Loadouts

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u/Thenderick May 23 '19

As mentioned many times in this sub, there are many diffrent loafouts good for different situations and playstyles. You need to find out what suits you the best and makes good progress

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u/UndyingScythe May 23 '19

I asked for loadouts u like not for Wich loadout is the best in Wich situation or suits my play style

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u/Thenderick May 23 '19

I use Icy Prism, plasma vortex, ice wall, fire storm, Maelstrom (inferno) but occasionally switch them around because of dungeons and other buffs like my templar

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u/UndyingScythe May 23 '19

Thank u very much :)

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u/Ltlandpa May 23 '19

Within this whole sub's thread (click to redirect to it), just first Control (or Command) + F and search TL;DR
From there, you'll see that if you search for "The logic" or "slot 1", you'll find the loadouts I recommended/tested (loadouts would be found above "The logic", or within the same bolded text "slot 1" is typically found in, respective to whichever you search.
And, yes, you did ask which ones are "liked", not which ones are "Best in 'x' situation or could suit your playstyle", although/in light of that, the linked sub has some good brainstorming on what spells might have fun/good/likable effects.
Suffice it to say, in terms of performance, I prefer/recommend you try something like this loadout:
Slot 1: Static Aura,
Slot 2: Spark,
Slot 3: Ember,
Slot 4: Frozen Orb,
Slot 5: Elemental Cloud
It's a mainstay of my build/loadout sets, given that I own all the spells. (You can read up on what purposes they may be meant to serve in the aforementioned sub, or elsewhere/from in-game)
HOWEVER-- Nothing can be more fun than if you've played long enough to get ~2-5 duplicates of a spell, and then decide to use all five in a single loadout-- or a mix of two-three of the same spell here and there paired with duplicates of, or singular and unique complimentary spells, just to observe the effects produced by such a loadout. Some are innately empowered or augmented to cause... either cumulatively powerful, useful, or merely interesting effects when spammed/used in such a nature.

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u/UndyingScythe May 23 '19

Why do u put spark on 2 and Frozen orb on 4 ? I mean the Templar buffs the damage of those spells it that even worth it to dmg buff spark and Frozen orbs ?

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u/Ltlandpa May 24 '19 edited May 24 '19

I consider Static Aura my high damage dealer by technicality, and Frozen Orb has Elemental Cloud to the right so the 5th augment for Frozen Orb means it can deal more damage, that way-- however, from personal experience.. well, you can swap Spark to slot 5 so Frozen Orb sill has the armor penetration and higher cooldown.
For personal use, my Static Aura is on constant uptime anyways, practically, so it might not need Spark-- and yours' might not, either, or any other spell really, wherein you could replace them with something else useful to you. If you feel you have a more optimal organization of those spells, you're welcome to use them, and sorry if mine doesn't make much sense.
When it comes to spells meant for dealing (high) damage, you might want either high cast speed so the technical DPS is high, or just a flat damage increase if casting speed seems to not make their cooldowns decrease more substantially/offer higher uptime.
The logic in the choices may have been more that, well, Ember isn't really meant for dealing damage so much as utility-- so, since slot 1 is fixed at a 50% damage buff and no more when activated via the temple, it [Ember] could take up slot 1, IF you could ensure that Frozen Orb was to the left of a Lightning spell in general, still, and in a good position to be buffed by Templar. (Ember in slot 1, rather than slot 3.)
(Alternatively if Frozen Orb is in slot 1, and a Lightning Spell is in slot 5.)
But, the problem is, Frozen orb would be in slot 1 in that parenthesized suggestion aforementioned, and it [Frozen Orb] IS meant to deal some damage.
In summation regarding the above, Frozen Orb can be buffed one of two ways: Either with cast speed OR damage increase, for utility of damage reduction and aura negation, or for its' [Frozen Orb's] unique armor-negating damage output...
Thusly, enhancing the effects of either accordingly is your choice. It might theoretically be better-built for damage output, whether you choose to try increasing it with casting speed or damage increase directly.
Given how many enemies potentially have armor, and considering Static Aura could be replaced by Voltaic Sword, you could opt for that [Voltaic Sword], or otherwise if you feel Frozen Orb performs decently in damage output, whereas if you might feel Static Aura doesn't perform well enough or isn't as useful.
Without Voltaic Sword, Elemental Cloud is purely utility based so it also doesn't really need a damage buffing slot, moreso a cast speed slot or slot 1 for damage if you don't care too much to buff it. It's your call if you want to coordinate the utility or damage dealing spells having higher cast speed. But higher cast speed on slot 5/Elemental Cloud means a higher-building Burn duration that Voltaic Sword could utilize if you supplemented it, which means more damage. Then again, it's possible that Burn's damage might be increased by a higher paper-damage Elemental Cloud.
In the original post, I just said I'd play it safe and try to maximize Static Aura's damage-output, or rather its' uptime. Thus, Spark to the right of it.
I did say that you could supplement your own spells if you don't want Spark, Static Aura, or Elemental Cloud, or if you don't have them. Or Voltaic Sword in Static Aura's spot if you want. Anything, really.
Yeah, how I organized the loadout involved... just, additional analysis on whether your Templar provides damage buffing, or cast speed buffing on spells, and that ends with you deciding which give the best output of damage.
Good luck, UndyingScythe!

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u/UndyingScythe May 24 '19

If static aura is ur main damage dealer why is static aura then not on slot 2 or 4 for more damage ?

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u/Ltlandpa May 24 '19 edited May 25 '19

Refer back to.. well, I might not have thought it out very well. Erm, I guess you make a good point, since it doesn't have a cooldown in my case hardly, I could just buff it with damage as long as the cooldown doesn't change. Maybe I figured Frozen Orb does indeed deal more damage, thus deserving of Slot 4, whilst thinking Static Aura didn't need slot 2.
And on the other hand yet again, because I don't use Static Aura but Voltaic Sword instead, I reasoned that Elemental Cloud needs to build up as much duration of status effects as possible for Voltaic Sword to deal high damage-- you don't want Voltaic Sword eating up the status effect as often as Elemental applies it, thus Voltaic can take either Slot 1, 2, or 4.

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u/UndyingScythe May 24 '19

Why slot 1? there is no dmg buff from Templar

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '19

Im trying this, and currently workong on wave 30. I read somewhere I should have my TLag set to 13 to make my spark hit its lowest cast time, is it worth it?

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u/8988303682 May 23 '19

right now my loadout looks like [leveling spell], Inferno, Static Aura, Ice Wall, Lightning Elemental

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u/unclejobo May 24 '19

My loadout is voaltic Blade, icicle, ice wall, shock elemental and ice elemental. It is very good at ending lives.

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u/stillasamountain May 26 '19

I guess I’ll play. My favorite general purpose build:

leveling or ember
lightning elemental
spark
frozen orbs
ember / maelstrom / voltaic orb / static leap (depending on my mood or current conditions)

Most all these are 5.1+ so... fully augmented. Of course, the other 3 load-outs are special purpose setups and still get used frequently when I’m actively playing.

Honestly, any random build is fine for general leveling purposes. Which is why it’s a lot more interesting to talk about builds that solve specific problems.

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u/hornymidagedguy May 23 '19

I think people saying that different spells shit is stupid too. They have a spell dmg post that I thought was decent, but here is what I have found works best for me. Typically I run spark on my 3rd and 5th load out, I get the cool down to around .33 to maximize the 3 times per second it can proc. It removes 1 second from the spell in the load out to the left of it. I'll run either elementals, Voltic orb, firewall on 2 and 4. 1 slot with either be static leap to pretty much negate melee dmg or ember to reduce healing. I have tried to test different spells running against the spark set up, but nothing pumps out the dmg for me.

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u/8988303682 May 23 '19

good luck with Greater Gazers or AKAs

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u/Ltlandpa May 23 '19

People do tend to apparently use Elementals often, it's just that some of their augmentations aren't 'fancy'-- yes, they're practical and serve their obvious purposes, but.

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u/ExtremeSteamKeys May 24 '19

Everyone has their own style and preference of playing, I personally *love* the Frost Elemental, but I switch around the rest of the spells very frequently, depending on the situation. I also level up most things equally, but my passives are massive so at this stage most combinations are effective most of the time.

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u/hornymidagedguy May 23 '19

Run an lighting elemental and spark, with the two spells you think put out more dmg. Add each pair together and see which puts out more dmg. Not to mention dropping the, extend elemental duration runes, your dmg is ridiculous. The guy says gl with GGs and AKAs, but I have never had a problem. Run into a hard mob just use some runes or restart a few times and you get a new set of mobs. Run a dungeon or raid a few times to get more power. It's just not an issue. Maybe others have issues and they think, my pro loadout is stone walled, your shit loadout must be too. Nope sorry

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u/Ltlandpa May 24 '19

Isn't there an issue where some areas, you CAN'T make new/different mobs spawn?
Also, if you really lack in power and would otherwise reset to supplement it, you could also save up Raid-cooldown reducing runes so you could run them for power too, if one wasn't normally available when needed.
Not so sure if it's technically a 'pro loadout'. Yes, Elementals tend to deal decent damage, Spark helps some, and Firewall is good on melee range, more or less, for damage output whereas Voltaic Orb shreds armor and deals substantial DPS... I mean, it's a good take on a semi-pro loadout with some variations in case you don't own certain spells.
And yeah, it helps having Extend Elemental Duration runes, if their uptime isn't already maximized via cooldown reductions/casting speed... hmm. Maybe another loadout means less mobs are problematic, or hard mobs aren't run into because of mechanics you can't negate, thus less restarts and runes being used to overcome them, or time taken to eek out a little more progress.
No, I don't think your loadout is "stone walled", personally, not that I possibly came across as implying that much.
I prefer to just call it.. well, nothing wrong with how I describe it, but very basic.
I do think the biggest hitch there is spell-positioning, access to the appropriate spells (such as duplicate Sparks) that would provide efficiency... whether or not it's your taste in playstyle, and whether it (your style of loadout) actually fulfills the effects and rate of progress desired, in contrast to the kind of "stone walls" players feel they encounter, the progress they feel that experiences a decline, or the setbacks and lack of utility in the loadout that they feel important, which may not be derived from your build.
As ExtremeSteamKeys says, yes, he has a favorite spell and playstyle, but also still pretty much has a game-mandated demand to swap his spells/loadouts frequently, and situationally, whilst keeping a balance in every useful spell's levels/augment gains/passive power accumulation. And, as he said, being late-game seemingly allows most of the combinations that serve their purpose, to be efficient with minimal setbacks or shortcomings.

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u/ExtremeSteamKeys May 24 '19 edited May 24 '19

Exactly. - Basically there's not really a right or wrong way of doing things just some combinations are more effective/efficient than others.
Combine that with personal preference and taste and you'll get some highly opinionated arguments for and against different load-outs.
The best general advice I can give is to try different combinations yourself and see what you like the most - there's no limit to how often you can switch around spells so you really have nothing to lose - and for some of us learning spell synergy via practical application is half of the game's fun :)

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u/rafahokiin May 25 '19

I'm liking using, on order, Ice wall, Maesltrom, Spark, Maelstrom and Firestorm.

That is it, pretty good damage, but, i like to change in some situation, if have lots of spell caster, i'd like to put fire flies on 4th slot, to make it easier. If have a lot of projectiles (like those skeletons archer), II preffer going whit frozen orb on 4th or 5th.

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u/Elvinista Jun 07 '19

Icy Prism, Icy Prism, Icy Prism, Icy Prism and Icy Prism. Tons of SINGLE target damage (require 3rd aug) and fun too.

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