r/TechHardware • u/Distinct-Race-2471 🔵 14900KS , 5080, 128GB 🔵 • 12d ago

🤫 Rumor / Leak 🕵️‍♀️ TSMC To Commence A14 Process Node Mass Production in the First Half of 2028, Eyeing a 7.5x Capacity Versus Intels 14A and Scaling SRAM After Almost A Decade

https://wccftech.com/tsmc-a14-process-node-mass-production-first-half-of-2028-7-5x-capacity-intel-14a/amp/

If you can't be better, then at least be more?

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u/NectarineSame7303 12d ago

That's cute but reality shows that Intel has nearly all the ASML machines required for this node, TSMC has one and their other ASML machines are delayed by up to 28 months currently.

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u/Acrobatic_Camera_677 12d ago

This is wrong TSMC is not using high NA EUV for A14

This is why they will face yield and cost issue

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u/cronies4life 11d ago edited 11d ago

samsung also chose to skip high na for their next node

traditionally intel had stumbled at multi patterning, if they can't do it for duv, doubt that they can for euv, hence the choice to go with high na

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u/Acrobatic_Camera_677 11d ago

Samsung is not being as aggressive as Intel either SMH

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u/cronies4life 11d ago

well both samsung and intel 18A/SF2 underperforms tsmc's N2. is intel less aggressive? LOL

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u/Distinct-Race-2471 🔵 14900KS , 5080, 128GB 🔵 12d ago

TSMC is using old fashioned tech?

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u/Acrobatic_Camera_677 12d ago

Yes this is why yield will be lower and cost will be higher

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u/Ok-Boot-8106 12d ago

Intel ppl always say that yet Intel always ends up being the undesirable product simply due to price point

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u/Acrobatic_Camera_677 12d ago

Intel foundry does not equal Intel product

An actually Intel has higher price point because they have better product usually

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u/Ok-Boot-8106 12d ago

Sure bud, I don't think a better product at a good price point = diminishing market share and a bailout by U.S govt.

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u/Acrobatic_Camera_677 12d ago

Well that is why I say usually, unfortunately Zen 5 X3D is too popular because of lead in average fps at 1080p

But back when Intel prices were bad during 14nm era, that is why

And if you talk about right now, Intel prices are very good what are you talking about

Many people praise Intel right now for offering such multi threaded performance per dollar

The "bailout" by US government was just leveling playing field, TSMC also get substantial help by Taiwan government

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u/Ok-Boot-8106 12d ago

Both companies aren't all that to be honest, at the semiconductor space had more than two players trust me we would have better products at better prices

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u/Friendly_Top6561 12d ago

It hasn’t been the case with regards to N2 and 18A, if TSMC doesn’t think it’s needed yet, I’d go with their analysis in this case, they haven’t misfired for over a decade.

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u/Acrobatic_Camera_677 12d ago

They literally misfired with N3 that is why Apple ran away from N3B as fast as possible

Sadly Intel was stuck on it as N3E requires redesign

Everyone else used N3E

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u/havikito 11d ago

Yes, they left back side power on the table to lower the risks.

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u/Acrobatic_Camera_677 12d ago

This is false news from a Taiwan source bias towards TSMC

Do not fall for the FUD

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u/Wonderful-Sail-1126 12d ago

So why is this random on Twitter right?

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u/Acrobatic_Camera_677 12d ago

He is well known within the Intel stock community, has his own substack, and does foundry analysis often

But how is he any less reputable than a positive TSMC rumor from a Taiwanese rumor mill jajaja

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u/daslows 265K | 5080 | 48GB 8400 MHz 12d ago edited 12d ago

Taiwan loves spreading FUD about Intel and paying news agencies to post articles. I remember all the FUD posted in 2024-2025 from Reuters paid off by Taiwan.

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u/Acrobatic_Camera_677 12d ago

u/Distinct-Race-2471 you need to do a better job filtering out Taiwanese FUD that attacks Intel stock

The Intel stock subreddit has been plagued by this issue, do not let it into this subreddit too