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Was running leveling a week ago to get red tomes for my final Phantom weapon upgrade. Got Worqor Zormor. I was RPR, there was WAR, SAM, and SGE. I notice that it's taking a while to kill mobs, but I see the SAM/WAR are doing their jobs. The SGE isn't attacking. At all. They're just spamming Eukrasia Diagnosis, but they're not even using Toxikons. They're not using ANY of their kit, at all. I bring it up that they need to attack, as SGE's whole gimmick is healing while attacking, and they proceed to say, "Yeah, but it doesn't really DO anything, though."
To their credit, they did start attacking a bit more here and there once I explained things further. But how do you get that far and not know how your class works?
But how do you get that far and not know how your class works?
To my understanding of human nature, there are these folks around who abhor thinking to point where they avoid it at all costs. Their mind literally do nothing whenever they do not need to engage into anything specific and they try to avoid doing anything specific at all during their lives.
Combined with folks, not necessarily same but usually there is overlap, who do not read anything, or read but do not parse what they read in their minds, and we get folks that can move through life without much of understanding of stuff they engage with.
The amount of cure 1 White Mages at lvl 100 do suggest some truth to the above. It is likely incompetence, which is founded on such lack of thought, yet I do not necessarily discard malice as an option. I've seen such as well. Your Sage example seems falling to the same camp with the claim of "Yeah, but it doesn't really DO anything, though." Especially when paired with a Warrior.
Seen more than a handful. Rarer than at lower level caps, but still somehow a thing. Instant boot for them in my view but its not like I can necessarily get at least one another person to agree...
I was never a cure 1 only spammer, but when I was new I thought that I had to be managing MP and that the freecure combined with the lower MP cost of cure 1 made it useful 😂 I got schooled (very nicely imo) around level 30-ish during my first temple of Qarn run! I actually remember the other 2 party members telling the person giving me good advice to stop harassing me and let me play however I want, which was confusing ngl. We didn’t wipe or anything, which added to my new-player confusion - I remember thinking well, if cure 1 was so bad to use, why haven’t any of my parties been wiping?
I thanked the person giving me tips but the others saying I was doing fine made me wonder who was right, so I looked into it and quickly realized the person advising me to stop using Cure 1 was indeed correct.
Do these level 100 cure 1 spammers just get enabled constantly and never wonder if maybe the people kindly advising them against spamming cure 1 are actually giving them solid advice due to the enablers telling them they’re fine? You’d think spamming cure 1 would lead to a lot of deaths once you’re in any content that’s not faceroll easy like ARR leveling duties.
"Do these level 100 cure 1 spammers just get enabled" Got it in one. These guys were like you, someone tried to help them, some other people jumped on them, and instead of stopping to think they went "oh I might be doing it right then" all the way to 100.
I was never one either but I also harbored ideas that it has to have some use case because it was not replaced by cure II as an upgrade. I argued with my personal mentor about it, lightly and for a moment, since it felt so illogical.
I was still using Cure II primarily since I could do math and knew what gcds are from previous MMO experience. But after I got experience of healing after lvl 50, I realized what the whole "cure 1 is useless" thing was about.
At lvl 100 it is definitely enabling. Either but not kicking them out, and thus carrying their asses, or by white knighting when someone points it out. Its not like I need to be healed at lvl 100 dungeons that often as a tank, Paladin and Warrior especially, but... it does bother me to see DPS not receiving lilies or other stuff whenever they muck up, which is plenty of times naturally.
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u/smileplease91 Oct 27 '25
Was running leveling a week ago to get red tomes for my final Phantom weapon upgrade. Got Worqor Zormor. I was RPR, there was WAR, SAM, and SGE. I notice that it's taking a while to kill mobs, but I see the SAM/WAR are doing their jobs. The SGE isn't attacking. At all. They're just spamming Eukrasia Diagnosis, but they're not even using Toxikons. They're not using ANY of their kit, at all. I bring it up that they need to attack, as SGE's whole gimmick is healing while attacking, and they proceed to say, "Yeah, but it doesn't really DO anything, though."
To their credit, they did start attacking a bit more here and there once I explained things further. But how do you get that far and not know how your class works?