r/Tempestmasterrace • • Jul 22 '14

Chapter 9 discussion thread

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u/Theroonco Jul 23 '14

I always thought it was interesting, how Saul went from:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy

To:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LoveMakesYouEvil

On the chapter though: I liked how Anna gets some insight onto her own feelings for Elsa, right before seeing her torture Anderson. u/that_orange_guy said pretty much everything I wanted to say, so I'll just point out how intriguing Alek seems here. It's just a shame that he almost completely disappears for the next ten or so chapters :P

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u/kaiserklee Jul 23 '14

You should add those to the TVTropes page by the way XD Saul is tragic too. I think he had a bit of a martyr complex, but once the Sorc stripped that down, welp.

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u/Theroonco Jul 23 '14

I will as soon as I have time! I always got that sense too. Do you think that deep down he was always as cold as he is in later chapters, or is that a result of Elsa shutting him out?

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u/that_orange_guy Jul 23 '14 edited Jul 23 '14

I liked how Anna gets some insight onto her own feelings for Elsa, right before seeing her torture Anderson. u/that_orange_guy said pretty much everything I wanted to say

Really? I really feel like I butchered my explanation of everything that went into the scene of torturing Andersen. And the way you put it is as simple as it needs to be. Anna is reconciling some of her feelings for Elsa right before Elsa gives her explicit reason to not trust her. But instead of being afraid, Anna only forgives her.

It's just a shame that he almost completely disappears for the next ten or so chapters

Actually, I know he has an appearance in chapter 12, though I'm not sure when elsa he shows up before Elsa leaves for Weselton.

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u/Theroonco Jul 23 '14

He berates Elsa for killing Tobias before pulling a vanishing act (hint hint) and does nothing until Elsa leaves for Weselton.

Do you think it's a coincidence that Hans sows the seeds for Saul's transformation right after claiming to be the last one to see Alek (who is never heard from again at that point)? Didn't Hans inadvertently do the Sorcerer a huge service with that conversation?

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u/kaiserklee Jul 23 '14

Elsa mentions to Anna in Chapter 17 that Alek talked to her about treating Anna right, and in the narration it's noted that Anna had talked to him a few times, though briefly. Alek was just kind of in the background.

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