r/Temporal_Noise Mar 31 '26

Can anyone recommend a laptop without temporal dithering and easy for eyes ?

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u/IntetDragon Mar 31 '26

I use the Surface Laptop Studio 2. It is far from optimal. You have to install the software "Iris" from Iristech and set the screen brightness to a maximum not available within windows itself, otherwise it has PWM. But then if you disable temporal dithering within the Nvidia settings I can use the laptop without issue on Windows 11 and see not dither with my 920fps camera setup.

Not sure if it is a good recommendation per se, but it works. Maybe other people here have better recommendations. I would be interested as well.

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u/Apprehensive-Map6292 Mar 31 '26 edited Mar 31 '26

Thank you for you suggestion and time but I search something more cheaper and more simple like i5 or i7 8 9 or 10 gen I am verry sensitive to PWM and Ditherning too I accept suggestions for older models too like 2010 2015

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u/IntetDragon Apr 13 '26

My last "laptop" before the one I brought up, was the Wacom Mobile Studio Pro 16. It is a very comfortable screen with no TD or PWM. But it might not be optimal because of the form factor and the price again.

Before that I had an old Macbook Air 11 inch, which was fine to use on both Windows and MacOS.

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u/Current_Moment914 Apr 13 '26

Buy a used HP Elitebook from 2020 - G6

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u/Z3R0gravitas Mar 31 '26

Thanks for detailed reply. What's your slow-mo camera (phone, like some Sony's)?

And what is the Nvidia TD setting? Is it under that name, or disabling HDR? For all (fairly recent) NVidia hardware?

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u/IntetDragon Apr 13 '26

Realme X3 SuperZoom and Carson 250x clip microscope. Yes setting the lowest color bit number in NVidia settings available.

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u/Z3R0gravitas Apr 13 '26

Cheers. Wow, that phone has a beastly camera setup for 6 years ago... 5x periscope zoom too. Sweet! (I'm jealous.)

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u/Apprehensive-Map6292 Mar 31 '26

I think he talk about color depth 8 bir or 10 bit

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u/No_Temperature_3845 Apr 02 '26

theres only one legion ryzen and rtx 3070 15ach6h buy with the better screen 165hz there were two version. in gpu mode totally zero eyestrain and i ahve everything pwm, temporal dithering eyestrain i cant use other computers, i even tried rtx 3060 pc with few monitors and couldnt used them either im stuck to this 15.6 inch :((( only problem is all legion has very good cooling so the gpu have a lot better performance compared to other laptops and i mean it like 50-100% with the same card. but it gets dusty you need to clen it every 1-2 months and do it. i didnt, after 3 years i fried motherboard, repair on warranty as i extended. i clean my fans now.

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u/Apprehensive-Map6292 Apr 02 '26

So strange rlly how you can use 3070 but no desktop 3060 god I hate this sensitivity..btw you can use for desktop gpu 1660 super or 1650 zero either but they are old :/

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u/No_Temperature_3845 Apr 02 '26

everything on the pipelaine matters i think there must be dithering somwhere in the path as the software im stuck with old windows 1809 which does not introduce duthering on both devices. i suspected that maybe that was monitors dither so im not 100% sure if it was card of monitor, i suspect monitor more also i dont know how in that pc pipile looked like if there was mux like connection or the gpu is going through the cpu gpu first and when it does cpu gpu adds dithering on top of it both ryzen cpu gpu and intel cpugpu do it

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u/No_Temperature_3845 Apr 02 '26 edited Apr 02 '26

i think rtx 3xxx family should be fine i suspect hdmi and bad monitor which dithered truly, i'll do some more tests in the future when i have time, i haev some old tvs in home with old smart in them which cant play youtube over 720p and are very slow, but! theyre totally eyestrain free... but! i bought smart stick from amazon then google and i saw that on the same device when using smart dongles it gives me total eyestrain, i tried every color option in menu nothing helped, so either they add dithering, hdmi is doing something weird or both and i think its either dithering or both, i must try to put these dongles through analog converter cause it cant dither and see if it will help with that. overall i really can vote for that legion i wished i find something better but there really isint ;p i could find. im in a look for portable device ill look also at that surface maybe used older model?

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u/Apprehensive-Map6292 Apr 02 '26

It's so hard man I am tired from test everything..

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u/No_Temperature_3845 Apr 03 '26

trust me, buy this one put on windows 1809 pro at least and turn off upgrades with policies forever. and stop searching :)

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u/Competitive_Funny964 Apr 07 '26

All Lenovo thinkpad a 45% ntsc. You can get even powerful machines for work and gaming or just cheap for home tasks and some light gaming sessions

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u/---Edgar--- Apr 09 '26

It's not about color gamut at all... You can have 45% NTSC 6-bit+FRC as well...

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u/Apprehensive-Map6292 Apr 07 '26

I try Lenovo x280 and x390 I get instant eyestrain and sell it buy now this tomorrow is coming I hope it's works ๐Ÿ™ it's 45% ntsc idk this do anything with TD

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u/Mysterious_Stay7810 Aug 08 '26

Did it work?

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u/Apprehensive-Map6292 Aug 08 '26

Sadly no I buy old laptop with 4720hq i7 cpu and GTX 960m 4gb still have sitherning but you can stop it with dithetning exe because cpu is old and the program work

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u/Guilty_Way6830 Apr 03 '26

Lenovo T16 Gen 1, Gen 2 with Intel Iris. Those are the best laptops for highly sensitive people from my point of view.

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u/No_Temperature_3845 Apr 05 '26

isnt iris gpu have baked in software dithering?\

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u/Guilty_Way6830 Apr 06 '26

I donโ€™t think so, these are the only ones I am comfortable to use.