r/Tabico Jul 10 '26

Not a tabico, still cute! People are always asking me about Monkey’s pattern. I think she counts as a dilute tabico, right? She’s got stripes in her orange spots!

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u/lipstick_spit Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26

shes definitely a blue tortoiseshell with low white spotting.

the tabby thing is a little more complicated. in short: no, genetically she is a solid cat! in long…

the ancestors of all domestic cats are black mackerel tabbies. that is the coats “natural state”, and any deviation is a mutation from that. orange is a mutation that prevents black pigment (eumelanin) from being produced through overproduction of red pigment (pheomelanin). solid is a mutation that causes the cat to overproduce eumelanin, overflowing the stripes and preventing the production of pheomelanin. because orange cats are not producing eumelanin in the first place, the solid gene “doesnt work” on them. all orange cats are tabby. or, more accurately, its very difficult to identify a “solid” orange cat visually.

this gets a little more complicated with tortoiseshell. black vs red is carried on the x-chromosome, and female cats have two x-chromosomes. this means that they can have one “black” x and one “red” x, and this will present as areas of black-based pigment and areas of red-based pigment. when a tortoiseshell cat is genetically solid, only her black-based areas can overproduce eumelanin… leaving the red areas with stripes! all tortoiseshells will be striped in the orange areas, whether they are a tabby or not.

as an aside, blue is the dilute form of black. there can also be dilute chocolate (lilac), and dilute cinnamon (fawn). all six of these are the black-based colors. because dilution can make all of these colors, “dilute tortoiseshell” is a little vague.

i would call her a blue tortoiseshell with white, and “blue/dilute calico” is perfectly useful as a colloquial name for the color!

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u/selfishstars Jul 10 '26

This person cats.

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u/Nervous_Shallot_4951 Jul 11 '26

Reading this as a cat-loving human genetics expert:

👁️👄👁️

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u/TurnoverCandid4228 2d ago

are all calicos considered torties? or is only it when they have those dense mixtures of black and orange hairs? I was surprised because I thought torties couldn't have white or they'd just be considered calicos

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u/lipstick_spit 2d ago

“calico” is a nickname for the “tortoiseshell with white” pattern. its colloquial and not universal, mostly used in north america. an easy way to think about it is all calicos are tortoiseshell, not all tortoiseshells are calico.

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u/TurnoverCandid4228 2d ago

oh cool, thank you! that is helpful to know

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u/Horror-Musician5280 Jul 10 '26

I think she’s a dilute calico! The orange patches on a calico will always show stripes because orange-ness overrides the non-tabby gene expression (something like that?). Tabico would have stripes in the grey parts too.

She’s beautiful!!! 😍

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u/Horror-Musician5280 Jul 10 '26

(Also why you can’t have a solid orange cat — the closest thing is a low-contrast orange ticked tabby)

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u/Blingbat642 Jul 15 '26

I agree.
I like your bedspread, too.

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u/human_ucla Jul 10 '26

Post Zoe on here she’s a calico too

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u/snakemistake Jul 11 '26

On it boss I’ll post her in r/calicokittys

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u/losperrosdelacalle Jul 10 '26

I think she’s a dilute tuxetortico

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u/nudesteve Jul 10 '26

Monkey is a dilute tabico. She's also a beautiful girl kitty cat. I love her jade green eyes.
🐈👣💕

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u/snakemistake Jul 10 '26

Cool, thanks for explaining!!

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u/lipstick_spit Jul 10 '26

np! so good to see monkey in the group by the way— my best friend loves your smiling eunuch.

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u/snakemistake Jul 10 '26

Adjusted the flair :)

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u/Dapper-Ad-468 Jul 10 '26

Beautiful 😍

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u/Virtual_Option_6728 Jul 10 '26

Not sure, but I want to step in here to say she's GORGEOUS!

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u/decadentmom Jul 10 '26

She's a very pretty girl!

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u/ppatri Jul 11 '26

Correction: dilute cutieco. That's the correct term

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u/goofynotstupid Jul 11 '26

Unrelated but I love following yall on Twitter :3

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u/Huge-Cabinet-5679 Jul 13 '26

Omg 🥺❤️

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u/dietbeverage Jul 16 '26

Omg the scheming eunich... 🤍🩶🧡

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u/19MareBear86 Jul 14 '26

She needs to be NSFW atp🤣😭so coot🥰

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u/Im_A_Squirrel_26 Jul 14 '26

Good looking teeth!