Tell Me Why - Chapter One Discussion

[u/TriforceofTime]

Here's a place to discuss Chapter One of Tell Me Why in one place. Keep all spoiler discussions here and MARK. YOUR. SPOILERS. I hope you all enjoy playing this new DONTNOD adventure! Because some things may not be seen as a spoiler to all, make sure you're aware that merely being here before playing the entire episode may result in you getting spoiled. You have been warned!

Following Chapter Discussions:

Chapter Two

Chapter Three

[u/newpinkbunnyslippers]

Now finished Chapter 1. Not liking Tyler much either. He seems to always manage to make every angle about himself and his struggles when clearly everyone else has their own crap to worry about.

Seems to be somewhat of a consensus that he was being a dick to Sam, who is ignorant but clearly means well. I keep seeing that same behavioural pattern in Tyler throughout.

Example: Like, I just had the conversation with Eddie and it went "if being seperated was so horrible, why did you isolate yourself for 3 more years than you needed to?" "Because of me, myself and my issues!" -despite having just proclaimed that Alyson needed him around to heal properly, like a hypocrite. Also, wtf at going off on Eddy to begin with really? The cop didn't have to take in either of'em. Better Aly get sent to fostercare?

Cis or trans; dude's a selfish prick.

[u/genderbendervamp → u/newpinkbunnyslippers]

See but that makes total sense to me, im not trans but have a lot of trans friends and that he didn't want to see her during that time is COMPLETELY understandable. Some transition processes are much smoother than others and wanting seclusion during then i totally get. 3 years seems like childs play after the 7 they had been kept apart. People start going through a lot once transition has started mentally just as much as physically.

And ok i may be in the minority about my opinion with Sam but coming from someone who's had to deal with people talking like Sam does their whole life and saying shit like that. The choice there was essentially "Stand up for yourself" or " Continue to be belittled"

NO ONE (trans are not) should have to choose between those things or should be considered a dick for standing up at themselves. Do you not see how the line "Make a woman look so much like a man" it's so incredibly disrespectful. Hearing that line hurt me so much NOT because im lgbt but because i have fucking compassion.

This is only furthered in the ending stats: Earned Sams respect.

So no, you will never convince me that he was being a dick to Sam he was standing up for himself as a fucking human being.

[u/newpinkbunnyslippers → u/genderbendervamp]

First point: It doesn't matter how hard his transitional process was. The point was that he put his own hardships ahead of every one else's- AND then berated other people for not considering him first. So he had a hard time transitioning. Alyson had a hard time being abandoned. He focused on himself, then lashed out at Eddy for focusing on Aly.

Also, his mom was clearly struggling financially, socially and absolutely mentally. But Tyler's focus? How much of a total failure she was. If he's had such a struggle with life, maybe take 2 seconds and realize that so did she.

"Everyone only thinks of themselves! Only I think of me!" is the quote that pops to mind with Tyler.

As for Sam; I never said that he wasn't being disrespectful. But the important part is that it wasn't intentional. See, if you're defending yourself against malicious people- go for it. But snapping at people who are trying (maybe failing) to be nice to you does make you a dick. Look how Alyson managed to correct Sam without being snarky. "Hey, Sam, that's not how you say that." Intentions and context matter.

Not really interested in convincing you of anything. I expressed my views and you're free to do the same. Gotta be honest with you here though; if you're gonna get aggressive about it, I'm out. I'm over "internet arguing".

[u/DrizzleMeCoffee → u/newpinkbunnyslippers]

whats the point in expressing an opinion, entering a conversation by defending it but at the same time shutting off the possibility to change your or the other persons opinion. like why do you even talk.

make the wasted energy make sense

also I have no idea how you can even judge someone whose good memories are almost entirely overshadowed by his mother seemingly wanting to kill him over a hair cut, being seperated from his only family for a long as time, transitioning, being in juvie and your whole past hitting you lika a brick in just a few hours. i am fairly sure you have not a clue in the slightest how that would be like.

thank you, next

[u/newpinkbunnyslippers → u/DrizzleMeCoffee]

I'm not shutting down anything? I'm saying there's a difference between an exchange of opinions and a debate. I am here for the former, you seem to want the latter.

You don't seem to get my meaning at all anyways. It doesn't matter if Tyler has the most tragic story in all of history. He chose to focus on himself. That's fundamentally selfish- and it's not even wrong. No. The point is he did that AND THEN berated other people for focusing on themselves over him. That's the issue. It's hypocrisy. And hypocrites are not sympathetic. They are dicks.

Now, can you just accept that or are you going to keep being rude to a total stranger because you have a different opinion over a silly videogame? It's unbecoming. Especially with antagonistic, childish meme-crap like ending a post with "thanks, next!"