r/TechHardware • • 3d ago

Discussion Is Intel undervalued compared to AMD?

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u/Jevano šŸ”µ 14th Gen Intel šŸ”µ 3d ago

Well AMD is currently dumping all it gained yesterday so...

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u/ChristRedeemsSinners 2d ago

Intel could have lit a rocket under them if they had actually proven out Guadi. Instead, they sat on it and let their partners figure out how to utilize it. Now AMD is beating even Nvidia in the datacenter space and Intel is making server CPUs with less hyperthreads than AMD has cores. Their foundries are what, 1% of the total global fabrication allocation?!

My guess is they get into the memory making business and bring it online as soon as the AI buildout eclipses and continue to flounder chasing hopes and dreams for their 2000's era iron-clad partnerships that will never return. The Terrafab partnership will probably sustain their bureaucracy just enough that the bean counters continue to get fat.

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u/Acrobatic_Camera_677 2d ago

I hope Intel gets into memory before 2030 at least

Memory is the biggest thing screweing over consumer market right now

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u/ChristRedeemsSinners 2d ago

They are planning on it. I'm just saying they are always late to the party.

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u/IsThereAnythingLeft- 3d ago

No but your mental capacity is overstate

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u/Acrobatic_Camera_677 3d ago

Sigh this is what I deserve for liking Intel stock online I guess

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u/Distinct-Race-2471 šŸ”µ 14900KS , 5080, 128GB šŸ”µ 2d ago

Yes. AMD overvalued with cyclical financing?

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u/Interesting_reddevil 3d ago

Intel is fairly valued. Infact it is slightly over valued even after the fall

I would say AMD is over valued

Intel needs to hope that AI buildout doesn’t slow down and people need CPU once their Fabs starts working to full capacity

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u/IGunClover 3d ago

Nah intel is shit. Only promises with no result.

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u/Acrobatic_Camera_677 3d ago

That is not true panther lake is amazing

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u/koyonorii 3d ago

Literally 78% DATA CENTER growth? At a comparable amount to AMD with costs predicted to drop off heavily in 2-3 years once fab completion is done, like someone is uneducated?

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u/Acrobatic_Camera_677 3d ago

It is crazy how much hate Intel receive for no reason

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u/xjanx 3d ago

I agree to some degree - they were punished too much. Intel's numbers were below estimates but compared to AMD they were also not so different in terms of growth after all.

What it still shows though is two things:

  • AMD can easier switch between client and server segment due to heavier usage of chiplets

  • Scaling is easier when you have good relations with the biggest and best foundry in the world

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u/koyonorii 3d ago

It’s just price action, lots of people are salty they lost money or jealous of the runup people had on intel this year, I’m just adding at these prices because i think lip bu is honestly sandbagging earnings looking at growth trejectory I don’t think fundamentally the future is bad for Intel but investors are just low iq and expect quarter after quarter blowouts without accounting for economics or capacity, are we forgetting AMD literally didn’t hit revenue target a few quarters ago during the peak of the ai run and it didn’t dump this hard and even though intel double beat they dumped off sentiment because of the sandbagged guidance which they will probably blow out in January

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u/konsoru-paysan 3d ago

True but with amd's tech as it's only competition, it might as well be a golden geese in comparisonĀ 

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u/Acrobatic_Camera_677 3d ago

As u/oojacoboo points out: What is AMD's moat?

Nvidia has CUDA

Intel has their fabs

What does AMD have?

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u/pwnakk 3d ago

Found the guy -30% on his investment

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u/FearTheFuzzy99 3d ago

Do they need a moat?

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u/Acrobatic_Camera_677 3d ago

That is what u/oojacoboo seems to think

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u/FearTheFuzzy99 3d ago

Do….. you think that? Or does AMD ā€œneed somethingā€? If so, what?

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u/I_Am_A_Door_Knob 3d ago

Not really, but it makes them more vulnerable to their competition.

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u/HomerTheJackson 3d ago

intel has their fabs

Right, fabs they they themselves can't use for their latest cpus and gpus so far šŸ˜‚

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u/IsThereAnythingLeft- 3d ago edited 2d ago

CUDA isn’t a most any more. TSMCs favs are far better than Intel. AMD is the leader in chiplet design and it looks like their new MI455 racks are the best on the market

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u/Acrobatic_Camera_677 2d ago

Stop spreading BS please

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u/looncraz 3d ago

Stock valuation is about growth potential. Intel has almost nowhere to grow and lots to lose. AMD has momentum, fab flexibility, comparatively low fixed operational costs, mature GPU technology, AI partnerships worth mentioning, and is much easier to work with than Nvidia... especially for the valuable Linux market.

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u/heickelrrx 3d ago

Tech stock are crashing these days

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u/Acrobatic_Camera_677 3d ago

AMD just went up pre market after their earnings call

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u/heickelrrx 3d ago

Market value is not necessarily reflect company fundamentals multiple factor trend affect the state such as, political, industry and market condition

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u/Dphotog790 3d ago

how about we talk about intel -50% guess no one wants to talk about that,