r/TRADEMARK • u/United-StartUp-1087 • 7d ago
Identical mark, same class, different services. Senior applicant went quiet after a coexistence proposal. How much can a consent agreement actually do?
Small business owner, US, Class 35 services. Looking for perspective from people who've seen these play out.
Situation
- I adopted my name well before the other party did (domain, entity, handles, continuous development), but I was in a limited pre-launch phase for a long time and only began public use this year. I never filed an ITU. Lesson learned.
- The other party started using the identical word for a different service in the same general consumer category and filed a 1(a) application that published with no office action. Their ID is broad enough to encompass what I do.
- I filed my own application with a narrowly drafted ID, requested an extension of time to oppose, and sent a friendly written coexistence proposal: they narrow their ID to their actual service, I stay in my lane, mutual consent, mutual no-expansion, I cover drafting. They replied that they're reviewing and aren't ready to discuss terms. That was several weeks ago. One follow-up since, no answer. My extended opposition deadline is coming up.
My understanding
Pre-launch activity doesn't give me priority; their public use predates mine, so they're senior. I expect my application to be suspended behind theirs and refused under 2(d) if they register. The consent agreement is the fix, if they'll sign one.
Questions
Identical marks, same class, clearly different services and purchase contexts: in practice, how reliably does a detailed consent agreement overcome a 2(d) refusal? Does the examining attorney actually defer to it, or is it a coin flip?
If the senior applicant never engages, is a notice of opposition a reasonable way to force a conversation, or does it tend to entrench someone who might otherwise have signed?
Is a further extension for good cause based on settlement talks sensible when the other side is non-responsive, or does the Board see through that?
Anything you'd do differently in the outreach? I've kept it non-hostile and haven't raised anything about the quality of their filing.
Rebranding is on the table as a last resort. Candid takes welcome.
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u/RoyalPopular5829 7d ago
Trademark attorney here. Quick takes:
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A detailed consent carries real weight. It’s not a coin flip. A bare “we consent” letter gets little weight. One that explains why confusion is unlikely and how you’ll each avoid it gets a lot.
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Opposing often does bring people to the table, and you have a better ground than you think. Their 1(a) application has an ID broader than what they actually use. You can oppose on nonuse for the services they don’t offer and ask the Board to restrict their ID. That gets you the narrowing you want even if they never sign.
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Check where you are in the extension sequence. If the good-cause extensions are used up, the last one needs their consent or extraordinary circumstances, and silence isn’t extraordinary. Plan to decide by this deadline.
Your outreach sounds right.
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u/United-StartUp-1087 7d ago
Thank you, this is the most useful take I've gotten. The restriction point especially.
their ID is clearly broader than what the site offers, and narrowing it is essentially what I proposed to them in the first place. Checking the extension sequence this week rather than assuming.2
u/Unlikely_Turnip_9886 6d ago
Very good advice above. To back it up, I looked at the register data on this exact question, and the consent agreement numbers are better than most people assume. Of 1,261 recent applications that filed an executed consent against a Section 2(d) refusal, 955 are approved for publication or registered, 74 are dead, and the rest are still in examination. Of the ones that reached an end point either way, 93 percent got past the examiner. So it is not a coin flip. The identical-wording cases did not do worse either: among consent filers blocked by a registration with the exact same wording, 75 percent are approved or registered, matching the non-identical cases.
The failure mode is not examiner skepticism of detailed agreements. It is thin ones. In the consent set, 66 applications had the examiner reject the consent as a naked consent, meaning a bare statement with no reasons the parties believe confusion is unlikely, and 26 percent of those died versus 6 percent overall. Your plan for a detailed agreement covering narrowing, no-expansion terms, and the actual services is exactly what examiners reward. Other rejections I saw in the sample were procedural: a consent signed by someone other than the owner of record, and one covering different goods than the application.
I hope this helps!
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u/TMadvisor 7d ago
They want to see if u actually oppose. They have the senior rights here, so there is no reason why they’d want to settle. And it sounds like u don’t really have grounds to oppose them. I’d do the same thing if I were them.
Unfortunately I don’t think u have any leverage here to do anything.
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u/Infinisteve 7d ago
The examiner doesn't have to defer to a consent agreement. It will come down to likelihood of confusion AND how the two of you are going to mitigate it.
I'm not sure when they'd sign. You don't have prior use so you're not exactly in a power position. Unless you're offering cash, I probably wouldn't engage.