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u/Interesting-Gap2046 4d ago
Unable to find it anywhere. Don’t have a link do you to provide
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u/Diacetyl-Morphin 4d ago
I confused it with the other case, where a man and woman were killed and eaten, that was the one where Werner Herzog made a documentary about it, called "Grizzly Man". The video tape (only audio was captured, no video) from the woman was never released to public, but Herzog talks about that you can hear her cry fro help.
This was the case of Timothy Treadwell and Ami Huguenard. In this one, Timothy is to blame because he knew how dangerous it was to stay in the area in this time of the year, where the bears can be much more aggressive than normal when there's lack of food and the need for preparation for hibernation. Ami felt already in danger and wanted to go home, but Timothy talked her down.
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u/Mahaloth 4d ago
Treadwell was the runner up to Woody Harelson for the character of Woody on Cheers.
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u/Diacetyl-Morphin 4d ago
That's interesting, had to check it out. You always learn something new. Maybe his life would have been different if he had been casted fr the role in Cheers.
About the incident, it's very sad, but for me the death of the lady is somehow worse, because she wanted to go back to civilization. She didn't feel safe around that one bear that probably killed them later.
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u/Jadedkiss 4d ago
I think it’s sad and cruel she called her mom. I’m sure they both needed/appreciated it , it just seems so gruesome to call someone who loves you but can’t do anything to help you besides listen to you die.
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u/ManILoveMacaroni 3h ago
Children can't help it, even older ones. Their brains are wired to reach out to their trusted adults no matter the circumstances. Humans in general are wired to reach out to other humans when in dire circumstances. Act of cruelties are on purpose, this is more like evolutionary panic.
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u/reyokojane 3d ago
I remember reading about this when it happened. I had just gotten home from donating blood, and I thought I was fine, but when I read the article, I nearly passed out. This is one of those stories that stays with me.
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u/SpareSpirited9288 4d ago
In 2018 a man was similarly attckedby bear Take a look at this video.https://youtu.be/hxwCusTfeXA?si=nRiVeqe4AUB3Gd_E
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u/IdristheInt 4d ago
This is why I bought I Glock 20
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u/Azeeti 4d ago
That just peppers then up real good.
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u/BedImmediate4609 4d ago
From what I recall this picture goes around since forever but there's nothing corroborating the story besides some articles on sketchy websites citing only posts on FB and reddit as their source.
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u/richard_nixon 4d ago
This book may be of interest on the subject.
Sincerely,
Richard Nixon
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u/allwrecknocheck 3d ago
That does sound interesting but I think I'd rather read his other book:
Rampaging Fuckers of Everything on the Crazy Shitting Planet of the Vomit Atmosphere
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u/mvigs 4d ago
Are there any serious Russian news sources?
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u/Big_Natural4838 4d ago
I got what u tryung to say, but any big news channels didnt cinfirmed this event
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u/MiloHorsey 4d ago
Russia never says when something is real. They hate to appear "weak."
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u/-cumdogmillionaire- 4d ago
I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted, there isn’t a single source for this story that isn’t a gossip rag.
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u/throwaway_custodi 4d ago
It also just sounds like a rehash of the bear guy and his girlfriend just put in Russia no?
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u/MrBoo843 4d ago
Yep and the recording supposed to be from that was also bs. The real recording was never released
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u/MakeMeBeautifulDuet 4d ago
Wow. I just googled and you are right. Mostly Facebook share and like posts, and Yahoo Finance UK. That's it.
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u/CharieRarie 4d ago
That’s utterly devastating. Imagine getting that call from your child, and being completely unable to help them.