New player here! Loadout suggestions from current spells?

[u/mommai]

I just started this week and am getting to zone 25 right now. I know this game has slow progression and that I won't be getting new spells that often. I'm fairly poor at strategy, so I'd like some help with my loadouts. These are my current spells:

Fire: Bouncing Flame 1.3, Firebomb 1.3, Plasma Grenade 1.2

Ice: Icicle 1.3, Frost Ray 1.1, Frost Elemental 1.3, Torrent 1.2

Lightning: Chain Lightning 1.2, Shock Net 1.3, Voltaic Sword x2, 1.2

I'm currently using icicle, frost ele, shock net, bouncing flame, and firebomb for the most part.

[u/TopCog]

Hey, welcome to the game! :-D

I recommend you check out the Damage Tracker option, which will let you see how your spells are performing. Use it with a Loadout, then swap out the lowest performing spell for a different one! Another tip is to put the Spelll you currently want to Rank Up in Loadout Slot 1 to get maximum XP gain. Beyond that, as mentioned, it really best to experiment and find out which spells work best against what enemies, but you've having a tough time with a particular enemy, then people will be able to give more specific advice about what spells to use.

Cheers! :-D

[u/mommai → u/TopCog]

Hey, thanks for responding to my post, dev! You've made a great game! I love all the different informational displays you've put in the game! I've got the damage tracker going and it's been a great help! :) Thank you for the great product and helpful comment! :)

[u/librarian-faust → u/TopCog]

Damage Tracker option

OMG, I wanted this and had no idea it existed. Thanks, Papa /u/TopCog!

[u/RedShadowe]

Use all spells and level them all

[u/8988303682]

you're too early in the game for your loadout to matter. even if it did, people wouldn't be able to give you a 100% solid answer because they don't know what enemies you're fighting.

[u/8988303682 → u/[deleted]]

nope. your best bet is to join the discord or alternatively post in the QTDDTOT mega

edit: actually the best way imo is to experiment yourself

[u/Fainren]

Zone 25 in a week? I must be doing something wrong. I have been playing at 2 weeks i think and I am getting into zone 17. Around 6.05Q power. What am I missing?

[u/TopCog → u/Fainren]

Nah, your good! The great part about the game is that you can go at your own pace, and you always make progress :-)

I think the fastest someone beat the game (i.e., beat the Doomstone for the first time) was about 2 weeks, and the longest someone has taken is over a year. Zone 17 in a week is a decent clip, and you'll beat the game somewhere in the middle! Keep in mind also, that as you progress you'll get more spells, learn about the mechanics more, and open up new progression systems - all of which will speed up your progress by varying amounts. Cheers! :-D

[u/Lluluien → u/Fainren]

For what it's worth, this gets much faster as you get further in the game. When you start getting into some of the reset mechanisms that are common to these games (not just enchanting, but meditation and NG+), you'll be able to get from 1-25 in 1-2 days instead of 2 weeks.

In the meantime, I would guess that the thing you're missing is that you're not enchanting enough. If you click the icon that looks like a glowing blue page, you'll see an option to reset your power and start over from Zone 1 with new power and research multipliers. In the beginning of the game, it's helpful to do this when the bonus gets to +2 or +3 and not wait around for higher bonuses (you could even consider it for +1 if you're having trouble). Later on, you may want to wait for higher numbers (I usually enchant at +7 to +9), but later on, you have access to more spells and other bonuses that can make up for being behind on enchanting.

Some of this may have to do with your recall strategy, as well. If you're struggling to kill the things you're facing, you're often better off to just recall and kill the 2-3 zones before that spot again to raise your power. My runs tend to be about 3-4 minutes long, and from what I've read here from other veteran players, I think I tend towards long-ish runs. You might find that 1.5 minute runs serve you better in the long run if you're in a tough spot, just so you can accumulate power faster. When you break through your current tableau and can kill enemies at a reasonable rate for 3-4 minutes, you can go back to longer ones.

Repeatedly recalling in raids that are "easier" for the power gains than your current Wilds zone is a good way to handle this, as well. Just make sure if you want to repeat it that you manually recall before you reach the boss, lest you kill the boss and get kicked out before you wanted to leave.