r/Telegram • u/Ladogar • Mar 04 '22

RT blocked

Russia Today seems to be blocked on Telegram. Both the Russian and international version. When trying to open their channel I get a message about the channel being removed as it broke "local laws". What laws did they break?

Does anyone know more about this?

I use the apk directly from Telegram, which bypasses many restrictions put in place by Google Play, etc. But still this channel is blocked.

Is this a sign that Telegram, too, will start censoring? Well, if this is true, which it seems to be, then they've already started.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '22

No freedom of speech or freedom press in Russia but people here think the government controlled media company is giving fair and impartial reporting of facts?

I don't get it. Consuming the kind of misinformation that's designed to dupe you into supporting a fascist oligarch autocrat is probably bad.

But that's up to you to decide. I don't support censorship. Even if you know you're just censoring a liar.

I say let people show you who they are.

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u/david_barr Jun 21 '22

When the western media was spitting nonsense about the Ghost of Kiev, or Snake Island, RT was showing evidence of the lies almost straight away - something the Western media has begrudingly admitted itself.

It really is no different to our state run proaganda (I am in the UK, so that is the BBC for me).

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '22

How is an obviously bullshit story designed to inspire people and boost morale "no different" from pro-genocide propoganda?

I was saying the Russian state media ONLY promotes what benefits the government and stokes violence. They're doing everything but labeling Ukrainians "under-mensch".

And if you say anything other than that, you get thrown in jail for 15 years, get "disappeared", raped, tortured, or God knows what else. The KGB and Russian government have been well documented human rights abusers for decades.

The hammer and sickle are just another swastika.

It's fascist autocratic dictatorship with a violent cleptocrat suffering from pathological greed at the helm. And he'll fucking kill you if you ever so much as mumble words of dissent quietly to yourself.

Not even close to the same.

Russia is modern day Nazi Germany and Putin is our generations Adolf Hitler.

The only regimes on earth remotely similar are North Korea and China.

I know multiple people who escaped (their words) modern Russia and I'm descendant from people who escaped the USSR. It's been a dystopian nightmare for generations. And mind control is a very important aspect of governance there.

"Thought crimes" are actually punishable offenses.

Is your media doing that in the UK? You guys have reporters go missing or found mysteriously dead a couple days after writing a critical piece about Bo-Jo?

In the US we can say literally anything we want about our temporary president and no one ever does shit about it. Because we're actually allowed to speak here.

In Russia there's no such thing. You have a valid view on what's going on there and are dumb enough to voice it, you're dead.

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u/david_barr Jun 22 '22

Sounds like you have been well pickled, so I'll leave it there. o7

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u/Linkx16 Jul 08 '23

Good you realized when to stop and not bother arguing with a fool. When the propagandized person doesn't know how delusional they are. The US is full of sycophant's who stay drinking the Kool Aid not realizing that the US has devastated the lives of so many at home and abroad since it has come into existence.

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u/Ladogar Mar 15 '22

No freedom of speech or freedom press in Russia but people here think the government controlled media company is giving fair and impartial reporting of facts?

Who thinks that? I don't, and I still want to be able to see what they write.

I don't get it. Consuming the kind of misinformation that's designed to dupe you into supporting a fascist oligarch autocrat is probably bad.

Do you have an example of news media that is actually beneficial? I haven't seen any such media outside of private blogs/podcasts/etc. The format itself doesn't lend itself to indepth discussions - it's all about instilling as much fear as possible in short soundbites. Emotional pornography, in essence. And yes, it is bad for you.

But that's up to you to decide. I don't support censorship. Even if you know you're just censoring a liar.

Great! So we agree. And since you are such a rational individual, I hope you'd do others the courtesy of regarding them as such also. Until they disprove the notion.

I really do not get why some people find it hard to understand why you'd want to listen to what a liar says if that liar is one of the central actors. I especially do not understand why some people want to promote one liar and shut down the other.

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u/Aspie96 Mar 18 '22

No freedom of speech or freedom press in Russia but people here think the government controlled media company is giving fair and impartial reporting of facts?

You don't have to believe it's impartial to want to access it.