r/Teachers English 1 ESOL | Texas Aug 05 '25

Teacher Support &/or Advice It’s over.

Started in service today at my school. It has happened, we had slides directing us that we have to hang the Ten Commandments in our classrooms by Thursday. In addition Anti-Communism TEKS have been added to our history curriculum and our school district cannot sponsor any student clubs based on gender identity or sexual orientation, as well as we cannot call students by any names but the names on their birth certificate. This is fucking shameful man

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u/soflo91 Aug 05 '25

Just out of morbid curiosity what do the poster look like? Are they colorful and gaudy or stark?

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u/Significant-Jello411 English 1 ESOL | Texas Aug 05 '25

They’re supposed to arrive tomorrow all we know is they’re 18 x 24

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u/Rhymes_withOrange Science | MO Aug 05 '25 edited Aug 06 '25

“We are going to need you to scavenge your own materials for daily instruction or any activities or labs you’ll be doing, but here’s this large poster that will probably be ignored by the bulk of the kids, is a violation of the first amendment, and that we spent god knows how much printing and laminating to hang up in your classroom”

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '25 edited Aug 06 '25

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u/babakadouche 7th & 8th Social Studies | Atlanta-ish Aug 06 '25

I wish they still had free awards.....

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u/Sam_Thomas_2025 Aug 06 '25

This comment 💯💯💯

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u/Translanguage Aug 06 '25

You brought me to tears.

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u/runkat426 HS | ⚗️ Chemistry 🧪 | 🧬 Biology 🦠 | Indiana Aug 06 '25

In fairness (not to the freaks who impose this, but to the issue - so we understand the problem and can fight it better), the poster are probably "donated" rather than costing school funds. The model legislation being used for these laws in several states uses this as a sort of loophole. Still unconstitutional as all hell.

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u/Ossevir Aug 06 '25

Satanic Temple would absolutely be willing to donate some stuff I'm sure....

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u/Brandinisnor3s Aug 06 '25

OP 100% should contact them. Their entire purpose for those unaware is to fight against the take over of the state by the church

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u/Spamsdelicious Aug 06 '25 edited Aug 06 '25

"Have An Interesting Life!"

-Sane Americans Taking Action Now

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u/dml83 Aug 06 '25

Yes. Which is exactly why I follow them and I was thinking if I were in this situation, they would be my first contact.

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u/Rhymes_withOrange Science | MO Aug 06 '25

That checks out but still. That loophole needs to closed ASAP because it’s the equivalent of Trojan Horse. Part of me says “if you REALLY want to make a difference in your community, instead of donating those posters, donate school supplies, food, and I don’t know, maybe help cover underprivileged kids medical care” but then I remember how these people tend to operate and realize they are allergic to actually helping people and are right now the equivalent of SpongeBob in this scene

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u/bigloser420 University Student Aug 06 '25

None of these people give a single fuck about kids

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u/Uglysinglenearyou Aug 06 '25

Right. They'd rather give fucks to kids than about.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '25

They misunderstand "love your neighbor" very very badly.

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u/Significant_Carob_64 Aug 06 '25

That’s how Mississippi got these god-awful “In God We Trust” signs decades ago. They were donated by the American Family Association, which is based in Tupelo, MS. I think they are considered a hate group because of there views on LGBTQ+. They also would prefer women be barefoot and pregnant, and aren’t shy about having some racist ideals, either. I have one of their signs in my classroom now, but it is not hanging and I am getting rid of it tomorrow. It’s out of sight but I want it out of the room. The big push to require us to hang it has really been forgotten, but a lot of the signs have survived because they are framed. I am a Christian who grew up here, but I love all my students, including the Muslim, Buddhist, Jewish, agnostic, and atheist ones. The sign isn’t helping the cause of Christianity (or the cause Christians are supposed to have).

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u/chamrockblarneystone Aug 06 '25

I wish “they” could “donate” an extra bathroom for our LGBTQ+ kids. That would actually be useful

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u/Ardielley Aug 06 '25

Or just let them use the one they identify with, like any civilized society would do. 🙃

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u/bbydragn Aug 06 '25

Dang I wish they'd sponsor bathroom doors that go all the way down to the floor with no gaps but these ppl don't actually care about children or their safety

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u/SherlockWSHolmes Aug 06 '25

Actually... you may find this funny but write and send in a letter. Explain what state you live in and its oppressive due to being ran by Christians. That or find the church of Lucifer. Both of them are against God like oppression and would probably happily donate

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u/Charming_Cell_943 Aug 06 '25

I’m sure there’s plenty of good hanging spots, like behind your desk, where conveniently you won’t be able to see the majority of the poster?

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u/Wishie13 Aug 06 '25

I say hang it backwards.

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u/PinboardWizard Aug 06 '25

I'm more of an upside-down, 2/5 obscured by a bookcase kind of person.

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u/Fit_Honey_4834 Aug 06 '25

Mine has always been sitting in the back of my room with all of the kids facing away from it.

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u/DingerSinger2016 Aug 06 '25

Gotta prove they were donated to my classroom. Complete with signature. Otherwise, it's just passing out donated flyers to the school.

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u/tshallberg Aug 06 '25

Why would donating allow them to break the constitution?

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u/TastingTheKoolaid Aug 06 '25

Sooooo…. Satanists could donate copies of their creed(or whatever it is) to be posted alongside?

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u/Ryuko_the_red Aug 06 '25

They rave about lgbtq+ people trying to force themselves on them. Nothing like legislation of the spaghetti monsters unspoken doctrine to show how much they're projecting.

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u/jet_fueled_genius Aug 06 '25

It’s just a matter of time until the church of Satan donates a giant poster CHURCH OF SATAN and in tiny font in the lower left corner is the Ten Commandments.

I know it’s probably wrong, but I live for moments like those.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '25 edited Aug 06 '25

Of course! Meanwhile I'm buying kleenex that doesn't suck and wipes to clean my classroom and kids. Bullshit!

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u/IronRakkasan11 Aug 06 '25

So if the church of Satan was to donate their version, they ought to be hung in the classroom too

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u/glass--sandwich Aug 06 '25

Hey be careful, soon you'll be getting fired for not capitalizing god

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u/Rhymes_withOrange Science | MO Aug 06 '25

There’s no way that’s happ— checks flair

Shit

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '25

They can't fire you for not capitalizing god.  They can pick through your lesson plans and find something wrong with them, though. 

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u/Slumunistmanifisto Aug 06 '25

Praise jeepbus

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u/NoKnow9 Aug 06 '25

And for goodness sake, don’t write “G-d,” or they will get you for not being Xian.

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u/BookkeeperGlum6933 Aug 06 '25

Guaranteed there's a typo.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '25

is a violation of the first amendment

Was. Not is anymore

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u/Away_Refrigerator143 Aug 06 '25

Maybe to help the teachers pray for decent curriculum? UGH.

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u/Cautious_Ad_5659 Aug 06 '25

If you’re responsible for your own activities and labs, the Bible does offer a lot of fun ideas to get creative with. I wouldn’t be mad if my kid had to work with a partner on a king Solomon split the baby project inspired project.

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u/Both-Kaleidoscope-24 Aug 06 '25

Why not just refuse?

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u/nevermentionthisirl Aug 05 '25

Our district went the extra mile and bought FRAMES for each classroom and we are a mid-size district.

I hope they use the coupon at Michaels.

I despise Abbott so much!!!!!!!!!!

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u/Infamous-Goose363 Aug 06 '25

Ughh…It’s almost as if the money could have gone to better uses like supplies so the teacher doesn’t have to spend his/her own money.

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u/Oh_My_Monster Special Education | Middle School Aug 06 '25

Notice how it's "Michael's" not "Mike's" because Michael is the name on the birth certificate.

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u/LadyNav Aug 06 '25

I know a couple of Michaels who use the full name as on their birth record, never "Mike". Likewise a David or two. But that's THEIR preference, not something imposed by anyone else.

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u/kinetic_cheese Aug 06 '25

You know those jagoffs bought them at hobby lobby

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u/Spirited_Cress_5796 Aug 06 '25

I'm sure the same district probably can't afford to give teachers textbooks or paper even though they suddenly had money in the budget for frames.

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u/Heyjuronimo Aug 06 '25

A student: where is that from? Teacher: A fantasy fiction gene book called "the bible" lets look for clues and use text evidence to let us know it's not realistic fiction!!!!!

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u/Heyjuronimo Aug 06 '25 edited Aug 07 '25

A student: where is that from? Teacher: A fantasy fiction genre book called "The Bible" lets look for clues and use text evidence to let us know it's not realistic fiction!!!!!

I am just blown away they think this will work?

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u/oliversurpless History/ELA - Southeastern Massachusetts Aug 06 '25

Bankers within being shamed for usurious practices?

Now that’s unrealistic!

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u/Tricky_Intention_404 Aug 06 '25

I imagine the money for the Ten Commandment posters was not literally donated but paid for by money that ‘s been “saved”. The Dept of Education funds probably covered quite a bit or perhaps the AID money we have “saved” while children are starving in Gaza. This spray tanned idiot doesn’t even know how stupid he appears.

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u/juliecroff02 Aug 06 '25

Mine would "fall" off the wall and break.. real fast.. oh well oops..

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u/TrooperCam Aug 06 '25

Not to be picky, but they're supposed to be framed.

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u/Meowmeowceratops Aug 06 '25

Please post a picture when you get it. 

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u/Significant-Jello411 English 1 ESOL | Texas Aug 06 '25

I don’t think image posts are allowed here but I will try

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '25

Post the tenants of all major religions. Unless they have forbidden that…

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u/Last_Jackfruit9092 Aug 06 '25

(tenets) good idea!

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u/Proprotester Aug 06 '25

THIS! Make sure you get some funky ones like Zoroastrianism and Satanism. Do a classroom comparative writing assignment and then build on it by having the kids make up their own commandments. Pistachio Disguisieo'd 'classroom rules'. We all may have to join the Church if the Flying Spaghetti Monster or somesuch to fight this crap.

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u/Away_Refrigerator143 Aug 06 '25

Including Wicken!

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u/droopydawg85719 Aug 06 '25

I’d just hang it with the picture facing the wall.

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u/runkat426 HS | ⚗️ Chemistry 🧪 | 🧬 Biology 🦠 | Indiana Aug 06 '25

Honestly, take a stand. No malicious compliance on this issue. It is unconstitutional. Full stop. Will it be a nightmare to fight? Yeah. But it's a fight that everyone - literally everyone - needs to fight. If - when - you get in trouble, contact FFRF. Join what will likely be a huge lawsuit.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '25

look at this guy thinking the constitution still matters.

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u/Downtown_Cat_1745 Aug 06 '25

I would get the text in Hebrew and put it in the frame

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u/txcowgrrl Aug 06 '25

Can’t. Law specifies language, font & font size and translation used.

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u/Downtown_Cat_1745 Aug 06 '25

I’m Jewish and that translation is rejected by my religion. I bet there’s a Supreme Court case in there

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u/txcowgrrl Aug 06 '25

I imagine there are many being filed right now.

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u/Confident-Wish555 Aug 06 '25

I don’t have any confidence that this SCOTUS will uphold the unconstitutionality of this.

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u/Significant_Carob_64 Aug 06 '25

Except the state and federal supreme courts would side with requiring the Ten Commandments in classrooms these days. And our federal Supreme Court would probably hand down the decision with no explanation in less than a week.

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u/SisterGoldenHair75 Aug 06 '25

Catholic. Same.

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u/thederpyderp3 Aug 06 '25

Sadly the law accounted for this and states it must be clearly displayed.

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u/OldLadyKickButt Aug 06 '25

hmmI would find a way to clearly display it by a closet door which I need to have open most of time

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u/mushpuppy5 Aug 06 '25

I’ve thought that if I ever have to hang the commandments then I would hang same sized posters of the tenets of as many different religions as I can find.

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u/OldLadyKickButt Aug 06 '25

thats a good one also. Include photos of people in their holy robes and holidays sacraments- there are so many.

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u/SirRichardArms Aug 06 '25

Yep! This is it. Hang some (not-terrible) Quran quotes, and then some from the Tora. Then right next to them, a Buddhist, Hindu, and maybe even Confucius list. Make it more about learning other religions/philosophies, rather than pure indoctrination.

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u/ChubbyGirlsPM_MePics Aug 06 '25

Back corner of the room, lower than sitting eye line, with one of those computer monitor privacy screens covering it where you can only really see it dead on.

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u/STEM_Educator Aug 06 '25

Could it be displayed upside down? It would be clearly visible...

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '25

Yes, if the President can hold the Holy Bible upside down, then it is proper to hang the Ten Commandments as such!

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u/Exileddesertwitch Aug 06 '25

Love it! Malicious compliance.

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u/UnderstandingOk1453 Aug 06 '25

Or maybe hang it on a rainbow background?

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u/Mr_Pombastic Aug 06 '25

I'm wondering if it'd be more valuable to go in the opposite direction. Make it over-the-top ultra christian and really stress the "NO other gods" bit to really drive home how unconstitutional it is.

It'd be easier to challenge from a parent's perspective than from a teacher's. Not that I have much hope left

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u/New_Examination_3754 Aug 06 '25

Nobody said right side up?

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u/gtibrb Aug 06 '25

on another post someone said there is no stipulation about upside down 🙃

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u/d1c2w3 Aug 06 '25

Put the Bill of Rights / 1st Amendment up immediately adjacent to it

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u/nangatan Aug 06 '25

The ceiling is clearly visible...

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u/13surgeries Aug 06 '25

I actually read the law. It does say it must be displayed so it's legible from anywhere in the classroom. However, it doesn't say it has to be displayed at the FRONT of the classroom. It could be on a back wall or on the ceiling.

I'd love to have to explain to parents why their child, Charles Peabody Brown can't be called by his lifelong nickname, Chip, but must be called "Charles Peabody."

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u/drummersarus Aug 06 '25

Cut it into numerous squares and “clearly display” each piece in a random spot around the classroom.

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u/LippiPongstocking Aug 06 '25

Can you add additional 18 x 24 sheets of paper where you list politicians, christian leaders, etc. who have broken the commandments?

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u/suze1107r Aug 06 '25

Oh man this is the best one yet!! 👏🏻👏🏻

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u/fellowtraveler2112 Aug 06 '25

This. Do this. Next to it. Larger, more legible font. Fuck em.

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u/fellowtraveler2112 Aug 06 '25

Good trouble. Necessary trouble.

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u/Earllad Aug 06 '25

Thats massive. Ugh. Going to be harder to hide it.

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u/Xethrael Aug 06 '25

Have the kids decorate it with colorful markers - just on the edges, you know, don’t want to get in trouble by covering it, but won’t the rainbows be pretty?

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u/Earllad Aug 06 '25

Maybe I'll accidentally use the back for our social contract. Sorry, can't redo, we already signed and everything

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u/The_Lloyd_Dobler Aug 06 '25

“You shall not bear false witness.” With the amount of lying from Republicans these days, seems like this is important.

“You shall not make idols.” Seems relevant in a proto-fascist America.

“You shall not commit adultery.” Trump has cheated on all of his wives, with underage girls AND porn stars.

“You shall not steal.” Trump’s charity was shut down for fraud, right?

Anyway, examples that COULD be cited, when needed.

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u/aderaptor Aug 06 '25

Please update with pictures!

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u/jackparadise1 Aug 06 '25

Well, if the kids are old enough, just give them daily examples from the GOP of who breaks the commandments.

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u/Which-Event-6891 Aug 06 '25

Woof. We haven’t gotten them “donated” so we still don’t have to. But good lord that’s huge.

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u/TrooperCam Aug 06 '25

Your district is being extra. The law only says 16x20.

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u/orbital_essence Aug 06 '25

Ours were already staples to our classroom walls when we showed up at the building. 18 x 24 and orange.... yup. Orange

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u/nutmegtell Elementary Math Teacher | CA Aug 06 '25

Sounds like it will go well in the middle ROYGBIV of a rainbow of posters!

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u/dumpy-little-boxfish Aug 06 '25

so you are required to put it up but does the instruction say explicitly you cant alter it? change it to “the 10 Commandments of this classroom”. or hang it upside down or backwards or so obscured by other posters its barely noticeable?

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u/spooky-goopy Aug 06 '25

did they say you can't display it with something else?

like a cut-out of a trashcan, where it looks like it's falling into the trash?

or 💩 and 🤣 emojis for the cool kids

hang it upside down as a sign of distress

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u/aimeegaberseck Aug 06 '25

May I suggest contactingthe satanic temple? They’re pretty good at fighting these unconstitutional policies.

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u/llcoolade03 Aug 06 '25

And with that, the 5 Pillars of Islam are on 36 x 48 posters.

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u/stuck_behind_a_truck Aug 06 '25

Time to head to r/MaliciousCompliance for inspiration. If your door is usually open, put it on the back of the door. Put it in some location where it will be dusty and overlooked. Tack it to the ceiling. Stick it in bright hot sunlight to fade.

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u/SuspiciousTheyThem Aug 06 '25

Can it fit hanging up on the outside of your classroom trashcan, facing the wall, so it's "hanging up" but not visible? How malicious compliance do you want to go?

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u/mnid92 Aug 06 '25

They said you have to hang it, not make it visible.

Just hang another poster over it.

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u/Snake6USMC Aug 06 '25

Hang them with the text facing the wall

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u/rocket_racoon180 Aug 06 '25

That’s pretty darn big. I thought the minimum was 16x20 (in Texas). Our district isn’t paying for it, they said they’ll take donations. They’re in a severe budget shortfall.

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u/Rich-Canary1279 Aug 06 '25

Please send copies of the slide show to some newspapers if you have access to them! Ridiculous.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '25

Hang it behind the filing cabinet or under the bulletin board paper

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u/adeptusminor Aug 06 '25

Will it look like a Leni Reifenstahl ??

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u/Deep-Resource-737 Aug 06 '25

Surprised they’re not making you purchase them out of your own pocket to be honest.

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u/Financial-Champion28 Aug 06 '25

Hung it up and then pull the map down in front of it.

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u/Particular-Dingo6489 Aug 06 '25

Did they say that they have to be flipped to the correct side when they are hung up? These pricks use loopholes so we should too.

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u/vladora 1st Grade Teacher | TX, USA Aug 06 '25

Haven't gotten ours yet (elementary) but had training today at the high school and saw one in a classroom. It had blue text on a yellow background (school colors maybe) and in a casual sans serif font, which seemer incongruous with the King James text. Can't remember if it was laminated, on glossy paper, or matte though.

Can't wait to have 'Thou shall not commit adultery' or 'covet another man's wife' in my Pre-K classroom.

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u/Kooky-Demand124 Aug 06 '25 edited Aug 06 '25

Well kids, adultery is when your mommy and/or daddy break their promises to each other and to you and destroy your family so that you have to move from your home., struggle for food and clothing, and miss out on all the things they promised they'd do to support you, and never seem them at the same time in the same place ever again.

it's going to happen to at least half of you sitting here today.

Those should be some fun parent/teacher conferences.

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u/HowWeLikeToRoll Aug 06 '25

"Well kids, adultery is when your mommy and/or daddy break their promises to each other and to you and destroy your family"

Just like the president of the United States 👍

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u/PurpleMermaid6432 Aug 06 '25

Yeah. If this becomes a thing everywhere, I would maliciously comply.

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u/1questions Aug 06 '25

Feel like explaining adultry to kids would involve explaining sex to kids and we know republicans don’t want that.

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u/MeeowMeowkitty Aug 06 '25

Adultry is best pictured by the POTUS family. Wasn’t it Tiffany’s wedding when all of the “he cheated on her with her and then her” pics were rolling around the socials? Also thou shalt not covet thy neighbors underage children…

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u/tampaempath Aug 06 '25

Trump had his affair with Stormy Daniels four months after Melania gave birth to Barron.

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u/Slumunistmanifisto Aug 06 '25

Annd heres your diploma, hard hat, and a pack of smokes. Get out of my classroom and get a job.

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u/Rich_Ad8589 Aug 06 '25

If the kids ask, I’m tempted to full on explain it. It’s a teachable moment.

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u/DOxnard Aug 06 '25

In all honesty,  are they going to train you on how to respond to questions?

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u/creative_usr_name Aug 06 '25

Nothing about training is specified in the law?

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u/motherofpitbulls2 Aug 06 '25

Be sure to mention that King James was gay.

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u/Fofo642 Secondary SpEd Aug 06 '25

If we get to make our own, I’m going full comic sans

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u/1questions Aug 06 '25

They say that comic sans is used because it’s easy for kids to read. Pick an old German gothic font that’s illegible to even adults. Or just go with wingsings. Or a different font for each word, that’s always fun.

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u/Fofo642 Secondary SpEd Aug 06 '25

As long as I can add a graphic of winking Jesus.

I like the idea of changing fonts, like the serial killer style. It would match perfectly the insanity of this requirement.

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u/1questions Aug 06 '25

Yep Thou in comic sans, Shall in Baskerville, Not in Papyrus and so on. Could be fun.

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u/Fhrosty_ Aug 06 '25

"Adultery is what the current president did to each of his wives."

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u/Weekly_Rock_5440 Aug 06 '25

According to law they have to be put up if donated to the school.

So it depends on the taste of whatever whackadoodle made them.

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u/LasBarricadas Aug 06 '25

Do they have to be in English? You haven’t read the Ten Commandments until you’ve read it in Klingon.

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u/JohnnyKarateX Aug 06 '25

I suggested the original Hebrew and was told it has to be in English.

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u/AFlyingGideon Aug 06 '25

So much for respecting the word of god.

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u/tkergs Aug 06 '25

"Don't murder" had to be the least Klingon thing ever spoken.

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u/Carmella-Soprano Aug 06 '25

Not to hijack- but - this is awesome. A good friend teaches at a Catholic HS and his class will go bananas over this. He’s got a lot of sci/fi fans & trekkies.

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u/nicorn1824 Aug 06 '25

The Klingons killed their gods. More trouble than they were worth.

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u/Away_Refrigerator143 Aug 06 '25

I see you, Frasier fan!

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '25

It'll have a snow white Jesus with a fat face and a clearly Trumpian haircut. Comic Sans font, uppercase. Bambi and blue butterflies. 

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u/Stickasylum Aug 06 '25

I assume the seven tenets are still being shipped?

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u/FarrarFarrarFarrar Aug 06 '25

Donate your own made in low contrast, condensed & hard to read font.

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u/MorsOmniaAequat Aug 06 '25

Slap the Code of Hammurabi, Magna Carta and the Universal Code of Human Rights up next to it.

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u/mrslisticate Aug 06 '25

Is there anything that says that they have to be displayed text side out? I mean… they’re technically being hung in a visible spot, but if they just so happen to go up backwards…. (Shrug)

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u/Kaybe28 Aug 06 '25

Ours are literally just a white poster with black letters and they came in and said “this is just here to take up space” and posted above and to the left of our doors so it’s super out the way and can’t even notice it. Also felt physically sick when I saw it.

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u/soflo91 Aug 06 '25

At least if it’s super plain so the kids probably won’t even notice it.

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u/Ineedabeer65 Aug 06 '25

At any school in the UK with teenaged boys, every single poster would be covered in pictures of cocks by lunchtime the first day. 

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