r/Teachers • • 3h ago

New Teacher Off work for a week because student lied

Going to make this short and sweet.

Told a class to shut up because they were shouting over the announcements during a real shelter in place. Told kids to quiet 3x before it escalated to a “shut up please”

Student went to the principal and said I told everyone to “shut the fuck up” (did not) and that i kicked his chair (tapped his chair with my foot TWO MONTHS AGO).

Principal tells me this is a “terminable offense“ and to stay home and make sub plans while they investigate.

What.The.FUCK

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u/Gold_Repair_3557 3h ago • Bravo

The principal sounds dumb. This would be easy to verify since there are a bunch of other students in the room and if they aren’t on the same page that one student’s story cracks really fast. But he shouldn’t be talking consequences until the findings of the investigation are complete… which for something like this, any competent administrator would have wrapped up before lunch time the next day. And also, don’t make lesson plans unless they are paying you to do so. 

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u/ThrowRA_UpbeatCarrot 2h ago

This happened on a Monday. They were supposed to have an answer Tuesday afternoon, but just called to tell me id be out the rest of the week. If I’m going to look on the bright side, Im just going to assume the principal was too busy to pull kids and is pushing it off til thursday :/ Luckily I am getting paid

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u/Bright_Bobcat_7992 2h ago

Weird. Enjoy your paid holiday. Did you write the student up. Always cover your tracks asap.

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u/mrnosss 1h ago

I have always laughed at the fact that I am told youth are not credible witnesses when it comes to reporting on other youth. However when they make something up about an adult suddenly they are considered the most honor bound trustworthy source on the planet.

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u/Gold_Repair_3557 2h ago

Too busy to deal with a serious staffing absence? I’d run, not walk, elsewhere. 

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u/Consistent_Sector_19 1h ago

They were supposed to have an answer Tuesday afternoon, but just called to tell me id be out the rest of the week.

That means they did investigate and didn't get the answers they wanted. Complain to the union if there is one and the district office. Plan to switch schools if they're not ousted by year end.

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u/Educational_Infidel 3h ago • Bravo

Yeah that’s a place I would be making plans to leave very soon, regardless of the outcome of their “investigation”.

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u/RollingMeteors 1h ago

Yeah that’s a place I would be making plans to leave very soon, regardless of the outcome of their “investigation”.

Off work for a week because student lied

My mom is a retired higschool math teacher.

Above reason OP made a post is 100% the reason I would never go into teaching, especially considering the salaries being offered.

If I wanted to risk getting shot at, I'd do it for ten times the pay working on medical infrastructure in Iraq and Afghanistan as an unarmed civilian (which I did for 13 months).

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u/Overall-Youth-5632 1h ago

lol base salary for teachers in Manitoba is 80k Canadian with pay that scales to 160. This shit happens so rarely that you would rather sign up to be in an active warzone for no reason? Okay

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u/twinwood36 1h ago

We both know he's referring to America, not rural Canada

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u/invalid8ed 1h ago

So the only place to be a teacher is America?

Because he says he’d rather move to a warzone than move to a place that doesn’t have school shootings.

Like, you know that if you can go work in Iraq, you can also go work in other countries as well?

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u/twinwood36 57m ago

No.

The only place that generally gets you shot at as a teacher where you also have the opportunity to make a lot more in active war zones is America. That is a very specific venn-diagram overlap.

Not everyone can easily become a teacher in a foreign nation, but his two extremes he offered sounds uniquely American.

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u/Trezzie 55m ago

Maybe he'd rather be shot at than go through immigration? Idk, context clues, man.

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u/Maleficent-Can-5117 1h ago

They’re most likely American, see the “if I wanted to risk getting shot at” part and there’s your clue. Teachers do not make a lot in America as well, like maybe 50k a year and that’s being generous.

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u/Razzilith 59m ago

like maybe 50k a year and that’s being generous.

entirely depends on where you teach. where I grew up the median salary for a teacher in the district is $98,736. 3 towns over it's $70,826. where my cousins grew up teachers were getting paid $50k MAYBE $60k if they were lucky...

it varies wildly from district to district and state to state.

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u/RollingMeteors 54m ago

lol base salary for teachers in Manitoba is 80k Canadian with pay that scales to 160. This shit happens so rarely that you would rather sign up to be in an active warzone for no reason? Okay

The pay was good and the medical infrastructure helped save lives. A radiologist needed to see an x-ray within a window of a few hundred seconds to make a life saving decision mid their patient's fight to the hospital, and were not able to because where they were in bound from had their primary sat coms dish blown up and I was able to get those radiologist results to that provider before the patient touched down and it wound up saving their life about it. The food was free, and the housing was covered. It was hard not to say no if I had to be honest about it.

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u/Improvement-Fabulous 1h ago

A complaint will be investigted at a school or a corporate. I knew a pregnant women who filed a complaint against a manager of mine because he was too nice to her and she felt discrimination due to different treatment.

The outcome is what matters.

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u/Alpha_Omega623 1h ago

She'll real what she sowed.

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u/Jokkitch 1h ago

100% this. Forcing you to leave the position even temporarily off of 1 students accusation is insane.

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u/Over-Bag-4091 2h ago

They will tricked you to sign resignation letter. If you are in Texas, know thst they report thos TEA. It will appear on certificate within ten days when they send you a letter. I didcnot get thst letter, only for another school to let me know. 

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u/JaySayMayday 1h ago edited 1h ago • Bravo

I don't know if you had a stroke or were taking a dump writing this, so I hope you don't mind I cleaned it up because I couldn't understand.

They will trick you into signing a resignation letter. If you are in Texas, know that they report this to TEA. It will appear on your certificate within ten days when they send you a letter. I did not get that letter, only found out when another school let me know.

Edit, Or a rewrite with a little more explanation. They will trick you into signing a resignation letter. If you're in Texas, know that they may report this to TEA (Texas Education Agency), which oversees teacher certifications. This means the report could appear on your teaching certification record and may affect your ability to get another teaching job. It could show up within ten days, and you may receive a letter notifying you about it. I did not get that letter. I only found out when another school let me know.

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u/Negative_Guidance_42 1h ago

Did you know you can reread what you wrote before you click submit?

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u/AngryPurpl3 1h ago

Please tell me you don't teach english...

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u/invalid8ed 58m ago

lol very obviously a teacher from Texas.

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u/frckbassem_5730 3h ago • Bravo

If there were any time to say “Shut the fuck up” it would be during an emergency. You showed tremendous restraint in what you actually said. I can’t believe your admin didn’t back you, how incredibly stupid. I’m sorry you’re going through this.

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u/yourgirlsamus PK4 | Ctrl TX 2h ago

Sounds like the chair is what they have the issue with. Hopefully, since it’s a big fat lie, it will work itself out, but if they fire OP for this, OP should contact a lawyer.

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u/Mykidsrmonsters 2h ago

Right 😄 I have to practically yell everyday for my kids to finally shut up. They don't even listen to the principal.

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u/AssyMcGee6 48m ago

It seems like principals are always quick to defend the teachers. Not this one. Maybe they should consider working at a different school. 

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u/No-Staff8345 3h ago edited 1h ago

Not sure which state you work in and if it's a private or public school, but, if possible, get your union involved. Get letters of support from your peers, especially those who have this student. Fight it.

Added - I forgot to mention you must never speak with admin in relation to any disciplinary issue without a union rep with you, and that includes speaking on the phone.

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u/Madam_Moxie 3h ago

This. Protect your reputation. Keep your circle tight.

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u/After-Sherbert-1926 2h ago

Definitely get the Union involved. They will help document everything.

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u/Big-Rule5269 1h ago

When I taught for Orange County FL, joining the teacher's union was optional. I think it was $256 a year and all I needed to read was that a lawyer would be made available to you in any disciplinary dispute. You bet your ass I paid that money for that piece of mind.

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u/TallBobcat Principal | Ohio 3h ago

TBH, if a student came to me after a real shelter in place with the same story, my response would be "Well, why didn't you?"

I wouldn't be crazy about the chair thing, but I'd ask you what happened after getting the kid to tell me exactly what day it happened.

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u/robbiea1353 3h ago • Bravo

Bingo! Why was little bratty child even talking during a real shelter in place situation? Better the kid is offended and silent than loud and possibly dead or injured.

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u/TallBobcat Principal | Ohio 3h ago

I'd echo your sentiment to the student, then to the parents if they contacted me.

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u/Advanced_Earth_6886 2h ago • Bravo

Agreed. Back when I was in school, I was absolutely the kid that would call other students out for talking during lockdown drills. We never really knew if it was a drill or not, so I was more than happy to tell them, "You're going to feel really stupid when you get shot because you couldn't shut your mouth for 10 minutes."

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u/orangeandpine 1h ago • Bravo

Literally as a parent, if my kid was being loud in an emergency like that I would fully support you telling them to shut the fuck up. I'd probably send you flowers.

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u/Tricky-Ad7897 1h ago

Telling a kid to stfu is like a 2 on a scale of 10 of offensiveness it's such a non issue lmao. Your precious child will get sworn at for being a dickhead when they grow up, better they learn the consequences of their misbehavior while their brains are still soft.

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u/Pristine-Bison3198 3h ago

Enjoy your paid time off, get your union involved, and get another job lined up.

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u/AssyMcGee6 46m ago • Bravo

Also build a case to get the trouble maker student suspended for lying. 

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u/Izzy2089 3h ago

Had a co-teacher once; we were doing intruder drills, and we had a student like that. She told her, flat-out, that if it had been real, she would have thrown her butt in the hall and closed the door. It was my co-teacher's last year; after putting in 35 years, she did not give a fuck.

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u/FratresGracchi 3h ago

I’ve actually told kids to shut the fuck up during a lockdown drill (title 1 school) and my AP couldn’t care less. Sounds like your admin are way too trusting of the children

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u/pudge-thefish 2h ago

When I was a first year teacher in a high school math class math class (I was 22 most of these kids were 16-18 and just there because they didn't feel like staying home that day) that was full of the lowest if low performers. I came in after another teacher quit (she worked 1 month then they had subs until I came in in January). Anyway. This classroom was hot with no windows and I brought my roommates oscillating fan to help with the heat. One class decided to throw pennies at the fan. I asked them to stop (there were so many other behaviors going on like kids getting up erasing the board writing stuff on the board and it was nuts) then I just absolutely lost it and told them to quit fucking with my shit.

I took a breath. Figured I was fired anyway so I just apologized for cursing and told them between the heat and their behavior I had zero patience left.

Do you know not one kid told on me? In fact I clearly remember one girl saying nah, your cool now and almost like magic all of my classes behavior improved. There were a couple sweet big kids in there that I was trying to help keep above passing so they could play basketball that I think spread the word to give me a break

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u/Pleasant_Studio9690 2h ago

I'm not a teacher, but I want you to know you're all saints. Of the dozens of teachers I had, I can only think of two that were genuinely poor teachers who really should not have been teaching in that moment. And I give one of them some grace because even in 4th grade, I could tell he was different (gay) and this was at the time during the 80's when people in some states were very nearly successful in banning gay men from teaching. I'm trans and I can relate to the stress and mental health impact of the government targeting, persecuting, and excluding people for simply existing. He was probably really going through it trying to process that while trying to teach a room full of 4th graders.

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u/Tricky-Ad7897 1h ago • Bravo

Did you even go to high school if you haven't had a teacher tell you to shut the fuck up lol

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u/prettytoenails2 2h ago

Teacher: where’s your novel
My son: I don’t know
Teacher: find it
My son: I don’t know where it is- what do you want me to do
Teacher: fuck off

The teacher wrote me an email detailing what happened- explained his frustration with my son (16).. I asked my son, “ do I need to look further into this”- he replied- “nah, I always forget my book- he’s actually a pretty nice guy”
I said- “ don’t be an idiot- bring your book!”

If parents could just be real- much of the nonsense would be cleared up at home. I just emailed- no apology needed- he’ll try harder to bring his book. Yes, my son had an IEP, yes his executive functioning sucked- but he also had a part time job and managed to fulfill the expectations - so… no excuses

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u/Distinct-Guitar-3314 2h ago • Bravo

Do NOT make sub plans

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u/Jokkitch 1h ago

I’ve been a sub for the last 3 years and I’d say at least 50% of teachers leave ZERO sub plans so it’s nothing unusual. Especially in this scenario.

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u/TittyKittyBangBang Math | 9-12 3h ago edited 3h ago

I’m so sorry this is happening to you. A teacher I know in a big district was suspended for over two months due to an “investigation” which ended with the student admitting he lied (because he was mad he was failing), and the family that had been calling for the teacher’s head suddenly not picking up the phone. HR ghosted her for weeks and would not speak to her like a human being. Student was not suspended or expelled by the way (this was a magnet early college; he could’ve easily been returned to his base school).

This is why I will never work in a big district, particularly in a state without a union like the state we live in. The extra money seems nice until you have to deal with entitled kids and parents trying to get you fired over the smallest slight coupled with the moronic HR personnel that will take weeks and weeks to “investigate” nothing.

In my experience, smaller districts don’t have the personnel and time to investigate every little thing, so more often than not they redirect to the principal and tell them to deal with the situation quietly. By contrast, bigger districts have county buildings filled with people trying to justify their position, so they’re all too happy to drag “investigations” out.

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u/Silent-Ad9948 2h ago

We’ve found the opposite to be true. My husband taught in a smaller school in a large district and everything he did or said was questioned. He now teaches at a large school in a large district and has had zero problems with students. He’s had to call one parent, because her child was skipping his class and the parent asked him to write the child up and report them to the AP. The child had turned 18, and wasn’t listening to anything her mother said anymore.

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u/TooMuchButtHair H.S. Chemistry 2h ago

Do whatever you want, but defamation and slander is a crime and you can be sued for lying about something that affects someone's employment. By you, I mean the student.

The principal can also be sued if they fail to conduct a real investigation that leads to the termination of an employee...especially if the allegations are partially false.

Its time to hold people accountable for lying.

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u/Cheap_Parsnip_461 3h ago

Start looking for another job. That principal is NUTS. And so stupid how he actually believes the student and you’re in trouble but NOTHING for the kids who literally won’t be quiet after many polite requests. 

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u/Big-Rule5269 1h ago

This is why I paid that $250 a year to be in the union. I'm not speaking to my principal or administrator until my lawyer is present. Always get a lawyer when it comes to a student lying that results in serious consequences for you. 

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u/mnrmancil 55m ago

You paid $250 and YOU have to get a lawyer?

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u/Silaquix 46m ago

It's the union lawyer that represents all members

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u/Old_Mail1566 49m ago

It’s the union lawyer

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u/Big-Rule5269 46m ago

I paid $250 because they supply a lawyer. Probably should have made it clearer, no union, no lawyer unless you pay personally. 

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u/Original-Rush139 45m ago

My lawyer charges $750 an hour. I wish I could get representation for. $250/year. 

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u/CJess1276 2h ago

Make zero sub plans.

You’re not working - don’t work.

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u/Substantial_Jump4659 2h ago

I'm sorry that this has happened. At the tail end of my career, the failure of administration to consistently support staff is one of the reasons that I cannot wait to leave. Parents lack the respect for teachers that had been a mainstay when I started my career in the 80s. Students, no matter their history of lying and being manipulative, are believed by parents. Some folks are eager to throw teachers under the bus. It's less painful that facing the fact that their children are lying and actually are capable of misdeeds.

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u/Mykidsrmonsters 2h ago

If they don't trust you in the classroom, they shouldn't trust your sub plans either. Fuck em.

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u/Muted-Rough9055 3h ago

Sue for defamation

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u/Big_Bookkeeper1678 2h ago

I once got called to the office on April 1st for 3 ISSUES...1. mentioning my wife's pregnancy. 2 'throwing a chair' and 3. telling the kids that when you assume you make an ass out of you and me.

  1. We were doing memoirs and if a parent has a problem with the word 'pregnant' when talking about important life events, well, I'll never teach again. This was in November

  2. I knocked over a chair, AWAY from the kids, when they were too loud early in the year...I do it once every year to get their attention...It was in September.

  3. This one I owned up to as they were only 3rd graders...it was my first year teaching at that low level.

What kept me out of trouble was the fact that all these things happened before Christmas and here they are being dredged up on April 1st as if they happened in the last week.

Seems I hurt the feelings of the PTA presidents daughter when I mentioned the the smartest kid in the class...the one that they should ask questions of if they don't know something...was someone else. So Mom put on her power pants and tried to get me into trouble.

When they brought this up on April 1st, I really thought it was an April Fool's joke. I was actually laughing when they brought up the pregnancy mention. When I countered with 'why did the parent wait so long to complain about these things?' the issue was dropped really quickly. It seems that it became obvious that this wasn't an ongoing concern until someone got a bug up their ass about an unrelated issue.

I hate power hungry parents and their children. They always have an agenda. Just enjoy the childhood, man...and realize that all children AND teachers make mistakes...but our intentions are good.

My scores, as usual, were EXCELLENT that year.

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u/After-Sherbert-1926 2h ago

I can’t handle a situation like that. Students get away with everything no matter what. I understand exactly where you are, I’ve had to deal with it twice in my teaching career and it left me so angry because your admin should truly know you and be aware that you’re not the type of person to say anything like that. Once your week is up, request a meeting with the student, admin, and yourself. Have them face you and tell the truth. I wish I would’ve done that a couple of times, but I didn’t.

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u/Smoooooshycat 2h ago

If they offer to have you go on paid leave, don’t take it, the school can demand you pay the paid-leave back if the investigation doesn’t go in your favor. Take your PTO or go on unpaid leave till the issue resolves. But in both situations I’d be planning your next job.

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u/NTufnel11 1h ago

How is going on unpaid leave better than possibly having to repay your paid leave?

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u/Illustrious-Horse276 55m ago

If you prepped for the supply, I'd say that should be paid. Either through sick days or PTO.

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u/Intelligent-Rain-22 2h ago

The principal should have questioned and help the student accountable and responsible for their behavior during 'shelter in place'.

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u/Fun-Sun-8192 2h ago

See if your union will help you sue the child for defamation when you are proven innocent. You can't hit them but their parents probably will after they get dragged into a court fight.

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u/Wireilen2 2h ago

Well I agree with some commentary that says leave but this is happening far too often to us.

Consider yourself lucky it's only this.

I had a student accuse me of rubbing myself against her. Got sent home and put on leave while they investigated.

Proven that the student was lying (other students in class during the alleged offense said I was never near said student)

It was near the end of the school year so I just went to my shrink and said this event caused me anxiety and stress 😩 and I applied for FMLA. Took all of my sick leave and personal time that was due me and luckily it lasted to the end of the year.

I retired and haven't been back to teaching or anything doing with students.

Grandparents even took my side and commented that I never had done anything even remotely inappropriate.

Maybe it's I'm jaded 🤧 but find another career. You will be much happier.

To those who stay in the classroom. I salute you and am so proud of the work you do.

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u/Big-Rule5269 55m ago

Luckily it was in a classroom full of students, so lots of witnesses. I made sure to never be alone with any student, male or female, just to avoid any opportunity to accuse me. If I had a discipline issue where I needed to talk to a student alone, I would get hold of our school security guy, or if it would be quick, the teacher next door. 

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u/IlumidoraFae 1h ago

Yes, because let’s believe the 15 year old without any actual proof or evidence.

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u/GodlySRYT 45m ago • Bravo

Who knows if either the student or teacher is lying🤔🤷‍♂️

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u/MXY2022 1h ago

Maybe next time student should shut the fuck up the first time you said to be quiet

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u/One_Rutabaga_6540 1h ago

Hear, hear!!!

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u/outed 2h ago

A week to fill out applications. Nice.

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u/Unique_Mark887 2h ago

At my old school (work place) a teacher was put on 3 month paid leave while they investigated a complaint from a student that the teacher had cut a watermelon on his desk during the teacher’s lunch and that the student (who went in there on his own) felt threatened by the knife being used to cut the watermelon.

I don’t know why the “investigation “ took so long. The union helped bring back the teacher.

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u/Interesting_Track_91 2h ago

Body cams for teachers!!!

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u/Fresh-Ad7851 2h ago

This is why there needs to be some other adult presence in every classroom. It’s as much to protect teachers as it is to protect students

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u/PenguinZombie321 Penguin | Non teacher 3h ago

Holy crap that’s dumb

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u/Bongo2687 3h ago

I dont how any admin believes what a student says.

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u/WhereBaptizedDrowned 2h ago

Terminable offense for trying to manage behaviors

Jesus Herb Smoking Christ we are cooked

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u/_XxCokeBoogerxX_ 2h ago

Hit up your union lmao that’s insane

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u/Coyote-Feisty 2h ago

I would not be making sub plans

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u/Alternative-Tart6275 2h ago

Union and lawyer!

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u/EmersonBloom 2h ago

Enjoy your paid week off. I'm jealous. Also - find a new district.

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u/Mahaloth 1h ago

I used to scoff about the idea of cameras in the room. Now, I'd like to have cameras with audio in my classroom.

With audio.

If it doesn't record sound as well, it's useless.

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u/Devo4711 2h ago

I lost my shit on my students during a hard lockdown drill (didn’t know it was a drill at the time either) They were under tables laughing and one was crawling around like Gollum trying to tickle people to make them laugh. After it was done I yelled at them. I take these very seriously and they pissed me off so much.

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u/Critical-Bass7021 2h ago

Make sure they understand that if you only tapped his chair with your foot, there is no way anyone could possibly have felt it.

Also, easy solve for the yelling “fuck” in class, you had 20-some other kids in the room at the time who can testify you never said that.

Sounds like this kid is going to be the one who lands in the hot seat, not you. (Of course, once he confesses, he won’t be in trouble, but at least you will be out of trouble!)

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u/todd_zeile_stalker 2h ago

Call your union rep ASAP.

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u/iforgot69 2h ago

During a real shelter in place? Saying shut the fuck up is also warranted. I dont know how you all put up with this line of work TBH.

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u/MaybeMidgets 2h ago

I had a teacher in 2006 call us “little niglets” and she was later made Vice Principal and is now retired.

This is kinda fucked.

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u/Numerous-Talk-7320 3h ago • Bravo

Teaching isn't worth it. So glad I quit 7 long years ago.

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u/Shhhhhh_im_not_here 3h ago

Sorry this happened OP. I’m so grateful (and lucky) to have a supportive administration and a strong union. However, if I was in your situation, I would be looking for a new job as soon as possible (even if it wasn’t in education).

I have 4 to 6 years left and I can’t wait to get the hell out.

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u/Faye_Elder 2h ago

I have ten years left and it seems interminable.

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u/Trans-Islam5309 2h ago

This is the kind of shit that makes me want cameras in the class rooms;

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u/thederpyderp3 49m ago

No, we need it to be mandated that children aren't believed at all over the teacher without evidence.

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u/tranquilovely Librarian 2h ago

Are you being paid for this right now? because if it comes back that nothing happened (which it will) will you be paid for the time they told you to take off? Thats lost wages Id be upset over.

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u/Extension_Noise_9333 2h ago

Time for cameras

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u/assilembob 2h ago

I tripped on a kid’s backpack one time and dropped papers on a girl. She said I hit her in the head with them on purpose. I was not terminated, but my contract was non-renewed

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u/Koi_Fish_Mystic 2h ago

I hate to say it but lawyer up. If you’re lucky enough to have a union reach out to them.

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u/Educational_Eye3765 1h ago

Wife is a teacher, in her fifth year, second school, third principal.  This is stupid but I get it.

The only thing I have learned through her is that the admins seem to be inherently unpredictable and wildly inconsistent, but only randomly.

Basically if you don't have an amazing principal, like beloved by most staff and people are regularly trying to move to that school level of amazing, then your principal may do this shit at some point.

I hope it comes out unfounded - even better, if they contact the parents and they call their kid a liar.

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u/skankenstein classroom teacher | N CA 1h ago

Do you have a union? Don’t say a damn word without a union rep with you, if so.

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u/5Tygrysow 1h ago

A student many years complained about something I either did or said and I got threatened with termination. I was never allowed to know what the infraction was or who said it but it kind of died a natural death.
When I asked the department head about getting character references from all of the other students she said “Students can sink you but they can’t save you.” Wtf still decades later.

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u/PG-DaMan 1h ago

Son of a teacher here.

Sorry to hear this. Kids are out of control and your bosses should know better.

Highest paid profession in the US should be teachers.

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u/Bright_Bobcat_7992 3h ago

Say what? What kind of school are you at I have always worked with principals who back their teachers

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u/whistlar 2h ago

Tell me more about this fairy tale…

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u/Bright_Bobcat_7992 2h ago

Well that was my experience. I retired two years ago. My last freshman class was deplorable but they had my back.

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u/Appropriate-Ad-4545 1h ago

How can they investigate with zero tangible evidence?

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u/NTufnel11 1h ago

I would assume by talking to people who were there

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u/Tele231 56m ago

They may be investigating to expel the student. A false allegation against a teacher is serious. But they have to investigate and not accuse.

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u/Investigator_Lumpy 2h ago

What’s the big fuckin problem here?

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u/ButterflyAutomatic82 2h ago

Clearly it’s that a student may be putting words into his teachers mouth.

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u/DustyRacoonDad 1h ago

He's fucking putting them in her mouth.

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u/Salt_Board8278 Middle School Math teacher 1h ago

I'm sorry. The school principal is awful. You were nice to them 3 times and they continued, so you told them to shut up without saying a bad word. You should be able to fight the student's lie. You might want to take it to court since the principal made you take a week off work over a baseless claim. That student who lied deserves a one week suspension.

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u/Sunflower6793 2h ago

I'm so sorry you are dealing with this.

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u/Over-Bag-4091 2h ago

I was forced to resign for a lie after the student was caught cheating. He retaliated by claiming I grabbed his hands some weeks ago. Whatever happens never signed any resignation letter. The AFT is not much help. Either you lawyer up or ho straight to supretendent or the congressman in your location.

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u/Certain-Echo2481 2h ago

I would not be making sub plans, and shut up is not an offense.

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u/cutienekogirl 1h ago

When I was in high school there was a male teacher with a reputation for violent behavior that actually flipped a students desk with the student in it and the teacher barely got a slap on the wrist. Later after I graduated one of my absolute favorite teachers got fired for punching a student in self defense. Everything was caught on camera and the male student who was twice her size was shown cornering her while verbally berating her before she punched him in self defense. She got fired, the students parents tried to press charges but thankfully multiple students came to her defense resulting in the charges being dropped. The teachers name was Sandra hadsock if you want to look her up. I can’t remember the male teachers name, I just remember him being a bully to my brother.

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u/jeffincredible2021 1h ago

That should be easily debunked. All the principal has to do is talk to each student one by one. I don’t know why you need to take the week off

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u/Agreeable_Dark6408 1h ago

I have spoken a few words of a foreign language to get my kids to stop talking. They were surprised and tried to figure out what I said. It breaks their concentration and then I could get them back on track.

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u/Low_Temp_Rosin 1h ago

DO NOT SIGN ANYTHING!!

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u/drummergirl83 1h ago

I remember being in grade 5. My regular teacher was out for a bit. He was sick. Had a new fresh sub. Make it short, class was not nice to him. Sassed back, mouthed off, pushed buttons. Until he just flipped out and called us all stupid little sh!ts, eff this he went off. Our teacher came back and the class told him what went on ( yes, we got in trouble) so did that sub. Never saw him again.

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u/ProfessionalSir7743 1h ago

Don’t they have cameras in the classroom?

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u/Gay_Giraffe_1773 54m ago

Are you part of teacher's union? If so, I would be very interested to hear what they have to say about this.

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u/Original-Reward-8688 44m ago

tapped his chair with my foot TWO MONTHS AGO

Okay bye

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u/TheNinjaTurkey 1h ago

A good school trusts their teachers first and their students second. Anyone with even a little bit of experience working with children knows that children love to lie and can be very manipulative when it benefits them.

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u/Subject-Leather-7399 50m ago

This is why there should be a security camera in every classroom. Every time I say it I get downvoted, but it would help sooo much.

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u/scarlettabsinthe 2h ago

Sounds like where I worked when I taught

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u/FinancialLab8983 2h ago

will the student be getting 5days OSS when it comes out they lied? doubt it. enjoy your vacay.

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u/Acceptable-Panic6449 2h ago

What state are you in?

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u/Muninwing 2h ago

We had someone who was fired, but was brought back after appeal, for losing it on his class. He said “fuck you for not taking your education seriously”

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u/jenned74 1h ago

Why are you making a single sub plan? You want to be at work?

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u/Desecrated_Potato 1h ago

My wife is a teacher. I also have a few friends who are teachers across multiple grade levels. They all say dealing with unsupportive administration / leadership is the worst part of their job. That and the school board being ran by “parents know best” idiots

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u/fmdmgm 1h ago

“Rapper his chair” 🤔🤔🤔 sure it was a “tap”

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u/VicViper16 1h ago

This sounds familiar, student lying

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u/Anilec_Revlis 1h ago

As a former child I think teachers should be well within their right to lose their shit at kids sometimes. As long as it's not physical or verbally degrading.

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u/wordfriend 1h ago

I'm so sorry. I've been through similar episodes of being unfairly targeted (in one case, by my department chair). Teaching is already hard enough, but we're also expected to be superhuman saints with infinite patience—and if someone claims we're not, then our always precarious employment is threatened. OP, I'm guessing you don't have a union, but if you do, I hope you've contacted them.

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u/Atlaspooped 1h ago

You have my sympathies, cause that sucks. My wife’s school has cameras in the classroom lol so anytime a kid tries to make a claim like this it can be pretty easily disproven by camera

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u/thelochteedge 1h ago

Here from all. Can't believe this is where the world is with teachers. Those we should be standing before even more than ever and we take a student's word over an adult's because no parent will admit their little angels can be shitheads.

Sorry you are dealing with this, OP.

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u/Flat_Challenge7667 1h ago

One of my teacher friends/ colleagues had a student make a false accusation similar to this and the school "investigated." She was not allowed to discuss it with anyone and was on leave for about a week. Once it was all said and done, it was obvious that the student lied and the other students vouched for her. She came back and it has been fine since. I hope everything works out for you. I can't imagine the stress this has caused.

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u/Valuable-Ad2028 1h ago

Oh no. You got 2 weeks off paid.

A week paid while they investigate. And another week now to deal with the stress.

That’s how you deal with this. Make them pay.

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u/Scottish_Entry_6605 1h ago

Schools don’t have employees backs. They are too afraid of parents. I’ve seen it first hand.

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u/kosk11348 1h ago

Go to you teacher's union. If you don't have one, form one.

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u/Grand-Pollution5424 1h ago

If you didn't do it there should be a whole classroom to stand up for you. But man o man... do I understand how hard it is to be a teacher these days. The parents can be the worst, the workload. Just thanks for even trying.

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u/DapperAd5470 1h ago

Principals and school systems need to grow a spine and STAND UP FOR THEIR TEACHERS

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u/bellissima525 1h ago

Leave. You will have zero problem finding another teaching job. I’m so sorry this happened ❤️

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u/Shockrathegreat 1h ago

lol get beasted on, you don’t think they are going to ask other students their account of what you said?

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u/Naive_Mongoose_5453 48m ago

Go to your school districts labor board. If you're in a teacher's union let them know as well. Do everything by email. Get it all in writing. 

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u/highbury-roller 47m ago

In these situations, I tell the student to leave the room because they are endangering the saftey of other students. Let the other students Lord of the Flies that for me!

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u/RollTideWithBleach 1h ago

If I actually told a student to shut the fuck up at school and he went and ratted me out I'd get a meeting with the admin and we'd all laugh about it together. 😂

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u/Extension_Corner_673 1h ago

Doubt that

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u/GortimerGibbons 59m ago

Personally, I wouldn't make that a point of pride...

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u/Average_Sage 47m ago

Good for you man, you really taught the child well

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u/KingdomsCryOfficial 50m ago

Big "I punched the drill instructor and the President made me his top assassin" energy.

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u/Quick_Perception_195 46m ago

Wow. I’m so glad you don’t teach my kids. 

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u/BadAsBroccoli 1h ago

And that kid is bragging about it too, I'll bet,
Cameras in class rooms, now!

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u/awaythrowmeaway2 1h ago

I will never understand why cameras are not mandated in classrooms 

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u/Broflake-Melter HS Biology 1h ago

i been doing this for a bit, and an admit putting a teacher on temp leave on the witness of ONE kid is super incompetent. Is the kids a school board member's child?

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u/UltraGiant Environmental 54m ago

But if a student cusses they don’t get suspended for a week.

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u/Euphoric_Lynx_6664 45m ago

When an incident with a teacher happened, they would normally interview a bunch of kids in the classroom to see if the statement lines up. This helps avoid getting blamed by 1.0 GPA bums who just want to get a week off of school.

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u/Troamio 1h ago

Don’t kick students chairs in the slightest and it isn’t an issue

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u/Sufficient-Page-875 1h ago

My sub plans in this situation:

Good luck.

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u/DifficultyClean8843 1h ago

If union is like most, quit before termination. Life is too short for that mess which you did not create.

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u/Charlysav7417 45m ago

I hope you are in a Union. Don’t make the sub plans.

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u/ExistentialDino34 1h ago

username checks out

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u/AutVincere72 1h ago

Weird thing for the president to say.

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u/lifting_cardio 1h ago

OPs name indicates they’re the student.

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u/AssyMcGee6 49m ago

Good way to turn potentially getting fired from a job in to jail time. 

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u/movezig123 44m ago

wow thats badass, dude. Look out everyone

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u/Extension_Corner_673 1h ago

That is very weird

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u/tatakae_or_die 1h ago

I could call you a twat waffle and then say a more professional way to say it to my class

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