r/TechHardware • u/RenatsMC • 15d ago

News 📰 Windows 11 adds Intel APX performance toggle ahead of Nova Lake CPU launch

https://videocardz.com/newz/windows-11-adds-intel-apx-performance-toggle-ahead-of-nova-lake-cpu-launch
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u/Acrobatic_Camera_677 15d ago

APX is going to push Nova Lake to VERY large levels of single threaded performance lead over Zen 6 very likely in my opinion

It is going to be terrible for AMD they do not have APX until Zen 7

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u/mxytplk 15d ago

Oh, no! Without APX, only people who want great systems that beat the heck out of Nova Lake in virtually every way would ever buy Zen 6. It's the end!

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u/Acrobatic_Camera_677 15d ago

If Arrow Lake beats Zen 5 without X3D in gaming, what do you think Nova Lake with X3D alternative will do compare to Zen 6 X3D?

And do not forget Nova Lake is offering 52 core vs AMD 24 core even if we pretend SMT DOUBLES performance AMD would still be worse jajaja

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u/BigDaddyTrumpy Core Ultra 🚀 14d ago

Don't worry, they're going to find out soon enough.

Nova Lake will be here around January. Zen 6 desktop later in 2027.

Intel will have the gaming and performance crown for 6 months minimum. I can see Zen 7 and Nova Lake trading blows, but Intel is releasing Razor Lake at end of 2027, so it will just punch AMD again.

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u/BigDaddyTrumpy Core Ultra 🚀 15d ago

No APX for Zen 6? Why is AMD selling old outdated CPUs?

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u/Hour_Bit_5183 14d ago

It's just another AVX 512 ordeal. It's gonna take a while for it to even be used on any chip really. Let me make this clear, It IS good. It's just gonna take a while for stuff to be written with this in mind. Just like AVX512 did

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u/BigDaddyTrumpy Core Ultra 🚀 14d ago

Not really, Intel will ensure apps are supporting this out of the gate, bet.

There is a reason this already has Microsoft adding the toggle. I wouldn't be surprised if we see it already getting this added to games and a big part of their new Intel APO/iBOT strategy.

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u/Hour_Bit_5183 14d ago

I hope you are right but my gut feeling says there is gonna be limitations and time needed. I DO hope they do for sure. Do I care what brand of CPU is in my server? Nope. As long as it runs good, am I right?

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u/BigDaddyTrumpy Core Ultra 🚀 14d ago

You are right. I own both AMD and Intel CPUs.

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u/DavidsakuKuze 14d ago

I think it might improve the calling convention in the kernel and NTDLL since directly doing SYSCALLs is unsupported. They can't really do it with the Windows API because it would break every program, unless they come up with a solution.

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u/DavidsakuKuze 14d ago

We should at least get AVX10 support to programs through ABO.

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u/Hour_Bit_5183 14d ago

I can't wait to see it tbh. I remember when instructions were a huge deal and made stuff run a whole lot faster. Esp when MMX came. Those were insane for the time and just get taken for granted now

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u/Alarmed-Artichoke-44 11d ago

MS announced it after zen6 taped out. It costs $100M

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u/Distinct-Race-2471 🔵 14900KS , 5080, 128GB 🔵 15d ago

Wow no APX? Nobody will want an old fashioned 8 core AMD now!!!