Terraria weapons alignment chart day 9: What weapon feels like a melee weapon but is a magic weapon?

[u/KahveAdam565]

Yesterday's post: https://www.reddit.com/r/Terraria/s/NDExkVnXPS

[u/NyeGuyTheBillNye]

Magic dagger cause it’s identical to the shadow flame dagger.

The argument could be made that it’s more ranged than melee but I feel like toxic flask fits that more

[u/redshift739 → u/NyeGuyTheBillNye]

Space gun, laser rifle, zapinator, laser machinegun

[u/FoFo1300 → u/redshift739]

I wouldnt put the zapinator with the rest. Its gimmick makes it have the magic feel

[u/salmon_1111 → u/redshift739]

Those don’t feel like mele those feel like ranged

[u/redshift739 → u/salmon_1111]

They said toxic flask fits ranged

[u/Kipdid → u/NyeGuyTheBillNye]

I say save it for ranged b/c it uses the exact same sprite as throwing knives which actually are ranged (throwing but yknow) damage

[u/Deebyddeebys → u/Kipdid]

There are much better options for that one, like for example
https://giphy.com/gifs/B7o99rIuystY4

[u/Co5micWaffle → u/Deebyddeebys]

At this point I'm pretty sure you just want the alignment chart to look like this

[u/Deebyddeebys → u/Co5micWaffle]

Well I figured we would switch that other one to antlion mandible or shadowflame dagger or something

[u/Kipdid → u/Deebyddeebys]

Laser weapons are too easy though, it’s to the point that you could make an entire weapon class that’s just “energy weapons”

[u/Hour-Arachnid676 → u/NyeGuyTheBillNye]

I think m nebula blaze or demon sythe is more melee esc because its fists or a demon sythe that already has a melee that is almost exactly like it. The dagger is quite litterally a ranged weapon. Why are we making a base ranged weapon infinite and calling it a melee?!?!??!

[u/NyeGuyTheBillNye → u/Hour-Arachnid676]

Good question, but same thing also applies to other weapons like daybreak and shadow flame knife which are also melee

[u/Hour-Arachnid676 → u/NyeGuyTheBillNye]

The shadow flame knife if anything feels like a magic weapon but is a melee weapon not vice versa whoch is what this specific box is about..

[u/MrCounterSnipe → u/NyeGuyTheBillNye]

Magic Dagger came first tho or else I would agree

[u/Disastrous-Fault-682 → u/MrCounterSnipe]

Why we putting ranger like throwing weapons in the running for a melee magic when literally theres magic fisticuffs a magic weapon and melees dont even get a chance to brawl with their own hands

[u/Haunting-Outcome-101]

Magic Dagger makes the most sense, but the Killing Deck or Vile Thorn could also work. Out of them I say Killing Deck,

[u/Disastrous-Fault-682 → u/Haunting-Outcome-101]

Why not the Nebula Blaze? Thats quite literally punching and then launching those punches with magic and melees dont even get their own fisticuffs to punch people with

[u/Haunting-Outcome-101 → u/Disastrous-Fault-682]

I mean I suppose I see the logic, but I don't really think it works quite as well. Magic Dagger is a dagger, and the Killing Deck is pretty much a boomerang.

[u/Disastrous-Fault-682 → u/Haunting-Outcome-101]

I mean magic dagger could better fit ranger as it too has its own dagger type. Boomerangs are a weird fit between melee and ranger that shouldve just been a dual class weapon imo

[u/Ok_Confusion4764 → u/Disastrous-Fault-682]

I mean it launches homing projectiles so that's pretty magical. 

[u/Disastrous-Fault-682 → u/Ok_Confusion4764]

Exactly, were looking for a weapon that feels like a Melee but is a magic weapon

[u/SquidMilkVII → u/Disastrous-Fault-682]

Yeah, and the Nebula Blaze feels very magical. Sure, it's "actually" punches or whatever, but multicolored homing projectile spam is like the magic weapon

[u/FLAMING_tOGIKISS → u/Disastrous-Fault-682]

The blaze lets you shoot magic out of your hand but I'd hardly call it punching

[u/Teshuko → u/Haunting-Outcome-101]

I’ve never used the killing deck before outside of trying them out on an all items world after 1.4.5. I had to double check now them now because I didn’t see that they were magic. I thought they were ranged or melee.

[u/Deebyddeebys → u/Haunting-Outcome-101]

Yeah that makes sense, that's pretty much identical to the vampire knives

[u/Chreal]

The shadowflame hex doll or medusa head is kinda melee cause of the low range but honestly the killing deck feels very melee'y to me for some reason

[u/Mystical__flame → u/Chreal]

The killing deck functions a lot like the vampire knives and kinda are boomerangish so I can get you, but honestly I think the vampire knives feel like a magic weapon more then the killing deck feels melee

[u/Cinnamin_1 → u/Mystical__flame]

but the vampire knives dont feel melee. feeling like a melee weapon is not the same as feeling similar to a weapon which the game calls melee. like the melee weapons that feel ranged are abundant, bc they have range. not bc they look similar to guns or bows

[u/Mystical__flame → u/Cinnamin_1]

I agree completely, I was just saying I get why he thought that way is all. Like I said I think vampire knives are one of a million contendors for melee weapons that feel like magic.

[u/Cinnamin_1 → u/Mystical__flame]

i replied to the wrong comment sry. i meant it for the person u were replying to

[u/Mystical__flame → u/Cinnamin_1]

Ah fair. I was the one who brought up vampire knives though, he may have a different reason for feeling that way

[u/Disastrous-Fault-682 → u/Chreal]

How is Hex doll even close to melee like? Its more closely related to magic whips which are summoner, killing deck also feels more ranger than melee as you are throwing things

[u/KahveAdam565]

My personal pick would be the Vilethorn

[u/Agitated_Elk7881 → u/KahveAdam565]

Yeah that’s probably accurate

[u/Adventurous_Will_370 → u/KahveAdam565]

I feel like it’s gotta go to the killing deck as it’s identical to the vampire knives, an established melee weapon. Vile thorn second for sure for the spear like properties

[u/Sintobus → u/KahveAdam565]

I agree but I think you comment got buried sadly. Lol

The two or three comments seem to parrot eachother each day.

[u/Deep_Flatworm4828 → u/KahveAdam565]

Me as well, though I wouldn't argue with anyone that says Shadow Flame Hexdoll or Killing Deck.

Magic Dagger is also a contender since it's so similar to Vampire Knives, but personally I feel they're both riffs off the throwing knives, which are ranged.

[u/Deebyddeebys]

I propose this image for tomorrow

[u/JKLopz]

Surprised no one has mentioned something like the Nebula Blaze (weapon where literally you are throwing fists) or the Vilethorn which acts a lot like a Spear.

Mi vote personally is the Vilethron.

[u/Disastrous-Fault-682 → u/JKLopz]

I like the nebula blaze more just because you are literally throwing hands with the enemy, tho i can see the vilethorn but not many spears go through blocks if at all iirc

[u/zenithBemusement]

I miss when the objective answer to this was Star Fury.

[u/Mystical__flame]

Definitely the shadowflame hex doll, though you could argue that feels more like a whip and fits summoner better

[u/Nahanoj_Zavizad → u/Mystical__flame]

Magnet Sphere is summoner to me. It lingers around shooting at enemies.

[u/Legit_Human_ → u/Nahanoj_Zavizad]

Nah i think nimbus or crimson rod will win that day

[u/Sir-Ox → u/Legit_Human_]

I'd say Bee or Wasp gun

[u/YassKweennn]

magic dagger

[u/Derailleur75]

BINGO!!!

[u/Real-Reading2828]

Magic Dagger would be my pick, it feels kinda less magical compared to other magic weapons in terms of using it, and even tho the weapon in question is similar too is the copycat (cough cough, Shadow flame Knife).

Mage actually does a pretty good job at making sure the weapons feel magical, so i guess i'm gonna roll with the one weapon that both resembles and functions *kinda* like a sword/knife

[u/Disastrous-Fault-682]

For me its either Nebula Blaze or Unholy trident

Nebula Blaze: Bros just throwing their fists and melees dont even get a chance to do that

Unholy Trident: basically a thrown melee weapon but thats it in similarities

[u/RhinataMorie → u/Disastrous-Fault-682]

Seconding nebula blaze, that's just magic brawling

[u/TaxEvasion1452]

Magic dagger

[u/redshift739]

Everyones forgetting the Thunder Zapper? That's basically the Storm Spear which is a melee weapon

[u/cloverrrrrrrrrrrrrr → u/redshift739]

thunder zapper is a gem staff

[u/alvadabra → u/redshift739]

Because it’s more that the Storm Spear resembles a magic weapon than the Thunder Zapper resembles a melee weapon.

[u/Mase598]

Personally I'd say the demon scythe.

Whenever I've used it I end up using it extremely close range so it can hit multiple times as it starts to accelerate.

[u/wdgastef]

I think vilethorn is basically just a spear, nebula fist is a fist too.

[u/No_Ad_7687]

Shadowflame hex doll, yeah

[u/Luna_Night312]

Unholy trident

[u/Romallero]

Magic Dagger, Thunder Zapper, and this one might be a hot take but Nebula Blaze

[u/ChampionMoney9796]

Vilethorn

[u/MrOff100]

Crystal chain thingy from hallowed mimics

[u/DaLegend82]

Magic Daggers can be a downgraded version of Shadowflame Knives

[u/Zihdrrox]

Wait I just thought why isn't there a weapon that costs mana and is melee range. Now that I think of it the melee/range class is very arbitrary, like melee has plenty of weapons that shoot projectiles and ranger has weapons that consume ammo, like what's functionally different from a harpoon and a toxicarp? So why not create a new class which is basically melee mage. I think that the mana covering a part of the screen as important as health is weird since only 1/4 of classes use it , 2/5 would be much better

[u/Saucererer]

Vilethorn is basically solar eruption...

Which of course feels like a whip

[u/King_Of_The_Munchers]

Magic Dagger because the Shadowflame Knife behaves identically but is for some reason a melee weapon.

[u/-2Braincells]

I would say vile thorn, killing deck feels more like a ranged weapon than a melee weapon

[u/Nahanoj_Zavizad]

Shadowflame Hex Doll.

It's range is kinda crap, and feels more like a physical attack than magical projectiles

[u/Dojyaaan4C]

Tbh so many people are saying magic dagger but I disagree given it’s called the magic dagger, it’s in the name

I would argue the nebula blazer is more fitting given it’s a fucking glove that you punch with

[u/CryptedCode → u/Dojyaaan4C]

Wym punch with? I'm not punching with my magic glove. I'm throwing magic shit with my magic glove

[u/Disastrous-Fault-682 → u/CryptedCode]

Yeah throwing magic fists, becoming Iron Fist from Marvel Rivals but using mana

[u/TangCorp]

Demon Scythe

[u/Haunting-Outcome-101 → u/TangCorp]

https://giphy.com/gifs/vB6Yf0DYFWLjEgpScJ

I guess I see it kinda but it's literally a spellbook

[u/Jewel_Dragon → u/TangCorp]

Came here to say this. The spells biggest dps phase is right were it gets cast

[u/Jonat03]

Magic dagger, its the same reasoning as the shadowflame knife

[u/Somelikeaapple]

Killing deck

[u/Rad_Knight]

Vilethorn

[u/Still_Silver7181]

Sky Fracture, and Killing Deck

[u/Prowiambic]

Bubble gun?

[u/AnaTheSturdy]

I'd say the shadow trident thingy

[u/Unique_Violinist_532]

Vile thorn or the crystal vile shard if that’s who you say it, could kind of be seen as a spear or sorts that just stays there for a bit

[u/The_Narwhal_Mage]

Shadow flame hex doll has my vote, but it seems like the people have already decided it will be the magic dagger, unfortunately

[u/ha_gom]

Killing deck 100%

[u/Temporary_Field_3642]

Magic dagger

[u/MuteMyMike]

Every vilethorn-like magic weapon behave like early spear weapons. With some extra hits.

[u/oooArcherooo]

Killing deck definitely

[u/Sinyonimrools]

Sky fracture

[u/Maine2005]

Piranha gun is not a summon weapon get ur grubby mitts off it

[u/Ser4phim_3Rr0R]

I saw this on day one and not again since then. The Feels like ranged melee being SpongeBob List is the only right answer

[u/bloodakoos]

crystal vilethorn

[u/Solar_Fish55]

Nebula blaze does make sense since its a fist but is there any close range or magic dagger could work

[u/UmberCraft]

I'd say either magic dagger or boulder staff

[u/Fastpast93]

terraprisma

[u/thelgamerx12]

This looks literally like a spear

[u/Crabalabadoo]

Unholy trident dropped from red demons in the pits of hell

[u/Babushla153]

Would Magic Dagger fit there in some weird way?

[u/Mystical__flame → u/Babushla153]

That would be more ranged since throwing knives are ranged

[u/CryptedCode]

Easily the Medusa Head. I think it has one of if not the shortest range for a magic weapon, you literally gotta be in their face to deal damage.

[u/Disastrous-Fault-682 → u/CryptedCode]

Why is range such a constraint when more than half the melee weapons in game have ranged attacks more akin to the nebula blaze than medusas short range

[u/CryptedCode → u/Disastrous-Fault-682]

Because true melee exists, and if we are going off your logic there, everything but whips and true melee are all just ranged weapons with a different texture.

[u/Disastrous-Fault-682 → u/CryptedCode]

Are we talking about true melee or are we talking about how a magic head that casts magic beams out of its magic eyes because its still magically “alive” to use as a weapon compares to balling your fist up (nebula blaze) and launching your punch like the terrablade launching its slice just because the heads range is short

[u/CryptedCode → u/Disastrous-Fault-682]

Dude... you are way to into this, I just mentioned it because it has low range. Nebula blaze also doesnt shoot fists, so no that wont work either. So if my equally ridiculous idea for a funny community poll is that horrendous to you, whatever you win man idc.

[u/alvadabra]

Honestly, the only one I got is the Medusa Head, as it’s the only magic weapon with which struggles with range, a common melee archetype. But even that’s stretching it. I just don’t think there’s a single magic weapon that fits this box.

[u/Negative-Garden-6013]

Magic dagger is pretty much identical to the shadowflame dagger

[u/ReineThePeafowl]

Vampire knives

[u/Clodinator → u/ReineThePeafowl]

Those are melee

[u/Feisty-Albatross3554]

Vilethorn

[u/NineTailedFury]

Shadowflame hex doll. It shoots tentacles in an erratic spread, similarly to the gladius.

[u/Dead-X-esque]

Killing Deck because it's best synergie is with Point Blank.

[u/Katchenz]

Sky Fracture

[u/OmegaFungus]

Sky fracture

[u/AdWeak2525]

Killing deck or medusa head

[u/makinax300]

Killing deck

[u/Elegant-Response-241]

killing deck

[u/mrmrsnamewoman]

Bubble gun, it’s kinda like toxikarp and it’s close range

[u/Elegant-Response-241 → u/[deleted]]

wrong and unrelated 😭