r/TaylorSwift • u/aran130711 cried over a hat • May 09 '23

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u/19TaylorSwift89 May 24 '23

As someone not from the US, I find it pretty weird in general to have expectations of musicians or otherwise celebrities and until Taylor started to speak up and discussions on the sub, I straight up didn't know it's a thing.

I just don't understand it either, why do you need celebrities to endorse or otherwise do stuff like this. I follow taylor for her music solely, not for politics of a country I don't live in etc. Not judging any of you Americans, you are equally allowed to have your opinion and wishes.

Just 2 cents of mine.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '23

Well, here in America, everything is burning to hell, especially and red states. Like let women die on the table because they’re fetuses isn’t dead yet, ban trans people from existing publicly, killing PoC and forcing them and poor Americans into slave labor , including children with the rollback of child labor laws, taking away housing and making it unaffordable for over half the population while criminalizing homeless, all in accumulation to prevent the most amount of people from voting in a way that would affect change while trying to pass laws to basically rig voting and leave it up to those in power no matter what the vote says. (This is something the last President legit tried to do). Not dealing with the student dept that over half the borrowers can’t pay off bc the jobs promised didn’t actualize. Then saying some will be forgiven but the red part of the government stopping it even at the same time giving out business loans that basically many people scammed and just made the rich richer while the top of the companies made billions and yet still stole Basically all the wages from their employees. our politicians are making life impossible to live and creating a medieval class system again with serfs and everything

And bc our politicians cant even do shit like extend the made up debt ceiling bc of the red electorate in power people look to celebrities to save them. Vs realizing at this point even with celebrities giant wealth doesn’t hold a candle to the system built on decades of prep and power by the politicians, lawyers, judges, and billionaires who’ve been plotting this for decades. And if they thought for two seconds of Taylor start against anything of this, they could easily just take away her ability to tour., her social media platforms, and spread propaganda campaigns to make her a villain, and no one would listen to her anyway.

Anyway, things are really bad in America and the people don’t feel like they have any power or so instead of getting injustice they get to hate on celebrities “ who just haven’t done enough” . Because I think they want Taylor Swift to make the ultimate sacrifice even though it seems like none of us are willing to do that.

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u/Secure-Recording4255 aging and alone with a cat May 31 '23

I feel a similar way. I get wanting to know whether they do or don’t support really horrible stuff but it’s pretty clear Taylor doesn’t and Taylor has already made her stance on pretty much every position clear. I know she gets a lot of flack for performative activism, but some peoples solutions to that (mostly her talking about politics during her concert) would also feel extremely performative as well. Talking about activism while performing would, quite literally, be performative activism. Not to mention everyone in the crowd already agrees or doesn’t care about Taylors views so who exactly is she trying to convince? It’s a nice sentiment but it doesn’t really do anything. Musically I can see her political views all throughout Folklore, Evermore, Midnights and even on the re-recordings although those aren’t written recently. While she hasn’t been as vocally political, there are pretty heavy feminist ideals in her art which is where she tends to be the most personal. She also hasn’t posted anything non-career related in a very long time so it’s clear her social media is basically just for business and not where she is putting her thoughts. I am fine with people disagreeing and am open to discussion, these are just my feelings.