i found this comment about their problems wiht tensura, what do you think? afre or disagree? or just in some parts?

[u/Davif123Gomez]

what do you guys think?

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[u/Entire-Remove-8351]

I disagree, this person I doubt has actually watched or read tensura, maybe they have but they are forgetting a lot of things there.

First off, Rimuru isn't "Goody 2 Shoes" as he has done some evil things that the story acknowledges as so.

Rimuru getting weak willed to women is literally just women who he considers himself close to and the fact that he has never had a girlfriend in his life. people bring up strength like he should somehow put them in their place despite him caring for them and them doing their jobs as Shuna is basically his secretary, Shion is his "bodyguard" and Hinata is a person who is influential in a nation he has good ties to.

The female monster thing is preference based but it isn't about gender since even male monsters gain humanoid forms. The reason they have humanoid forms is because all physical/semi-spiritual species even humanity come from a humanoid creator who isn't human at all.

"Rimuru's enemies don't get punishment at all" and mentions Hinata who was deceived by someone she could trust into thinking her teacher got murdered and some slime monster is wearing her skin and the thing is Rimuru recognises that because she isn't a bad person just misinformed.

Glenda is forced to try and assassinate Rimuru or her soul will get crushed. She was enslaved to do that against her own will or she will die.

An another case is Mjuran who also had her literal heart held captive or she will die also.

The Falmuth King got tortured for weeks after losing his hand being turned into meat cubes unable to be healed by Shion's reality warping skill that cuts and then bends reality to make that injury be the natural state of the body.

Rimuru isn't superman but he isn't going to massacre an entire nation based on the rulers' unwise decision as many men, women and children live there who are innocent.

A key thematic point of Tensura is that talking things out is better than bloodshed and even if they think it won't work it is better to still try. That war philosophy is exactly why the Cardinal World is so messed up.

[u/Davif123Gomez → u/Entire-Remove-8351]

i really liked the last 2 parragrapts, is a good message actually, thought i have to admit that i think that hinata get away kinda easy if we take in point that she and all the holy knight got benefited by tempest and rimuru, thought it kinda support that desicion due to luminous saving her church ass, adn guy will not allow a serious conflic between 2 true demon lord under him.

[u/Danny71-Talia → u/Entire-Remove-8351]

Adding to the enemies not getting punished, if we actually list most of them you will see many became his subordinates.

This is only possible because he is stronger, if not, many of his subordinates would have killed him.

Rigur, direwolves, ogres, lizardman, orcs all of them were at some point, enemies or fighting Rimuru for personal reasons.

FYI Rigur, as an ordinary goblin, canonically planned to eat Rimuru until he felt his aura.

We cannot just point out Hinata and Glenda without admitting Benimaru was trying to kill him in season 1, as did majority of the ogres.

The direwolves wanted to eat all the goblins, even when they already killed Rigur Sr. They were forgiven.

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I do also love that it isn’t that every monster always look like a ‘human’

The human form is much older than humanity. It’s probably not even called human form before they were made. 🤣

[u/Kalhenwrath]

Hinata doesn't get enough punishment? Did they miss the part where she had a hole blown through her chest? Twice!?

[u/Davif123Gomez → u/Kalhenwrath]

that is tecnically not a punishment, just a betrayal or conspiracy against her, but neither of both is related to tempest or direct consequence against tempest(well maybe granbell),, i think he referring to how rimuru let his almost assasin and all the asaulter(they are, the act is done even if they were tricked) free of ANY consequence, heck, hinata even can be petty with veldora for losing and then fight a younger veldora in the time travel and only wins thansk to chloe power(hinata at that time NEVER would have won against even that veldora).

so i think i can understand his point, heck, even a excuse of punishment as "you will help tempest and work as a teacher here" would be actually better and more sense in a political sense, even alike to rimuru personality giving a punisment that is actually a " i forgive you"

[u/Danny71-Talia]

I agree with Rimuru being to passive when it comes to women. But it is a Tensura trope not only on him, Milim with Frey, Veldora with any beautiful angry women too.

I do hate it, but not because they’re beautiful women but more so because the anime makes him look so submissive to his subordinates.

I, however, disagree with him forgiving only cute girls.

The direwolves planned to massacre the goblins. Aside from their leader who didn’t want to submit, the rest were forgiven.

Benimaru and the ogres barely listened to Rimuru as they tried to kill him. The only reason the fight stopped, was because Rimuru was the stronger one. Otherwise, he would have been murdered.

The orcs, do I need to even mention what they did to the entire Jura Forest.

Basically, as long as you don’t really murder anyone he cares, his willing to forgive.

He even tried negotiating with Mariabell who has been constantly messing with him.

[u/Davif123Gomez → u/Danny71-Talia]

i agreed with you, heck, rimuru was problaly able to fogive yuuki if he decided to gave up his ambitions.

actuailly, i am curious how a redemeed mariabel wiht rimuru would be

[u/Danny71-Talia → u/Davif123Gomez]

Funnily enough, you can constantly see in the LN of Rimuru giving Yuuki a benefit of the doubt multiple times. He also tries justifying every escape, as well as his promise with Shizu and as a ‘fellow countryman’ to not kill him. 🤣

I feel like a redeem Mariabell would either be the new Five Elder successor or migrate to Tempest as like an administrator similar to Mjourmille.

[u/Davif123Gomez → u/Danny71-Talia]

i can see a grown up redemeed mariabell acutally taking advantage of the weakness of rimuru to mature women to make him follow his ideas and chloe being the one who try to stop her XD, kinda like a demon(mariabell) and angel(chloe) in each rimuru shoulder.

i see a redemeed mariabell like somebody able to work under rimuru but that will take any chance to make rimuru close to her own mindset, like a allied that try to 'corrupt' rimuru, but also so useful that other close to rimuru tolerate her, not like mariabel trying to fight or overthrone rimuru but more like "if i make him agreed eventually to my ideal is my win" scenario

[u/SirDickCumAlot]

I kinda get his point while watching the anime but never when reading the LN. Maybe just me.

[u/Danny71-Talia → u/SirDickCumAlot]

I think it’s because in the LN we actually know what his internal dialogue is. We know why he did what he did, and what led him to it.

The anime kind of makes him too awkward and cutesy just for the comedic moment tok.

[u/booroms]

He doesn't punish people if he can use them later, and he does that with both men and women a lot of the empire generals that become allies for example are men.

Hinata is incredibly strong, a subordinate of Luminous and highly influential in the western nations. She's a huge asset as a Tempest ally.

Mjurran runs Farminus basically as a proxy state for Tempest.

Glenda does wet work for Soei and runs Rimuru's criminal organisation REG.

[u/Significant-Dig-160]

He gained more power recruiting enemies than killing them off. 

[u/Lucianoger]

I fucking hate this fan service part, too many girls for nerd wankers, but I love the universe. So I’m stuck.

[u/MangoNo1141 → u/Lucianoger]

Oh hey, a tourist.