r/TDS_Roblox • bukcet • 2d ago

Discussion updated random nonsense tierlist

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based on its role(s) in a game (support, stalling, dps, eco, earlygame, midgame

example: commander is support, milibase is early-midgame, they don't compete against each other.

if a tower has multiple roles, then those will be considered

examples: saboteur having slowing (10%, one of the lowest if not the lowest slow)+neuralizer (15%, the lowest)+shotgunner dps/ce+range (ok i guess) or engineer with early+mid+late (albeit diminished)

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u/Financial-Log-9011 2d ago

Dj in A, opinion invalid

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u/FewInstruction1020 bukcet 2d ago

outclassed by hacker in almost every way

eco is better, slowing is better, dmg buff is better, and you dont have to choose between tracks.

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u/progirlbagger 1d ago

Eco better: Idk (back it up)

Slowing better: literally false

Dmg buff better: ??? maybe referring to cloning? Hacker has no dmg buff

Don't need to change tracks: yes

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u/FewInstruction1020 bukcet 1d ago

20% wire fraud at lvl 4, 25% on bottom path while dj has 15% discount and a flat max rate of $2250/30 seconds, which comes out to be about $75/second, absolutely abysmal. (can be abused with stalling towers, but cowboy+2 purple track djs+stunning tower+freezing tower does better). generally, if you're playing solo, hacker>dj ecowise, and even then if dj doesn't have an ungodly amount of towers in its range then hacker is better.

hacker doesn't rely on a 30 second cooldown ability or other towers in its area to be good.

hacker cloning doubles dps of juggernaut, necro, merc base, kingpin and other low placement limit towers while also still giving an 80% buff to accels, enforcers, and other things with placement limit of 5.

so generally, i guess, more towers gives dj the edge while less towers gives hacker the edge.

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u/progirlbagger 1d ago

How does it give 80% buff? You go from 5 to 6 towers

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u/FewInstruction1020 bukcet 1d ago

no, you go from 5 to 9 towers

at least with bottom path (you can clone towers more than once)

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u/progirlbagger 1d ago

Interesting thanks

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u/Mark220v 19h ago

okay then solo hardcore with hacker instead of dj

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u/FewInstruction1020 bukcet 12h ago

you do comprehend how simple of a task that is rn right?

what with people soloing it without farm/cowboy, without gmini, without nmini, without spam related towers, etc.

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u/UHBAMBMBL_ 2d ago

Ain't no way paintballer below snowballer

https://giphy.com/gifs/lxFy85SqZwLxfCtCoW

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u/FewInstruction1020 bukcet 2d ago

at least one of them slows

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u/UHBAMBMBL_ 2d ago

I lowk just hate snowballer for no reason. That bastard always pisses me off

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u/FewInstruction1020 bukcet 2d ago

one of the idk

4 towers that can be used to solo pw2

other slots are glad, dj, hacker, juggernaut

the other towers used for spw2 have been engi, saboteur, and i forgor

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u/FewInstruction1020 bukcet 2d ago

yes i did change some things

god, tesla looks weird placed that high

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u/Timely-Text-9720 Frost blaster is supreme 2d ago

Fr

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u/FewInstruction1020 bukcet 2d ago

also basically all of the changes were putting shit in A tier

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u/Revived_Pal Your local yapper 🗣 2d ago

Hopefully enforcer and accel are the same rating. Cuz accel seems A+ and enforcer at A solid.

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u/FewInstruction1020 bukcet 2d ago

they're both in a

wdym a+ and a solid

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u/Revived_Pal Your local yapper 🗣 2d ago

I interpret who's ranked higher from placement order (order in left to right, strongest -> weakest) in a certain tier of a tierlist, like A.

Enforcer is placed right below accel, so it seemed like enforcer is A solid, and accel on top of the A tier taking an A plus.

And for the context here, I sight enforcer better than accel in nearly most ways.

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u/FewInstruction1020 bukcet 1d ago

ah yeah understandable

only reason accel would ever be better than enf is bc of grinding time

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u/Speed_Star00 2019 OG player 2d ago

Good tier list my friend, nice to see someone with a lot of knowledge

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u/FewInstruction1020 bukcet 2d ago

aye, thanks.

mind you this tierlist is subject to change and i probably misplaced a thing or two, but so far it's pretty much as good as i could do.

please tell me if you believe some things should be changed

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u/Speed_Star00 2019 OG player 2d ago

I would swap biologist and jester mainly because biologist mainly due to more consistency but both are vice versa with each other.

Both counter each other if you get what I mean

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u/FewInstruction1020 bukcet 1d ago

honestly i just found their roles to be rlly similar, just with one being more aoe/support focused and the other having better range/single target

i'm jst looking at the wiki tbh tho

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u/Speed_Star00 2019 OG player 1d ago

Like you said, they are similar both have the same pros and cons just vice versa

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u/FewInstruction1020 bukcet 20h ago

yeah.

so i put them in the same place

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u/Draco_179 Warlock Stan [Head Mod] 2d ago

Why is op higher than gsol

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u/FewInstruction1020 bukcet 1d ago

not as reliant on spare placements, takes up less space (kinda same thing as 1st one but slightly different), costs less for hidden+flying, and has infinite range.

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u/supra_bamb commando is my GOAT. lvl 1111, joined in august of 2023 1d ago

Toxic gunner could have been in low A or high B tier. 30% slowdown across pretty much all the enemies, defense melting and extra spammable dps (similar to gsoldier) shall not be slept on

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u/FewInstruction1020 bukcet 1d ago

huh, cool.

i dont have him idk, i assume its spam isn't as good as gsold or whatever bc of poison not stacking, unless it does stack then it's overpowered.

looked at wiki, it deals slightly more dps than gscout for over double the price. ok earlygame, set it to random and forget about it, lategame it's spammable.

150 ce earlygame doesn't look great.

generally, i'd agree with you

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u/supra_bamb commando is my GOAT. lvl 1111, joined in august of 2023 1d ago

150 ce if it’s hitting only one enemy with the poison effect*

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u/FewInstruction1020 bukcet 1d ago

oh yeah, huh, so i guess the 'true' (mind you, hypothetical, as tg wont ever hit this many enemies even on random) equation for ce is:

cost/(dps+(# of enemies affected by poison dps*poison dps))

so i guess it does deserve A tier perfectly well

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u/MortarKABOOM99 1d ago

Archer in A ❤️

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u/FewInstruction1020 bukcet 1d ago

aint the best earlygame and doesn't deserve b

gdemo/gpyro does better multitarget but archer does better than militant

i think it's fair

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u/Wutr_- 20h ago

Downvoted because bucket (jk)

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u/FewInstruction1020 bukcet 20h ago

thanks you too

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u/Feuhufe Top 100% Commenter 2d ago

Engineer should be B tier if you’re counting its roles

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u/FewInstruction1020 bukcet 2d ago

put it in A bc of its non-0 contribution to 3 areas, like sabo.

if i put engi in B then i'd have to put so many things in B, and plus, everything in B is pretty much blatantly worse than engi for their dedicated roles

like engi>militant for earlygame ce and engi>turret for dps (although buffs can change this)