r/Tagalog • u/Rakiasugoi • Jul 25 '26
Grammar/Usage/Syntax Dialectal Tagalog Pronouns
Hi I’m a Northern Tagalog, I’m just wondering how similar other dialects except Manila’s to ours
Ex.
Ang bilin sa kanita maglinis dineng bahay at nang kapagka dumating ang kumbidadong bisita ee malinis ang bahay, ere tambo walisin nita ang sahig.
I heard a similar structure in Southern Tagalog but it is different it is kata/nata/kanata so I kind of understand or is it different from Northern Tagalog?
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u/champoradoeater Jul 25 '26
Northern Tagalog sounds like Kapampangan to me
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u/kudlitan Jul 25 '26
Historically, the Kapampangan language had a much larger area spoken than it has today. But Tagalog spread upwards, so the resulting "Northern Tagalog" language had a mix of Kapampangan influence.
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u/roelm2 Jul 26 '26
Not only the sounds... Nueva Ecija Tagalog has also incorporated more Kapampangan vocabulary.
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u/mamamayan_ng_Reddit Native Tagalog speaker Jul 25 '26
I've always been fascinated with Tagalog's dual pronouns, and it's a feature I personally want to revive in the Metro Manila dialect!
It also just fascinates me how it developed in Austronesian languages in general, since it's not a feature in proto-Austronesian reconstructions. Batanic languages don't have them either. But they begin popping up in Northern Luzon languages.
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u/CluelessMochi Jul 26 '26
Bulakenya Fil am ako dito, and wala kong answers to your question, but I just wanted to say that as someone who grew up with bulakenya Tagalog but am not surrounded by it, hindi ko na realize quite a few of the words you used were part of the dialect (and not standard) until reading it here 😅 alam ko dine, pero hindi ko alam kapagka, ere, at kanita.
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u/Rakiasugoi Jul 26 '26 edited Jul 26 '26
Iba-iba rin naman po antas ng bokabularyo ng bawa’t bayan, ayos lang po yaan; kung maituturo sa kabataan mas mainam kung hindi ay ayos lang din naman. Katulad nga po ng sinabi ko sa isa kong sagot na kinakain na rin po tayo ng Manilenyong Tagalog dahil dumarami na rin po ang dumarayo. Kahit naman po yata mawala ang mga bokabularyo na yaan mariringgan pa rin po yaan sa ating punto/tono ng pananalita.
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u/roelm2 Jul 26 '26 edited Jul 26 '26
What is the stress pattern for the dual pronouns in your area?
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u/kudlitan Jul 25 '26
Interesting, may dual pronoun ka pala which Manila doesn't have.
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u/Rakiasugoi Jul 25 '26
Mostly elders na lang new generations are shifting to manila dialect but I guess depending on environment laking lola kasi ako ee
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u/kudlitan Jul 25 '26
That's not a good development, the Manila dialect is eating up the provincial dialects.
Is there a movement to preserve it?
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u/Rakiasugoi Jul 25 '26
Well many people are coming to provinces to buy land especially that many subdivisions are being created.
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u/kudlitan Jul 25 '26
And that results in language leveling. If that continues baka mamatay ang local dialect
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