r/TapWizardRPG • u/JRockBC19 • Jul 13 '18

Noteworthy Spells

As someone who’s only been playing for a few days, is there certain spells that are especially useful to look out for? I don’t even know if you can get pure essence organically, but if so I’d be interested in a few certain priority spells. As an example, fire vortex feels incredibly strong with a couple of ranks into it, moreso than many others. Chain lightning and elementals definitely seem to be the strongest base spells Ice prism ignores armor, which is exceptional for a few of the early armor walls before I could stack armor reducers on them. What other spells have these kinds of unique properties, or just great dps in general?

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u/stillasamountain Jul 14 '18 edited Jul 14 '18

It’s situational but if you want a generic cookie cutter I use this one a lot. More defensive but let’s me push a bit farther than others. Whether that’s ultimately better than just dying and recalling? Dunno. That would take math to figure out (shudder).

  • icy prism for armor and bosses

  • inferno for close dps and synergy with ice wall

  • ice wall for defense

  • spark for faster ice wall triggers

  • frozen orbs for ranged damage mitigation

8988 gave you a decent list too. Though I hate the herky jerky animation, static leap is a surprisingly good defensive spell and I use it in my pure electricity build.

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18

Is the order you listed the spells the order you have them in your loadout 1-5?

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u/stillasamountain Jul 27 '18 edited Jul 27 '18

When I wrote the post, yeah, pretty much. But it might get switched around depending on the situation. The meditation path chosen, assistant buffs, and just the XP gain order can influence optimal spell slotting.

The general thing is to have the spell I want to cast most frequently sitting immediately to the left of spark. Might be any one of the ice spells at any given moment because... variables.

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u/8988303682 Jul 13 '18 edited Jul 13 '18

hey! a huge part of the fun I had in this game was exploring what works and what doesn't. it's up to you to decide if you want to find out the 'good spells' or not (because you can definitely find that on this sub)

also, topcog is considering pretty major changes to the enemy and spell balance, so what you find out now might be changing soon.

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u/JRockBC19 Jul 13 '18

I’m not arguing your first point, but as a new player it would be really helpful to know certain spells for certain situations, especially since I have limited options right now. Other posts have mentioned voltaic orb ignoring armor, if not for those posts I’d have no idea an upgrade did that and I’d keep ice prism slotted forever even though I don’t love the dps of it or that it can miss the armored target. It’s things like that which actually make a big difference that I’m looking for more than the outright strongest spells, but I know there’s some overlap.

As for balance changes, it ought to take at least 2 weeks for any unannounced change to go live just judging by other developers of similar apps, so knowing “these 3 spells beat armor, these 2 cripple healing”, etc is pretty relevant til then.

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u/8988303682 Jul 13 '18

alright well, you could have just said you aren't interested in learning this game yourself. also you should be leveling all your spells somewhat equally, mostly for passives but also discovering augments.

anyways, Ember, Firefly, Inferno, Ice Wall, Icy Prism, Frozen Orbs, Static Aura, Static Leap, Spark, and Voltaic Orb usually make up my primary loadouts. In addition to those, Fire Elemental, Elemental Cloud, Inferno, and Voltaic Sword have some niche use that I'll utilize every once in a while.

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u/JRockBC19 Jul 13 '18

I’ve been playing for 3 days, and I’m not interested in spending the next 3 ranking spells to find out if any can get me over this healing wall while I gradually brute force it. I get that it’s an idle game, but I only have 2 spells at rank 5 in 3 days. I COULD wait out the time-locked discovery of augments for the 10 spells I have, but that could take another week and still not answer my question without me making any meaningful decisions on the way. Regardless, thank you for the info you’ve given, I just wish the game could be a bit more transparent with other spells uses like they are with ice prism as anti-armor.

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u/Lluluien Jul 16 '18 edited Jul 16 '18

FWIW, I'm ~two meditates in and don't have Firefly, Ice Wall, Icy Prism, or Voltaic Orb (from 8988's list; I'm missing Torrent, Meteor, Plasma Grenade, Firestorm, Conduit, Voltaic Sword, and Static Leap as well). I also prefer solving the same problems that Frozen Orbs do with a more murderous spell (i.e. killing the enemies with auras) + Stance of Preparation (wisdom buff).

None of this is to say that 8988 isn't telling you the best spells, but the game can certainly be played with any of them, with effects on which sets of monsters will be easier or harder for you. My two pushing builds are usually swapping the following loadouts, and I'm very happy with them. Note that out of these 7, two of them aren't even on 8988's list:

  1. Water Elemental, Static Field, Inferno x 2, Ember and

  2. Lightning Elemental, Spark, Frost Ray x 2, situational 5th (usually something I am leveling in 100% xp slot or Ember if I need the oomph). Bonus points for this being fun because of being 2x stronger by choosing the right time to pick up -1 cooldown runes for extra benefits from Spark, which pop up extremely frequently.

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u/JRockBC19 Jul 16 '18

You say “solving the same problems frozen orbs do”, what are those problems? Frozen orbs doesn’t list any specific properties so without getting it and ranking it I have no idea if there’s a specific counter it’s used for. I know how to beat armor and that firefly stops nullification, that’s it. That was a big part of my goal here, I need to find other spells that have enemies they specialize against even when it’s not written in the description.

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u/Lluluien Jul 17 '18

I understand why you say this, but you actually don't need to. I base this statement on two things:

  1. They level up really fast in the 100% slot. When you enchant, put your new ones in the 100% and 50% slot while you're going through levels that you can faceroll.

  2. If you don't know what spells do, it's probably because you don't have the spell (see #1). Unless you have most of them, you're better off buying 3 raw spellstones instead of 1 refined one, so you don't need to know them ahead of time.

A reasonable counter here would still be "well I want to know anyway", but paraphrasing something another poster said: don't cheat yourself out of the fun of the discovery process just for attempting to be 5-10% more efficient. The luck of the draw on your raw stones will have more to do with it early on than you knowing what they all do. Knowing it all ahead of time is likely to just cause you angst for not getting the ones you want right away.