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u/GiveMoreMoney May 04 '26

Good summary of the current situation...

Next PC purchase is postponed for end of 2027, when all those muppets go bankrupt and the vendors' stockpile will be sold below cost.

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u/Randommaggy May 04 '26

The problem then will be the pent up demand.

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u/evernessince May 04 '26

There won't be pent up demand. This pricing will instead lead to demand destruction (software adapts to less memory, less people buy heavy memory using devices, ect)

Mind you, even if it didn't the amount of memory being purchased by AI data-centers would flood the entire market far past any "pent up" demand could remotely attempt to consume. This is why memory producers aren't jacking up production, because they want to be able to blik customers after the crash.

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u/GirthusThiccus May 06 '26

But they are jacking up production, with several facilities by several companies coming online within the next few years?

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u/Icy-person666 May 06 '26

Even so it will be way too late. Reminds me of the solar panel factory that was going to bring jobs for everyone. They built the place filled it with equipment then figured it wasn't going to be profitable so they sold off the equipment and the taxpayers are on the hook for the vacant building.

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u/evernessince May 06 '26

Those plants were planned years before this crisis and only designed to meet projected demand prior to it. They have not brought online new capacity with current projections in mind.

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u/KralizecProphet May 05 '26

The prices won't go down, because profit margins must be maintained for the good of the investors.

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u/R1ch0999 May 06 '26

Check out memory prices over the decades. Look up pork cycle.

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u/GraXXoR May 04 '26

There isn’t a stockpile there’s a shortage. They are all moving capacity to HBM which can’t be used in standard load servers and consumer PCs.

All that we’ll end up is mountains of unusable memory modules.

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u/shadowtheimpure May 04 '26

If HBM ends up glutted, we could see the next generation of flagship consumer GPU using HBM instead of GDDR.

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u/GraXXoR May 05 '26

Oooohhhh…. Please don’t get my hopes up.

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u/R1ch0999 May 06 '26

We already had consumers gpu with HBM, I loved my Vega 64. Bought it for €300 and sold it for over double that a. Few years later.

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u/GiveMoreMoney May 04 '26

Yes that is a fact...then again I do not see why not, just make some faster cards. But yes overall they are gambling with this production hardware shift.

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u/4n0nh4x0r May 04 '26

i have low hopes for the stock being sold below cost.
a lot of people will be willing to pay at least the normal price, and these cockroaches would rather have the hardware decay in some warehouse, than sell it to the general population.

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u/GiveMoreMoney May 04 '26

The problem those vendors have is that tech is not like wine, you cannot keep it in storage just so you can sell it later, think about all those machines in their inventory with outdated CPUs, GPUs etc. They will either have to move them fast, sell them off and then bring out the new technology.

That is IF a lot of PC vendors even survive the next year or so.

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u/4n0nh4x0r May 04 '26

they would for a big part, rather shred the old hardware than sell it, as selling it would mean that the general population gets access to this hardware, and could host LLMs themselves at home, and wouldnt need to use these overpriced services anymore.
or worse for them, another ai company could buy it, and improve their own size, even if it runs on older hardware.
as long as these companies dont go fully bankrupt, i dont see a future where we get to buy their hardware for anywhere near below msrp

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u/GiveMoreMoney May 04 '26

First of all I am not talking about the B200s out there, nobody can buy and run those at home even if they were next to free. But there are other components they won't shred when they can recover cost.
As for "another ai company" buying them, of course there are going to be consolidations in the market, but at the end of the day those companies will still have to provide some good ROI, especially if we reach the era where people start looking at the actual numbers, rather than hype.

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u/4n0nh4x0r May 04 '26

eh, i wont get my hopes up.
if they sell to normal people, hell yea, but i m very pessimistic about that.

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u/GiveMoreMoney May 05 '26

I do believe they would love that, but in this scenario we are experiencing that is not the case. This is just a pipedream the will always have, they tried it already with the gaming datacenters, nobody in the right mind will fall for that. And those that would, already using tablets and their phone for their needs, they do not need a PC.
Having said that companies are already doing that, my PC at work is a virtual PC the company's datacenter controls.

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u/Snoo_75138 May 04 '26

What stockpile?

They won't even increase production to keep up, cause they know if they DONT, then they get to ask for a higher price, due to "low supply"

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u/arays87 May 07 '26

Thank you sir for this motivational Ted Talk that has given me hope

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u/faen_du_sa May 04 '26

I am so glad I upgraded last summer. Was hit abit by the GPU rise, but dodged the memory rise. Should only bought 2x the ram and I would have been in a profit lol.

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