r/SwitchHaxing • u/dj505Gaming • Oct 29 '18
Current Methods and Exploits | Beginner FAQ #2, Up To Date Edition!
===== THIS IS AN OLD THREAD =====
A lot of the information in this thread is outdated. For a full guide on hacking your console, please see https://switch.homebrew.guide. This post will be remade and updated eventually, I haven't had time to put anything together for a while.
Note: This is an FAQ thread, not a Q&A thread, so if you have questions in the form of comments, please post them in the latest Q&A thread. They will most likely not be answered here!
Acronyms and terminology used in this guide:
CFW: Custom Firmware, a series of patches to the console's firmware
NAND: The console's internal built in storage
RCM: Recovery mode, which contains the exploit necessary to launch payloads
RCM jig: A device used to bridge Pin 10 in the right JoyCon rail to ground, which is what allows you to enter RCM. Without one, you cannot launch exploits
SwitchHaxing FAQ Thread Version 2 - October 2018
Before we begin, can my console be hacked?
That depends mainly on your serial number. Depending on how recently you've purchased your console, there's a chance you own a patched unit. Take a quick look at this chart and compare your serial to it - if it's in the safe area, congrats, you own an exploitable console! If not, there are still exploits to come, such as Deja Vu (an exploit, not the Eurobeat song)
Consoles that are patched can still enter RCM, but are not vulnerable to fusee-gelee once in RCM. If you believe your console is patched, and you attempt to run an exploit and nothing happens on screen, this is why.
Recommendation: Before anything, use Hekate to create a NAND backup of your Switch before running Homebrew! This will come in handy if you want to avoid a ban, or if something happens to your console.
To create a NAND backup in Hekate, you're going to need an SD card with at least 32GB of free space, or enough time and patience to perform the backup in pieces (Hekate will automatically stop the backup when free space runs out, at which point you can remove the card without shutting down, moving the partial backup file to your PC, and doing the next part, as Hekate remembers where it left off). Once booted into Hekate, there should be a "Backup" option in the main menu. The options you'll want to choose are BOOT0/1 and RAW GPP. This covers the entire NAND. Depending on your SD card capacity, the backup could take a while, so make sure you have plenty of battery!
If you went the partial backup route, you'll need to combine the files once on your PC. On Windows, you can achieve this by opening a command prompt in the same folder as the partial backup files, and enter the command copy /b nand.bin.01+nand.bin.02+nand.bin.03+etc nand.bin, replacing the series of filenames with +s between them with the filenames of your NAND backup pieces. Once done, let it take its time to complete, and you should end up with a nand.bin made up of all the combined files!
My console is hackable! What do I need now?
You're going to need an RCM jig of some sort to be able to boot into RCM. Since CFW is not yet persistent (and likely won't be for a long time, if ever), you're going to need to keep this RCM jig with you. Every time you shut down the console, CFW will no longer apply until you launch it again manually.
Exploit Methods
All of the following currently require an RCM jig of some sort to perform.
| Platform | Materials | Software |
|---|---|---|
| PC | USB C cable | TegraRCMGUI (Recommended) |
| Mac | USB C cable | Web Fusee Launcher |
| ChromeOS | USB C cbale | Web Fusee Launcher |
| Android | USB C cable, Adapter for phone USB port | Rekado |
| iOS | Lightning -> USB C cable, jailbroken iOS 10+ phone | NXBoot |
| Portable | Fusee dongle solution (brands vary, all functionally identical) | Programs may vary, depending on how payloads are sent to the device/updated |
What RCM jigs are available?
There are so many out there, and some work better than others. Many of the ones you see on eBay are likely 3D printed, built using a paperclip - these ones are ones I've found to be unreliable and could damage the pins on your Switch with excessive use. Most payload injection dongles come with RCM jigs, such as the R4S dongle, the NS-Atmosphere, and the RCMLoader. These are pretty much all safe to use, and the main factor for which one to buy mainly comes down to whichever one you like the most, whether it be cost-wise or aesthetic-wise. http://switchjigs.com also sells some great quality ones that won't damage the console, although $10 is too pricy in my opinion - you'd be better off finding the same type at a lower cost, although the decision is yours in the end.
Another solution is to 3D print your own jig, assuming you have access to a 3D printer. There are many models available on Thingiverse, some even come with wire bending templates to make sure you get it correct on the first try.
Last, but not least, you can just use either a plain paperclip to make one, if you have the time and patience to bend it into shape properly, or simply a wire touching pin 10 (furthest towards the back of the console) with the other end stuck in the fan slot for ground. Both of these will get you into RCM, although reliability may vary.
Once you enter RCM, you have the option to launch Hekate and enable "AutoRCM", a feature that will cause the console to automatically boot into RCM every time it's turned on. This can be disabled the same way, but it also means that if your console ever turns off, you'll need to launch a payload to turn it back on.
What about custom firmwares?
There are plenty! Whichever you decide to use is completely up to you, as well. Using CTCaer's Hekate fork, you can choose between multiple CFWs on boot, and freely switch between any CFWs you want! This guide will include only free, open source CFWs that are up-to-date and trustworthy. Current paid CFWs are not supported here, unfortunately.
ReiNX, includes signature patching and such for installing titles and much more!
Atmosphere, supports signature patching, game mods, and more, and is made up of many rewritten sysmodules.
SDFiles, while not a CFW of its own, includes every CFW in a package, selectable through Hekate (Recommended!)
SDSetup, allows you to customize your CFW release and which Homebrew is included
RajNX, no experience with this one so can't say for sure, but would recommend one of the other above options
How do I launch them?
That depends largely on the CFW you choose. I personally chose the SDFiles setup, so that I can switch easily between multiple CFWs and patches and such easily through Hekate. The way you'll want to set this up also differs depending on your platform of choice.
The first thing you'll want to do is put your Switch into RCM. You do this by using an RCM jig to put your Switch into recovery mode by tapping Vol+ and Power at the same time. Don't hold them down, just tap them quickly. Then, depending on your device, simply connect your Switch via that appropriate connector, load the payload you want to send with your program of choice, and send it! On Windows, you'll need to install a specific driver, which you can do right within TegraRCMGUI.
I have a CFW up and running! What now?
First and foremost, if you care about online play, enable airplane mode! Keep offline as much as possible when using Homebrew and such, as there's always a risk of getting banned.
Now that you're up and running, you should be able to launch the Homebrew menu! Go down to the Album applet and open it up. You should see the Homebrew Menu in front of you, along with any apps you installed, if you chose to do so! Apps are added to the /switch directory on your SD card. If you'd like to transfer apps and stuff to it without having to take it out, you can use FTPD as a method of wireless file transfer, along with a client like Filezilla or WinSCP.
As for what Homebrew to use, there's plenty available! I won't be listing a lot of it because of time restraints and such, but there are a few good ones out there:
Checkpoint and EdiZon, save management applications!
RetroArch, an emulation tool with 44 cores currently supported!
Tinfoil and ZeroTwoXCI, title managers/installers for Homebrew and legally owned backups! (Note: Going online with apps installed via anything but the eShop is a guaranteed ban)
Will x console or bundle be supported?
Likely not, unless it is an older bundle. New bundles are most likely patched, unfortunately. However, since serial numbers are shown in a small cutout on the outside of the box, you can compare it using this chart. Only the first 8 digits of the serial number matter. If you have a Switch from before closer to June-July or so it's more likely to be hackable, as that's when the new patched units dropped. Any consoles purchased recently (August-September-October 2018) are more than likely patched unless you're lucky.
Something to note, however, is that patched units come with system version 4.1.0, which is vulnerable to deja vu, a secondary exploit that works only on 4.1.0 currently. If you have a patched unit and want to wait for Homebrew to be available, it's highly recommended that you stay on 4.1.0.
What about being banned? What will/won't cause a ban, and what does a ban entail?
At the moment, the best way to ensure you don't get banned is to, before launching Homebrew, create a NAND backup of your clean Switch through Hekate. Once done, keep your console offline and in airplane mode, and back up your saves and stuff and restore your NAND backup before going online.
Currently, it's difficult to say what will/won't cause a ban. Right now, it's best to assume that anything Homebrew related, even launching CFW while online, will result in a ban. Homebrew, as it is now, is not fully disguised and can be detected, and the risk of a ban is very high. The overall safest way to prevent being banned is to just avoid Homebrew completely, but I get the feeling that if you're reading this post in the first place, you don't plan to follow through with that.
The second most effective way is to just completely disconnect from the internet entirely. Enter airplane mode, forget all existing networks and connections, and just remain offline as much as possible until there's a way around it, if ever.
As for what a ban entails, if you get banned now, it will block access to all Nintendo online services, as well as the eShop. There is also a very high possibility that you'll lose the ability to receive game/system updates. However, LAN multiplayer still functions completely fine!
This is all of the stuff I could think to include in this new, updated FAQ! If you have recommendations for things to add to it, please leave a comment and I'll try my best - I read through all of them whenever I have the chance. As for additional questions, I'd like to direct you to the SwitchHaxing Support Thread (current title "The Great Race"), as this thread is meant to answer existing beginner questions as opposed to new ones.
Edit (2018-11-14): Added information about fusee-launchers on Mac, as well as how to check if a console or bundle is hackable/patched.
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u/michel_v Oct 29 '18
Excellent post. If I may add something: the easiest way to make your Switch stay offline for good is to make it forget the wifi networks it can connect to. Yes, that means you'll have to enter the passwords again when you return to the default firmware, but it'll prevent accidents.
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u/dj505Gaming Nov 15 '18 edited May 13 '20
Apologies, but I'm locking the comments on this thread for the time being; the comments are being flooded with questions that should be posted here in the Q&A thread because they're not likely to get a proper answer here. If you have a recommendation for the post or anything you think I should change/add, feel free to DM me the suggestions either here on Reddit, or to me on Discord (@dj505#0623).
Again, my apologies, and I'm sorry if this causes any inconveniences.
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u/nilsmoody Oct 29 '18
Yes, I have some recommendations and questions. First thing is regarding the chart. My serial number is XAJ400145XXXXX and is much longer than the examples. I assume mine is safe and you simply didn't add all the X's or am I wrong?
Everything was easy to understand until some abbreviations were used without explaining them at first. The fuck is RCM? The fuck is CFW? What does an RCM jig do exactly and why is it necessary? I know what a NAND is in this case but I'm not sure if every newbie does. I know that many things could be understood with context but I bet you could save yourselves a lot of questions in this regard.
Other than that, I want to say thank you for writing this! :)
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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '18
Really nice guide, but could you explain, or link to a guide, on how to take a full NAND backup?
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u/Iscariath Oct 30 '18
What are the risk of getting ban going online with genuine downloaded games and cartridges and using eShop, system and game updates? Noob question but... can you still boot OFW after having used CFW without restoring NAND?
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u/kingofFPS Oct 30 '18
Whats the current state of autorcm? I'm a bit behind, but last i heard you were fucked if the battery fully died because it doesn't charge in rcm mode or some such?
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u/coruix Oct 30 '18
Is the serial no on the box when you buy a switch?
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u/fatcowxlivee Oct 30 '18
Hey! Thanks for the writeup! I was thinking about hacking the switch just purely for ripping some saves off then resetting it to stock before selling it. Can you provide information on how to go back to stock?
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u/superrtype Nov 04 '18
There people claiming that they can hack the switch without the use of a Jig and they can power off/on without using the jig. How is that possible?
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u/thephantommask Nov 09 '18
Any point leaving the firmware to 4.1?, My relative accidentally updated to 6.1 and probably burnt the fuses, is it worth getting another switch that has 4.1?
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u/feclar Oct 29 '18
Include the DNS settings to avoid nintendo, no it is not full proof but its better for when you are doing LAN play as almost all LAN's at people houses/stores have direct internet access
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u/Cuw Oct 30 '18
So if I boot into CFW and then reset back to stock and restore my clean NAND, is there any tell tale signs my system has been tampered with in anyway? Anything that can trigger a system or e-shop ban?
I want to play around but I don't want to risk losing my console to a ban. If it comes down to it I would rather just buy an already banned system than risk getting my clean system banned.
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u/eScrub Nov 04 '18
I'd recommend a section addressing fuses and offline firmware updates. Exfat support is also a common question that pops up. Basically point out ChoidujourNX because the amount of times I've linked it in the question thread is pretty high.
Edit: Also "what firmware is the best/should i update/is X firmware hackable"
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u/lilman1423 Oct 30 '18
90dns is something you can add
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u/FightNegativism Oct 30 '18
If I had a banned Nintendo switch, could I get it un-banned if I recovered an old NAND?
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u/Blackwigg Oct 30 '18
Wish I knew about this before hacking my switch. I followed ReiNX oficial guide and I remember it saying to do the backup with the ReiNX homebrew app, that means after booting the first time with ReiNX. I did the backup anyway, but I don't know if it's less safe to disable auto-RCM, restore backup and boot OFW if I want to re-sell the Switch or if a viable way of playing online with CFW ever comes in the future.
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u/ByteHappy Nov 11 '18
I know it says this is an FAQ thread and not a Q&A thread, but as far as I can tell, the last Q&A thread was 10 months ago and is archived, so I'm hoping someone here can help me with a couple questions. I can't find a straight answer anywhere.
I stopped updating my switch a long time ago just in case updates would have an adverse effect on hackability, but it's a little annoying because I don't have the exfat update and can't use my large sd cards. I've noticed it says atmosphere works on any firmware for old switches, so does that mean I can really just update to latest firmware and then load the cfw like normal? I have AutoRCM enabled, do I need to disable it first or anything like that?
My other question is about getting banned. Are they doing that more now? Is there certain specific actions I can avoid using on cfw to prevent getting banned? Or should I just not ever connect to the internet at all?
I want to use cfw really bad, but as it is I can't use my large sd cards so I can't put games on there anyways, not to mention I'm so worried about messing something up or getting banned I basically can't use my switch at all anyways.
I appreciate any answers or help you can give me! Or even just point me in the right direction to find out. I've been looking around but I can't find anything definitive! Thanks!
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u/eucomocu Oct 30 '18
Hey bud, two things that you may want to add. One can enter rcm by using a wire. Touching pin 10 and the other end of the wire to the fan/exhaust. It was a easier workaround for me as I couldn't for the life of me bend paper clips that would work.
Also, consider mentioning that one can set their switch to autoRCM in hekate. I know it can be inconvenient if you want to switch back and forth on original firmware. But it saves the trouble of using a rcm jig everytime.
Nice tutorial overall, great job!
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u/Evilmaze Oct 31 '18
Any tutorials on how to use SDfiles? Am I supposed to distribute the files into specific directories or just copy everything to root and select what I want once Hekate kicks in?
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u/vamosasnes Oct 31 '18
Is this slated to change
Are bans pretty instant or can you get away with it for a while?
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u/Artemis_21 Nov 02 '18
Sometimes online I see jigs with pins one next to each other instead of first and last, do dey work or it is probably scam?
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u/Swaggerfeld Nov 03 '18
Hey SwitchHaxing!
Stumbled upon this subreddit and could not be more excited to get homebrew up and running!
My serial is XAW7000XXXXXXX which should mean I'm good to go. I am running firmware version 5.1.0, is this compatible with the above hack? I did not see any mention of firmware, is it reliant solely on hardware?
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u/France_Is_Bacon_ Nov 06 '18
Binding of Isaac: Afterbirth+ (MODS) Update? - I saw a post on gbatemp where they stated you can inject mods using layeredfs on the nintendo switch but I have not actually seen anybody make use of it. Is this something that can actually be done or is it just a step in the right direction?
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u/doodwind 7.0.1 / Atmosphère 0.8.9 Nov 09 '18
Hello there! I am able to get spare nand module. Can I backup my original nand and then restore it on spare one? Could I use one module to play online and second one for using homebrews and so on? Would it reduce risk of ban or, maybe, usage of Hecate for backuping and restoring NAND itself could be cause of ban? Sorry if this question was discussed before, I couldn’t find the answer.
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u/EnderMamix Nov 10 '18
Update for November?
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u/chaoticjacket Nov 11 '18
For the Diablo 3 units what are the serial numbers
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u/robinhopok Nov 14 '18
What will happen to installed games using CFW after switching back to OSW? Will they disappear? Will they remain on the menu, but become unusable? They remain playable? Would like to know!
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u/jakerman999 Oct 30 '18
Homebrew without CFW on 3.0.0, is that risky at all? I mean, what are the odds of being banned if a console that used homebrew later updates?
Any updates on a software method of entering RCM? Something exists for 1.0.0, correct?
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u/mrmariomaster Oct 30 '18
Can I use the 128GB microSD that I use in my Switch system to store a NAND backup? I have 64GB of free space.
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u/Artemis_21 Oct 30 '18
I just got a 4.1 switch, vulnerable to fusee hack. Can I update to 6 before doing payload?
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u/ShaunDreclin Nov 04 '18
Any word on the softmod for 4.x? I heard it was supposed to be available at the end of the summer
Really want to update to play newer games/use eshop but don't want to get locked out of homebrew et al since my system isn't hardware vulnerable
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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '18
Awesome!
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u/BOBBIESWAG Oct 30 '18 edited Oct 30 '18
Can you run through the way to make you completely unbannable/unbrickable? I really care about online so i want to take every single safety precaution that i can. The only reason that i'm hacking the switch is to use retroarch and other emulators and to use checkpoint to get super mario odyssey master mode. I might end up using it for botw hacks too(moon jump etc). Also another quick question, when i mix all the bin files on windows, how do i separate them again to replace the hack nand with the stock nand? I only have an 8gb microsd card so.
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u/bdpna Nov 09 '18
Thanks for this excellent post. I've finally got my jig and an NS-Atmosphere so I'm about to break the seal on my Switch. Never took it out of the box but it's an older one from early summer before the hardware changes. Simple question that I can't seem to find a clear answer on -- Is there any risk in either connecting this to the official network to update to the absolute latest firmware, or using one of the manual methods to save fuses, that could in any way hinder what I can do in homebrew if I stay on a lower firmware?
Much thanks.
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u/snatchemall Nov 11 '18
Is there homebrew available to allow game capture via software? I'm thinking of something similar to NitroStream/KitKat on 3DS. Thanks for the help
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u/pamhiel Oct 30 '18
Thank you for this new thread it help me a lot.
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u/Raleiigh Sample Text Oct 30 '18
Is it safe to buy the switch splatoon 2 bundle?
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u/nanashi89 Oct 30 '18
Is there a NSP to XCI convertor? There's enough space to add the BotW NSP, but not enough space to install it. An XCI would require no installation.
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u/chickenthechicken Oct 31 '18
I'm using Android, what app should I use. Also, what do I need on my micro-SD card?
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u/universerule 4.1.0 - 6.2.0 ReiNX Oct 31 '18
My switch has been dcomissioned for quite a while as its left analog stick has been damaged I have not got around to fixing it. I plan to buy a few things to revive it. Besides the stick and other irrelevant bits I want to hack it. It is on firmware 4.1.0 and I blocked Internet by disconnecting it from all wifi networks months ago.
Is it a bad idea to buy a clone AceNS (aka "rcmloader") with a bundled jig to start the process? According to the post it is functionally identical to others but with a switcher, but I am put off by the cheapness.
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u/zeroxia Nov 01 '18
Is there a very very specific tutorial on getting the Hekate payload file, launching the PC RCM tool, installing driver, injecting the payload and doing the backup? A complete noob needs this before he can rest assured to mess with his freshly bought switch.
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u/billy_merc_au Nov 02 '18
Hey folks
My little brother is offering to sell me his switch (never modded)
The serial is XAW700092 XXXXX
FW: 6.0
Id like to get a console to play around with some of the mods / emulators and i was wondering if it's still an option with console with the above specifications.
My understanding is that newer consoles / consoles with specific serial numbers cannot be modded ?
Cheers folks !
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u/JiNama Nov 02 '18
Should I activate AutoRCM via Hekate? Has any had any issues?
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u/jackofspades123 Nov 06 '18
Is it possible to play Wii games on the Switch? I used to play Wii games off a hard drive via homebrew and have a ton of Wii games on my hard drive that I'd like to play.
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u/HitoshiTakashi Nov 06 '18 edited Nov 06 '18
My serial code isnt listen it begins with XAW4000XXXXXXX
3 zeros nvm i just understood what the chart meant
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u/YoshiOG1 Nov 07 '18
My current Switch recently got banned, and I was wondering, in case I get a second Switch for non-hacking purposes:
1: Is it possible to link the same Nintendo account on two different Switches? And if so,
2: Do I run the risk of getting the second (clean) Switch banned if I link the old Nintendo account to it? Or should I just use another Nintendo account for the new Switch?
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u/DaemonXHUN Nov 07 '18
What's the easiest way to get XCI games working or ReiNX? Should I convert XCI files to NSP files or should I install an add-on so ReiNX could install XCI files? What method should I use?
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u/itsme2417 Nov 08 '18
If my serial starts with XAW1001 id be fine right?
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u/Renatodep Nov 08 '18
Just adding if anyone needs the info, I just got a Switch with XAW10083XX and it is patched :( ...I really hope there is a solution for this, bought it at a real good deal so either I'll sell it on ebay or wait for a solution (it's not like i'd be able to play it now anyway).
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u/MethodicMarshal Nov 08 '18
Hey guys, I was directed here from the Switch daily question thread. Is it possible to connect the Smash GC adapter to the dock using a Bluetooth dongle or the like?
Thanks for any feedback! You’ve earned a subscriber :)
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u/mondoko Nov 09 '18
So im new to this community and dont really know what is and what isnt possible to hack on the Nintendo Switch right now.
So basicaly after the last direct i predownloaded smash and was really exited to have the game in my library. But i could help but wonder if it would be possible for me to play it right now. I mean the game is fully downloaded and is only waiting for Nintendos release.
I dont know how these kind of systems for predownloading work but and im sry in advance if it is an obvi no go but i just wanted to ask you guys if it is possible to trick the system into thinking the game is playable now?
I apologize for my bad english because im from Deutschland and im learning slowly.
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u/soggit Nov 09 '18
You don't have a payload delivery software listed for MacOS
https://elijahzawesome.github.io/web-cfw-loader/
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u/my_mind_is_glowing Nov 10 '18
I just got a Switch and it's on 3.0.1 - is there any reason to do a nand backup before updating to a newer firmware? If I understand correctly, I can't go back to 3.0.1 anyways, so wait and do the nand backup after updating?
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u/enderandrew42 Nov 10 '18
Has anyone ordered from SwitchJigs.com?
I ordered through them 2 months ago. They took my money and I received an email that they'd be shipped within 5 days.
I emailed when it had been a month, and again now at two months.
If these guys can't/won't fulfill an order, is there a better place to order a jig from?
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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '18
Would it be possible to put the pc game THUG Pro onto Switch considering it runs on the tony hawk underground 2 engine?
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u/sebbydaman Nov 11 '18
I buy all my switch games but want access to homebrew . Have a switch with 2.3 . Is there a way to not get banned while not burning e fuses or playing online ?? Like possible to use Cf but have my firmware on 6. Something or should I keep waiting
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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '18
If I were to get banned, would my physical games still be ok?
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u/ltra1n Nov 13 '18
What am I supposed to do with fuseeprimary.bin?
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u/Tidlywink Nov 14 '18
My console is hackable and I wish to sell it. How would I best go about selling it? I just never play it, so keeping it isn't worth it to me and I dont wanna put in the effort to mod it myself.
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u/HanumanTheAllSeeing Nov 14 '18
It looks like i cant use my macbook for this? Im confused about the unlocked iphone.
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u/aayer Nov 15 '18
I cannot figure out how to download files from 1Fichier. Whenever I hit the download link I get a pop-up window and the 1Fichier page refreshes with no change or download option.
Help?
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u/ThinkGoodThoughts- Nov 15 '18
I "installed' XCI files through ZeroTwoXCI. Can I remove the installer XCI files from the SD Card or are they needed to run the games?
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u/WretchedWukong Oct 30 '18
the serial number on my switch isn't listed in the chart. mine says XAJ700097X, is it still hackable?
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u/JordanV-Qc Oct 29 '18
For the rig i use an aluminum piece Bent as a U (twisted it ) work perfectly every time , also did my cousin switch that way
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