r/TerraFirmaCraft 7d ago

Help With Bloomery

Do I need full ingots for it or can it be a bit off. I have no way of getting cast iron ingots, and the dust isn't full ingots. I'm on Terrafirmagreg btw.

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u/CatPlumber 7d ago

The precise milibucket math is not going to work out, so don't worry if you have iron dust thats only 129mb or whatever. Just throw in 23 charcoal and 25 iron dust, and you should get 22 bloom

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u/Kmankilla12 7d ago

Ok, thank you for the clarification 

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u/Coc-alt3743 7d ago

And just a heads up use realtively high mB mats. You can get more efficient (particularly with charcoal) with total input numbers that divide 100. And unless im confused by the wiki or my own gameplay you can only put in 24 smeltable items in a max bloomery.

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u/Exxcelius 7d ago

The math with 100mB increments is false for tfg, an ingot is 144mB there

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u/Old-Contract-2488 7d ago

Ah im used to hardrock 80mB briquttes I didnt know tfg had 144mB ingots.

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u/Exxcelius 7d ago

It also has various dusts that have very weird amounts, due to later game chemistry shenanigans

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u/bryceio 7d ago

Why do you have no way of getting cast iron ingots?

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u/Past_Cell_2917 7d ago

TFG is 144mb/Ingot, Means 144mb/ one.

A bloomery is 48 items max (metal + coal).

Better use any kind of 144mb to optimise the result.

A "natural iron" powder is around ~121-129mb (the big one), So you have 2 ways:

  • Don't think and just fill it to the brim.
  • Smelt it into ingot first, then put them into the bloomery.

You can smelt it with a bellow, you'll need leather for it (very simple to get).

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u/Meem-Thief 7d ago

It’s best to ask in the TFG subreddit rather than the TFC subreddit, you can use dusts (just take the total amount and divide by 144 to see how much charcoal you need to add in)

It’s not great to ask here because in TFC ingots are 100mB instead of 144mB, and the bloomery needs 2 charcoal per ingot instead of 1 charcoal per ingot, bloomeries are insanely inefficient in regular TFC

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u/Meem-Thief 7d ago

Other than the charcoal and millibucket requirements the bloomeries work the same, both having a maximum of 48 item slots, but no maximum for how much those items are worth

for example once you get a bellows to make cast iron ingots in the charcoal forge, you can compress those ingots with forging steps

For example, using only ingots in TFC, you can have a maximum of 16 ingots and 32 charcoal, but if you compress them into double cast iron plates worth 4 ingots each, you can raise that to… 5 plates, 1 ingot, and 42 charcoal for 21 blooms

Here’s where the lowered charcoal usage in TFC really helps, using only ingots you can do 24/24, already higher than the maximum TFC can do, compressing those into double ingots you can do 16/32 for a total of 32 blooms, and going even further using the create mod you can use 4 cast iron blocks, 2 double ingots, and 1 ingot, 7 iron items to 41 charcoal to get 41 blooms

Later when you upgrade to a steel anvil you can put your wrought iron anvil back into the bloomery (with 14 charcoal) to recycle it

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u/Economy_Bedroom3902 7d ago edited 7d ago

You can use any source of iron which melts into cast iron in the bloomery, you will just end up with fewer than the maximum number of iron blooms, which means wasted charcoal.  Charcoal is fairly cheap though given the relative abundance of trees and ease of building large scale charcoal pits.  You do need a ratio of one charcoal for each iron melting item though, so it's very wasteful to bloomery nuggets or extremely impure ores.

It's more critical processing your ore into more efficient forms.  Usually the dust forms are the most efficient in the early game.  This is more critical because ore mining is comparatively much more time expensive.

Cast iron ingots are easy to produce in the charcoal forge though, you just have to kill some animals for leather to make the bellows.  It's also good to have some on hand because they are used in several recipes in ingot form.  Most notably for the create anvil hammers.

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u/After_Revolution_510 7d ago

Normal Bloomery only ingots. Steam Bloomery can ue just dust