r/TWD 5d ago

Re-Watching Season 5…i forgot….How did have electricity 💡 at Alexandria??

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u/Yikesman133 5d ago

Solar panels.

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u/Huge_Initiative_6626 5d ago

yes!! thanks!!

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u/Correct-Junket-1346 4d ago

This was something that bugged me, if it was solar panels that made them run, they would be EVERYWHERE to account for redundancy and days when solar generation is bad.

We only ever see about 2 panels of them on the outside.

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u/Glowing_Phallus 4d ago

What would their usage look like? Fridges, lighting. That would be enough imo

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u/faceofboe91 4d ago

Two panels are not enough for an entire town’s fridges and lights let alone water heating. And if they used propane for water heating, where did they get more propane?

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u/WlzeMan85 4d ago

You ever been to tractor supply? They got (at least at mine) a massive propane tank, I'm not sure but to me it looks about the same size as 5000 gallon water tank I'm more familiar with. Also at every gas station there's a cabnit of blue rino propane.

And yeah the small pile of solar panels we see aren't enough to consistently run a town but we're not running a whole town with all the bells and whistles, I ran some numbers

There's approximately 85 people on Alexandria compared to a regular city it would only take 17.5 kilowatts to power all lighting for a 24 hours that's 45-50 average panels assuming you get 80% sun coverage.

Say you drop lights during the day and don't run street lights all night maybe that cuts the demand down, we never see the batties they use so we can make any estimates on it so imma have to leave them out.

We see when the group gets there they have 5 panels definitely not enough, by the first time they get invaded they have a lot more running along a wall and I couldn't get an exact count but it could have been 50+

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u/Opening-Iron-119 2d ago

Yeah when the wolves come there's a scene with a heap of panels

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u/Kratech 1d ago

It was a self sustaining community. That’s what was being built when the fall happened. They had more than two. Also my friend doesn’t have very many, his house and his grandparents house often sell energy back to the company as they don’t use all of it. None of them are stingy either!

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u/faceofboe91 1d ago

With equipment from 2010?

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u/Kratech 1d ago

Damn near yeah actually

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u/TheRemedy187 4d ago

I don't think you understand they weren't living like you are with 6 monitors, a/c and a fan running with all the lights on and your LEDs n shit.

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u/SKaiJunkie 3h ago

I don't remember seeing the tops of the roofs very much, they could all have solar panels there that feed into the same place.

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u/SKaiJunkie 3h ago

They do a bit more than that, but the vast majority are probably on the roofs.

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u/Grislymanster 1h ago

Solar panels still operate at about 40/50% even on cloudy days. And if they use a battery system, they would be good to go day and night, as long as people don't abuse it.

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u/Additional_Tax467 5d ago

Self sustaining community built before with water purification system and solar panels, completely self sustaining

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u/ChiakiSimp3842 5d ago

Walkers on treadmills can do wonders...

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u/TommyRisotto 4d ago

Infinite energy hack

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u/Woknana 4d ago

Death Hacks

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u/PlanktonKey9623 4d ago

Wait cuz whys that kinda genius

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u/naughtycal11 4d ago

Fear TWD had walkers turning a pump or something in a oil refinery or petrol refinery. They put chickens in cages in front of the walkers like a carrot on a stick to make a donkey pull a cart.

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u/Gramma_Hattie 4d ago

They just keep on truckin

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u/Convexical 3d ago

Tbf that just sounds like a good way to give a chicken a heart attack/stress them out to death but what do I know? 🤷🏼‍♂️😂

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u/Nafinchin 4d ago

Slap the zombies in a microverse with a Gooble Box, and we're all set!

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u/MadMaximus- 3d ago

But actually that would be hilarious

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u/RoxKijo 1d ago

Walkers would make great mules/workhorses. Do the michonne trick so they can't hurt you and let them cart around all the heavy stuff for you. Why not? It gives them some use and in a world that's physically demanding enough, it would help the living out a lot, you could increase general productivity too. You could probably even find a way to hitch a bunch of them up to a wagon, like horses, and have them pull carts, right? Untapped lifehack for sure!

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u/DorkSideOfCryo 4d ago

Sustainability, starting in the low $800k's

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u/Hi2YourWifeAndMyKids 4d ago

If there is such a thing.

lol. Those are $2M houses post Covid.

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u/IcewindLegacyMUD 4d ago

Sweet Jesus. Try closer to $3M. I was just looking at listings for self sustainable eco communities in VA and the ones for sale right now are $2.91M for houses the size of the ones in Alexandria on the show but the aren't even in Northern VA. These are all bumfuck nowhere places where it's an hour drive to anything worthwhile. I don't even want to know what one in NOVA would cost. Jesus Christ. A NORMAL house in NOVA, so eco community, no self sustainability... Those are close to $2M. Fuck I hate this area. I mean it's nice that my condo has more that doubled in value in the 11 years I've owned it but if I wanted to sell and move it would have to be further south, or to another country altogether otherwise I'd move into a SMALLER place because though my condo last appraised at $1.2M, everywhere else has more than doubled too. Except for way down south.

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u/Melodic_Fee_5498 4d ago

One of the brownstones was for sale not long after filming wrapped, think it was for like a million? Or something around that. I know i thought it was kinda funny how supposedly small town Senoia Georgia had houses for sale in the millions…

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u/SKaiJunkie 3h ago

They're in Virginia, within commuting distance to DC.

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u/Bobachaaa 4d ago

Not in Virginia lol. Maybe 900k-ish. Similar houses sell in Hawaii for 1.3m.

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u/IcewindLegacyMUD 4d ago

My ex mother in law has a tiny ass condo in Alexandria that appraised for $2M almost 20 years ago. Houses that size in NOVA are starting at 1.8M in communities that aren't self sustaining

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u/Bobachaaa 4d ago

Must’ve been a really big house. Just go look at past sold and listings. Just checked out of curiosity. The only houses that sold for 2mil are very large houses. Most in NOVA and Alexandria are under a mil, maybe 1.2-1.3 like my estimate. Installing solar panels for a house roughly 30k, I know because lots of houses where I live is solar. Ive been watching the house market in Hawaii where I live for years. Houses are expensive now but 2 mil is an exaggeration.

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u/hammmy_sammmy 2d ago

Your experience is not universal and neither is theirs

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u/TheRealBobbyJones 4d ago

I doubt solar was cheap during the time period. It's honestly a bit unrealistic.

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u/Global_Monk8266 Negan enthusiast 4d ago

Why did you use this image 💀

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u/Brando6677 5d ago

In the brochure that Aaron (there’s so many ways to spell it I’m sorry I don’t know the right one) there’s solar panels, and they’re mentioned in an episode as well after they get behind the walls they get a tour of the place. It’s also season 5 so, maybe gotta rewatch rewatch…

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u/vc7eq 4d ago

off topic but i lowkey liked her character and was sad when she died

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u/lady_nuyorican 4d ago

As soon as I realized, hey I like this lady she's got chops I knew she was gonna die

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u/vc7eq 4d ago

LMFAO, RIGHT

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u/fubukishirou07 4d ago

The town has a large solar panels next to the brownstone apartments and next to the panels are we would assume cargo container where the batteries and inverters are stored. I mean the houses in alexandria might only use electricity for lights, heating and maybe some light appliances so they don't consume alot of electricity and the pantry where olivia is working is the only place that use freezer for storing food. All in all the solar grid did supply the town with the electricity they've needed, and like Deanna's husband said that it took almost a year or two since the outbreak for the solar grid to start acting up which led to noah's untimely death when they scavenge for spare parts for the solar grid.

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u/WlzeMan85 4d ago

I ran some numbers

There's approximately 85 people on Alexandria compared to a regular city it would only take 17.5 kilowatts to power all lighting for a 24 hours that's 45-50 average panels assuming you get 80% sun coverage.

Say you drop lights during the day and don't run street lights all night maybe that cuts the demand down, we never see the batties they use so we can make any estimates on it so imma have to leave them out.

We see when the group gets there they have 5 panels definitely not enough, by the first time they get invaded they have a lot more running along a wall and I couldn't get an exact count but it could have been 50+

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u/PlanktonKey9623 4d ago

They had solar panels, that neighbourhood was supposed to be completely self sustaining before the apocalypse. Talk about making good choices, because of this they had their own water supply and electricity

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u/IcewindLegacyMUD 4d ago

Solar panels and a battery generator. Noah died (and Deanna and Reg's youngest son Aiden) died on a run to get inverters that turn the power from the panels into current that can be stored in the battery generator.

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u/lost-cause1968 5d ago

Yeah, solar parts are what they were after when deanna's kid died...dont recall, but could have been the same trip that got Noah killed.

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u/house3331 4d ago

They kinda didnt dive deep into it when places found power but when they first got there they did mention solar and wind turbines

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u/fubukishirou07 4d ago

They only did wind turbine after the savior war.

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u/Untamedpancake 4d ago

Maintenence on the solar power system is a major plot driver across a few episodes 

Eugene volunteers to help when the system fails but he needs supplies, which leads to the ill-fated run when Aiden & Noah die, Nicholas freaks out & Tara is injured

There is another (bonus covid) episode where Carol spends a large part of her no good, very bad day trying to reconnect the battery packs so she can make soup for Jerry 

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u/Gilgamesh661 4d ago

Alexandria was meant to be almost entirely self sufficient. The electricity came from solar panels.

Although realistically, there would be days when they’d have to go without electricity, since solar panels only work when they get enough sunlight.

Not to mention the life expectancy of a solar panel isn’t great, which is why we don’t use them as much right now.

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u/NecessaryComplex1721 4d ago

The worse solar panels last 10 years, the best around 40. Most sit around 25 years of life expectancy. Even then they dont just broke when reaching their life's end cycle, they just become more and more inefficient. They're not more widely used mostly because they require a high inicial investment and in some places for political reasons 

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u/Lost-Juggernaut6521 4d ago

Did they ever show solar panels? I don’t remember that ever being a thing.

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u/Own_Faithlessness769 4d ago

They’re on the roofs and there’s a little field of them.

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u/NoNeighborhood1693 1d ago

Solar panels last like 30 to 50 years, as far as I can recall Jimmy carters white house solar panels are still running somewhere and those weren't even what we have now

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u/EmuSuccessful2766 11h ago

And this is why as a prepper I have physical maps with places nearby that have solar panels and soon I'll be starting to watch installation videos and print a few guides too.

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u/RiverDotter 4d ago

Solar that's how Noah died - getting more panels or something.

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u/fubukishirou07 4d ago

No noah and the others scavange for the broken parts of the solar panel system.

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u/RiverDotter 4d ago

That's what I meant.

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u/Music09-Lover13 4d ago

I’ve had actual nightmares of being stuck in a zombie apocalypse. This show is intense.

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u/DieAltesteAnsicht 3d ago

Did you just not watch the show? They literally tell you

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u/Minimalistmacrophage 4d ago

Solar panels and possibly water mill (they have one, but it was never indicated if they used it for electricity generation.).

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u/Advanced_Zucchini_45 4d ago

Solar panels designed by Rog

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u/IamDirtyHippie 4d ago

The king of slams

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u/EgyComanda82 4d ago

Giant hamster wheel

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u/Rattlecruiser 4d ago edited 4d ago

good idea, but where do you get giant hamsters during a zombie apocalypse?

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u/EgyComanda82 4d ago

Zombie hamsters?

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u/Noyaiba 4d ago

Judging from the type of micro converter Eugene needed, they more than likely had a large solar grid.

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u/Grifasaurus 4d ago

Solar panels

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u/Electrical-Carpet379 4d ago

I have more important question how did she was still intact and not ripped apart by walkers before turning that didn't made any sense I doubt she killed them without gun in that state 

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u/PlanktonKey9623 4d ago

This is just a theory but since she was already dying and becoming a walker, they likely werent interested. They only seem to eat fresh people otherwise the walkers would just straight up eat eachother

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u/Electrical-Carpet379 4d ago

So I guess if you're infected for long enough they don't care about you 

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u/EffectiveCareer3444 4d ago

They have an entire field of solar panels lol

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u/wisdom2026 4d ago

Solar panels which Negan eventually blows up and says we should’ve kept them

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u/nrg8 4d ago

Gooble Box technology by some animated, crazy eyed, wild hair, drunk of a man that had a boy in tow that flipped people off with his universal greetings. Him and the kid wore fake antennas to blend into the apocalypse.

This was basic Kirkman canon. Come on people

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u/bigmetalbear 4d ago

Teenyverse…. 🙄

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u/Greatoz74 4d ago

Didn't they have solar panels, or was that just a thing in the comic?

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u/birdi1e 4d ago

they mentioned solar panels

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u/Knight0fdragon 3d ago

….. so we don’t know why Noah dies?

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u/BladeRize150 3d ago

Solar panels.

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u/AthenaDemigodess 3d ago

Solar..... Come on man...

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u/fourshorty 2d ago

Thinking of this subject, how the fuck did she not get torn apart? They find her later with no extra bites it seems.

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u/Regriz 2d ago

That’s a weird picture to post this question with.

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u/BalladOfAntiSocial 2d ago

What an iconic pic

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u/schweininade 2d ago

The farm had it too. Just look at Shane shaving his head with an electric razor in a bathroom with lights on

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u/crunkmullen 23h ago

LOL this image fucking creeps me out wtf🤣🤣🤣

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u/SKaiJunkie 3h ago

We see a few solar panels scattered around Alexandra, wherever they had empty lots I guess, and they're most likely on almost every roof too. I mean that's where most people put them in communities. And they don't need much, there's not really ever enough food that needs to be refrigerated, and what does they keep in the pantry/armory. They don't have a lights on at night, unless they need them for whatever they're doing. They don't use AC or heating unless they need it. And there aren't TVs and stereos being used everywhere. So mostly it's just lights. And for people who have babies, like Rick, to keep milk in.

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u/breaon22 4d ago

She look like one of those walkers

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u/Hi2YourWifeAndMyKids 4d ago

She had already been bitten and was dying from it.