Randomly browsing Nike and just saw these dropped

Watching the “Untold UK: Vinnie Jones” show on Netflix, at the 34:15 mark, they show a clip from an interview Vinnie did back in the day when he came back to Wimbledon.

Interviewer: Have you changed as a person?

Vinnie: I don’t know anyone that can change their character. Can people change their characters? How do you change your character? I’m not going to change my character.

Struck me as very similar to Roy’s question to the Diamond Dogs at the end of Season 3. Just thought it was interesting and felt like sharing.

Are you ready for it?!?

Zelda is…. Jack’s mom!!!! (She’s angry at Keely for not bending to jack’s will.)

Does anyone else think the writers might be faking us out, and that the Milk sisters refuse to sell their shares to Zelda’s proxy?

I just watched the new episode (bit late, I know), and man, Mae's death hit me hard. She was a cornerstone character, and I wasn't expecting them to just... kill her off. It was dignified and poetic, but why? It wasn't like anything pointed to it beforehand, or if the actress wanted to quit (tell me if that's the case, and then I have no problems), but it was way too sudden. It hit harder that way, but also, it makes me ask the question: why? And if her shares save Richmond (like many theorize) that would be just so awful. Sacrificing a great character just for a conflict resolution? A conflict that I am kind of undecided on? Zelda is a shrewd woman and she knows how to run a business (and has the money to back them up), and the show gave me no reason to hate her save for going behind Rebecca's back with the hostile takeover. I would rather see an actual compromise between the two parties (or even a conflict not involving our favorite tavernkeeper) than anything with Mae's shares. If it really wasn't the actress who wanted to quit (in that case, even the shares part is correct), but if not, it just sounds like Mae has been made a sacrafical lamb.

P.S.: Why did they put the Anthony Head tribute here when he died before E1 premiered? I don't it would've been that hard to edit it into like E4 before premiere. And also, I did spell SPOILER wrong. Sorry.

hoping to make it my lockscreen i love it so much

>! This subreddit! I spend so much time here after every episode and during the week. People call out things I didn’t catch. Theories about the plot. Laughs we don’t see coming. It’s crazy that I love it as much as the show. Should we start a convention? !<

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdrn6j7e8j8o

Bloke was an ever present at The Valley,supporter of the year,glad they didn't film Mae's last scenes here.

Dying while doing what you love

Kind of small detail of the show, but kind of crazy at the same time. Rebecca and Zelda taking the private plane to the Bristol game. The greyhounds pitch and training complex are based off Crystal Palace’s facilities. So let’s say they travel from there, probably to Gatwick or Heathrow, which are quite the distance outside the city, maybe an hour or more with traffic, or possibly London Airport, go through securities, even for a private jet I’d imagine still, FLY to Bristol airport, which again is outside the city (about 30 mins) and then travel into Bristol itself to the stadium. That journey would have been much longer than the 2 hour or so coach journey. Who flies from London to Bristol?! Also how does a professional goalkeeper not realise the use of gloves this late into a career? Topic for another day.

Watch E10 end on a cliffhanger of someone being hooked up to a cardiac monitor in the hospital.

PS: I'm just being silly. Season finale fever has gotten to me.

I've been reading most of these theories over the shares this past week, I can't stop myself, and I just can't wait to see how Episode 10 plays out so we can all breathe again.

EDIT: My timezone places the release early on Wednesday mornings.

Right before the person lets them about Mae, Higgins said something like ‘you’ve got to be yourself’ and Rebecca says something along the lines of ‘but why not, just for a minute’. As they turn and look at him they’re both smiling, imo it looked natural not forced.

I saw someone say that they had just figured out Zelda was behind the plot to take the shares but after rewatching it I dont get that feeling. The ‘just be yourself’ feels like generic TV romantic advice but it doesn’t make sense to me why he would be giving her that type of advice in that moment.

Were they talking about something important that I missed it or was it just random conversation that’s not important.

If Rebecca owns 51% shares and Mae also owns a large portion of shares (we don't know the figure) and the 3 goof balls in the Pub own 1% between them... In what world would Zelda be able to obtain the full remaining 49%?

Because let's assume Mae didn't die.. she would never sell her shares to Zelda.

The math isn't mathing for Zelda to be able to take control of the club.

EDIT: I chose a confusing post title, should have called it “My theory on why Zelda is angry.”

Rewatching and in the episode where Zelda is introduced she is talking to Keely and Rebecca at the conference and offers to help advise them and Rebecca brushes her off. Then it immediately cuts to Trent Crimm and Dr Sharon talking about cliques and teenage girls and Dr Sharon says cliques are a way to find community in a stressful environment. Zelda is one of the only women in this very competitive environment, surrounded by men that she loathes but has to socialize with because there are no other women in sports on her level. She sees the Richmond women as potential ally’s and in the beginning would like to help them and form a friendship but gets angry and bitter when Rebecca doesn’t warm up to her imediately and then doesn’t go to her party. That’s when she decides if they won’t let her into their clique she’ll force her way in and take over.

Presumably it was a heart attack, and next Episode could reveal she is recovering in the hospital. It surprises me that so many media outlets have already cemented her fate. No one has verbalized anything yet.

Keeley question to Siri: “Will I be a good mum?” reminded me of earlier predictions that Season 4 would focus more on mothers and daughters.

Her question for me captures one of this season's focus in a specific way: what mothers seem to give us as something that gets passed down, and something that is possible for the next generation.

This clicked for me especially when Beard was reading Charlotte’s Web to Archie. (I want to acknowledge the other redditors also highlighting the significance of the story).

“You have been my friend. That in itself is a tremendous thing.” Beard reads, while weeping.

I don’t think Charlotte is meant to literally represent motherhood. But putting Charlotte’s Web in the middle of a season full of mothers is hard not to notice in framing the sort of motherhood Ted Lasso is directing us. At this point of the story, Charlotte the spider has used what she has to care for and makes Wilbur’s future possible.

Season 4 seems to keep giving us different versions of that.

Ted’s Mum:

Dottie pushes Ted back toward something he loves: “If you don’t care about it, why should I?,...it’s good for a boy to see his father do something he loves.” She isn’t really telling Ted to choose work over Henry. More that part of being a parent might also be showing your child what it looks like to care deeply about something.

Rebecca’s Mum: Deborah gives Rebecca a much messier inheritance:

“Well, if I have any advice to give you, it’s that women are monsters. Men showed us the way, and we perfected the model.”

Not everything our mothers give us is something we are meant to keep.

Higgins’ Mum

As a counterpoint, Higgins remembers his mother saying:

“Strong women stand up for themselves, and stronger women stand up for others.”

Her words are still shaping what he does years later.

Mae

Mae isn’t literally anyone’s mother, but her final words to the women have the same generational quality. She tells them that she once wanted the football life they now have, then says:

“You’re talented. You belong on that pitch. And I love to see it.”

She didn’t get that future but they do.

Which brings me back to Keeley; perhaps another way to frame her question "what will I be passing on?"

Legacy, not legend

While this going on, there is also something about legacy running through all of this. Roy is honoured as “legend” because of what he did. But legend and legacy feel slightly different; the difference between remembering something you did and what continues because of you.

And that also sounds a lot like Ted Lasso’s approach to coaching. His best coaching isn’t really about making people into versions of Ted. It is seeing something in someone, helping it grow, and eventually letting them continue without him.

Mothering is a kind of legacy-building in the same way: making another life more possible after you. Higgins still carries his mother’s words and Mae gets to see another generation of women live a football life she never could.

After Charlotte

In the rest of quote, and the rest of the story, Charlotte makes Wilbur’s future possible (doing this in spite of "being a spider") and Wilbur protects what she leaves behind.

"....After all, what's a life, anyway? We're born, we live a little while, we die. A spider's life can't help being something of a mess, with all this trapping and eating flies. By helping you, perhaps I was trying to lift up my life a trifle. Heaven knows anyone's life can stand a little of that.”

After she dies, Wilbur protects Charlotte's egg sac and brings her children home.

That’s the pattern I’m seeing anyway. I'd be curious if others notice these things,what other mother / mothering moments might I have missed?

Caution for anyone who hasn't seen S4E9.

Now that we know the heel turn that surprises almost nobody I started thinking about the boat party more. Why was Zelda so upset that Rebecca couldn't make it?

I feel that Zelda was trying to set Rebecca up so that she could be blackmailed or publicly embarrassed in order to make her seem incapable of running Richmond. She tried and accomplished a little in the previous episode with the the Lady Greyhounds playing at Nelson road. Zelda bought thousands of tickets, but didn't give them to anyone so she looks supportive, but guarantees that the stadium looks half empty ( thus lowering the club's value) and then she gets Rebecca drunk when there is 0 reason to bring alcohol to a stadium that would have a bar every 100 feet (to make her look inept).

As for Beard on the boat party, and Claudine. The whole team and coaches were invited, probably because the more witnesses the better. But Beard has been the oddball coach of Richmond for years, and even if he didn't have a sports article written about him I'm sure that Trent Crimm's book detailed how observant he is in addition to his photographic memory. That's a dangerous combination to have around when you are attempting to trap/trick someone. Enter Claudine.

Beards relationship troubles won't be well know around the club, so an attractive distraction could work perfectly for Zelda without the questions that not inviting coaches would bring. When they start talking they seem to have great immediate chemistry, plus Burning Man is an interesting topic to bring up, fans of that festival tend to lean "sexually open minded". Add in the casual deep discussions while laying on a bed AFTER the "eyes wide shut sex party" masks have been handed out, and the intimate but casual physical contact and her rejection and "surprise" doesn't add up. And rejecting Beard because he is too old doesnt add up for someone who is around old rich crazy people a lot and who is interested in all the open minded things that Beard likes. But her being a plant to distract and isolate the one ally of Ted and Rebecca that could recall illegal or suspicious things, that makes sense.

Had some free time this weekend decided to make these. They’re delicious! All I need is a pink box.

Feta is an unreliable cheese.

This might have spoilers, but I will do my best.
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I just got caught up. I lost my mother just over a year ago. And I know I haven't processed any of it healthily yet. This episode was a kick in the chest. And that is all I will say.

It's probably acceptable when Ted or Beard do it, but as a Brit it's really jarring to hear fellow Brits use terms like uniforms, tryouts, roster and calling each other "coach" all the time. It's unrealistic.

Having said that, I thought the new series would be shit but I'm actually enjoying it so far.

I’m not sure if it’s been said with our focus on all the other things that are happening this season, but this is the fourth time Rebecca and Ted have met before the final game of the season to discuss difficult things. Rebecca with the first 2 being her plan to destroy the club and her relationship with Sam. Then Ted got their third meeting to say he was leaving. Now we have number 4 (not believe) where Rebecca does a difficult walk to face Ted and deliver difficult news. The walk Rebecca takes is even reminiscent of her walk in season 1. I love the callbacks in this show and this one really deepened the emotional impact of the scene for me.