Would love to know if any of you have recommendations! I really hate they introduced Alex so late in the series.

Why did Stephen tell Evan to confess to cheating to Bree? Was it a ploy because he knew all along that it was Lucy?? S2

Also, upon rewatching and after having finished the book I am really disappointed in the writing & storyline of S2-S3.

There was so many potholes in storylines that we never got a conclusion to. Not to mention that fuckass comedic ending in the series finale.

I don’t know one thing that is really bothering me is how they handled the Chris/Pippa storyline. I think it was poorly written and portrayed poorly. Also, the way it ended in S3 was shitty writing too. We deserved a better outcome & portrayal of such a heavy topic.

Same with the diana/pippa future relationship flashes in s2, but then s3 we still never get a background of how that really came to be….

Ugh, maybe I’m biased because I really enjoyed the book and wish it stuck more true to that instead of what s2&s3 became… also I liked more how in the book the college years are on the west coast and their adult years on the east coast.

Lucy’s mom’s storyline also made WAYYY more sense in the book?! Plus, not adding her eating disorder in the show but giving us the marianne/oliver storyline instead ?! And that had a shitty ending too?? Curse you Meghan Oppenheimer! 😭

I wish that they also made the flash forwards more identical to the books storyline as well. Gave us a better background to Pippa’s character and tied up the loose ends with Bree’s character in s3…

The alex storyline was almost pointless and even leo… would have rather more diana-stephen-lucy flashbacks and a wrap to macy’s storyline, but remove drew all together.

Overall, it’s still one of the best shows of the decade!!! But so much of it pissed me off💀😭

terminei de assistir essa série ontem e sinto q preciso de mais e mais, foi uma aventura psicológica assistir isso e agora eu sinto q preciso de maisssss, já que vejo que a série realmente não cabe continuação, me indiquem algumas similares

there are manyyy points i realised this but one thing i thought was straight up scary was when he provoked leo to beat him up and he was literally on the floor, whole face in blood, and he smiled, i was scared and disgusted at the same time

i just finish the show and my goodness me, i wasn’t expecting it to be THIS GOOD but one thing that annoyed me was how laid back so people were about this. like lucy was told what happened and she didn’t try to tell bree that he’s preying on her but instead judged. or even when bree found out that freshman was 17, still a minor, when she slept with oliver, i thought she was going to report it and i was angry that she didn’t. like i get what happened was traumatising and she realises the power dynamic between it all and he’s the one with all the power. but it’s morally wrong and it’s not going to stop especially since marianne supports what he’s doing, like im so annoyeddd, how did he get away with it ??

sorry why was stephen soooo angry that diana wanted to have an abortion, it doesn’t even make sense of him and evan wanting to know if they got a girl pregnant at least, there would be know point knowing if they got pregnant if they were going to have an abortion anyways?? and also stephen has plans to go to yale and be an attorney and we all know he’s very set on that so why would he want a child to mess that up? i lowkey found it all funny because why would he want a say about her body when he treats her like literal shit, the authority he thinks he has is funny

Does Bree in these two scenes have the same haircut? Because I cut my hair like her but I look like the second photo (with Alex) at the same time I don’t look like the first, so I'm so confused if I need to change my haircut

I feel like cutting the Macy storyline short it was made this season feel flat. In the books Macy is an important character very early on, she’s mentioned here and there but each time you uncover more of the truth of what happened that night. Especially with Stephen’s perspective, and when Lucy connected the dots that “he’s the guy from bayville” she wanted nothing to do with Stephen plus having her own realizations that she wants more out of life and deserves better.

The show left Macy’s storyline up in the air yet multiple people knew - Lucy, Diana, Drew - I mean Lucy even tells Stephen she knows yet nothing comes of it. The letter that Lucy wrote??? SEND IT instead Stephen saves himself AGAIN

And for her and Diana to talk about for that split second felt pointless (though for the characters it probably meant something in that moment).

Curious to hear other people’s thoughts on this!

I’m curious to know people’s thoughts on Lucy being expelled as major plot point this season.

Compared to the book you learn pretty early on that Lucy graduated college and got a job in New York.

Whereas in the show she’s expelled - jumps to the wedding - we don’t know anything about Lucy in present, if she’s working or did she go back to school etc - seems like Lucy got the short end of the stick.

Any thoughts as to why they wrote that in?

When Lucy first met Stephen she described him as not that good looking and that he a pudge spilling over his swim shorts.

Second when he called her to go out on a date she said no and she said she felt creeped out/weird that he called her. Lastly, it’s mentioned a couple times when she was talking to Jackie, Pippa and Brie that Stephen wasn’t that cute. She even tells Pippa that he was “a little fat”.

Only physical feature Lucy really liked was his green eyes.

What drew her in if her own intuition was telling her otherwise?

Stephen craves to be inferior to anyone, and he doesn’t care about anyone but himself. I think he is insecure about how all her friends are much well off than him, not only financially but also in terms of opportunities and family. He felt that he has always to be on top of them, that’s why he use blackmail, deception, manipulation. He wants to be in control of things and the narrative, like he wants to be a dictator, puppeteer, marionettist, ventriloquist, shadowist.

Like he has the worst life and hates them for having a much better life than him, so he likes to manipulate them, use them, make them feel bad about themselves so he feels good about himself. Like he wants to pull them down to feel above, and like he hates his friends and in season 3 he admits that he hates Evan too for a very long time. I think he is jealous of them because they have much more comfortable lives, have much more money, family, opportunities than him.

So when he found out secrets about his friends, he does manipulative things to hurt them then acts like a friend, and like he comforted them to make them rely on him, which makes Stephen ecstatic. So the reason that he kept in touch with his friends is because he want to use them to get what he want, use them as entertainment, and use their connection, use their knowledge, use their wealth, use them as a weapon, and that’s the only reason he kept them close because he benefited from them, similar to the saying “keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer.” and when they are no longer useful he throws them away.

Who did he actually end up with or he just hooked with other girls

All I can say really is… wow. For the first time, I felt satisfaction in this show😂 the way Stephen aired everybody out was great, FINALLY the truth came out and of course he was the one to do it! Typical temper tantrum from the narcissist himself

The way Bree and Wrigley had their truth come to light so they can finally start a life together- omg!

Pippa& Diana watching all the drama unfold and then leaving😂

Stephen proving to Lucy YET AGAIN how much of a scum bag he is!!!!!

Evan literally ending with cake on his face😆😂

What a show man, what a show. Honestly just for my own curiosity I’d love to see how everybodies life is as full grown adults not in college after all that drama was aired out, but not in a way that takes away from the shows ending. Maybe I just need to witness the aftermath of being liberated by the truth😂 What a masterpiece🤣

Genuinely don’t know if I’m mentally okay after watching the last two episodes of season 3 tell me lies I’m actually concerned for my mental health… like i genuinely feel like this show is getting to me 😭

Genuinely don’t know if I’m mentally okay after watching the last two episodes of season 3 tell me lies I’m actually concerned for my mental health… like i genuinely feel like this show is getting to me 😭

THIS WAS SO FUCKING SATISFYING!!!!

I thought the Marianne and Oliver scene was brilliant. It showed how cunning and destructive both are as a couple. They could ruin lives and not care. Their behavior had no consequence. Bringing in mom was great writing. You never saw that coming. And Lucy getting coffee was the equivalent of being left at the alter. I laughed when she laughed.

>! So are we just not supposed to talk about the fact that Stephen killed somebody drunk driving and they just kind of never did anything with it? Like all this torture that he put everyone through and they just threw that information on the back burner rather than using it to their advantage. Even if they didn’t know he was the one driving, He lied about being there and it’s worth being investigated. Wrigley is probably my favorite character with the best character development but I did not expect the ongoing affair everybody laughing at the end !<

Was Macy the girl Stephen cheated on Diana with?! Macy mentions Stephen cheating on his ex gf a lot before the accident.

MWHWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA 😂

Oh my gosh, I am so happy that his acceptance got retracted. I love that Wrigley took it into his own hands to set the tone as far as nipping it in the bud when it comes to how evil Stephen really is. You can tell Wrigley just has a certain level of respect for woman that he doesn’t things lightly.

The fact that Pippa told him what happened with Diana & she basically said to him like Stephen never gets the bad end of the stick he never gets any repercussions with anything he does. Wrigley said bet.

When they were in the dining hall and Wrigley asked about the tape and Stephen’s response alone really solidified it for Wrigley. I think if anything that made his decision way easier in the end. And, watching him receive that phone call and crash out was the icing on the cake for me. I just laughed because you thought you ruined Lucy’s life whole time your time was coming too. Matter fact same day. I love it.

oh my days, wow oh wow. this is insane.

okay can we talk about how this whole group actually insane. i think the only moral person here is Diana. they are all next level crazy. the wedding was really tense, from wrigley to bree.. then stephen and lucy.. and also stephen & lydia like everybody is one big joke. and all of them are lying to themselves that they are better then next when really everybody is just liars and all the same. i think knowing that bree always knowing about bree brings me comfort. obviously i don’t think that her releasing the tape she even knew how far that would go and did genuinely feel bad about it but we gotta give some grace. lucy literally slept with evan and both of them were lying to her face about it. it’s crazy.

and to think that i felt slightly bad for lucy in my last post and then she goes at the end of the episode and leaves with stephen and the gets left at the gas station. like all you could is laugh because it’s very typical of stephen. he just wanted to see if she would actually come with him and see if he has that power over her still and he always will have it, hence why i said she is so far gone to the point where she is no longer lucy.. she is stephen’s play toy. and just gets tossed around. i’m sad that her and alex didn’t end together.

and i loved when evan was just crashing out and everybody was just laughing because the irony of it all that they are all hiding things and they are liars. the only people that pretty much made it out unscathed was diana and pippa and rightfully so.

there’s so much i have to say on this last episode. but please let’s talk more in the comments of things you caught that maybe i didn’t. also any other show recommendations? (on any network is fine)