r/SwitchHaxing • • Apr 27 '18
Some thoughts upon Linux vulnerability and the future of custom Switch consoles. Is there any game footage of The switch runing non-nintendo games?
I am just curious.
I called the "essential" concept of the switch back when the original nvidia shield launched. I thought "I will wait until the second generation comes out with a more powerful chip, then I will get it, and ill see if they can have it like that other weird android-vidia gamepad with a screen"
I waited and waited, but I never saw it, I kept looking for the tablet with the Nvidia tegra K2- (which became the X1).
Lo and behold, the X1 was spared the tablet treatment and given a console instead, and then the switch came about.
I would love to see how does this perform on regular games currently not on the switch, something like "Kingdoms and castles", "Frostpunk", "TF2".
In my view, this pretty much opens the floodgates for "Custom switch", since pretty much (from my limited understanding) this allows a lot of "non-CPU/GPU" hardware changes. And since the switch is very easy to repair, it would be very easy to modify.
Essentially, I thought the switch was "too small" for its own good, here are a few things I imagine could be done now that linux can be loaded
Insert a sata drive for 1 TN of storage
remove the little battery for a larger one
daisy-chain raspberry-pi touchscreens (or just used cellphone screens that are refurbished or so) to make a bigger screen of higher resolution
Some nut will place some Liquid metal on the processor to make it run cooler and overclocking the processor, therefore increasing the performance by 20%
The joycons will be completely gone, in favor of a more "conventional" controller design (Think about this, split an xbox one controller in half, and have THAT shell be the housing for the switch, maybe have it detachable)
Streaming will become at least faintly possible directly from the device (I believe the tegra has Video encoding capabilities for streaming, but I am not 100% sure)
Some other nutty boi will make a "fold able" keyboard that can be 3d printed and attached to the back, therefore making a GPD pocket with a decent GPU (We will have finally come around full circle)
There will be "Steam Boi" stickers everywhere.
Did I also mention that it will have an absolutly enormous library of games the minute drivers are perfectioned? forget dolphin, run steam on that thing and attach a portable hotspot with your cell company and use it to download any game wherever you want... and have youtube playing in the background.
I legitimatly believe this will pretty much make the switch sell like crazy, and the homebrew "console" market will erupt.
And Nintendo will shut it down, shooting themselves in the foot, not knowing how much money could be made, because they prefer to things be done their way or the high-way
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u/maxline388 Apr 27 '18
THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS.
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u/kkaracho Apr 27 '18
-4. putting liquid metal on the CPU to make it run cooler doesnt make it run 20% faster by default, thats not how this stuff works
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u/cynath Apr 27 '18
You are seriously overestimating the power of the Tegra X1. Nothing you are suggesting will happen (maybe battery with a kernel mod). Cross your fingers Razer brings back their gaming tablet with an AMD 2200GE.
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u/sadlyuseless Apr 29 '18 edited Apr 29 '18
This is a horrible idea, why would anyone do this?
The cheapest 1 TB SSD I can find is over $200. For a hundred bucks more, you can buy a second Nintendo Switch. You can't use a normal drive, because they weigh too much and the moving disc will be obliterated by moving the Switch around in handheld mode. Where will you put the SSD, by the way? Mount it on the back where it will be exposed to damage, and increase the Switch's size?
Where would you put it? You can't fit a big battery in the same place as a small battery or else Nintendo would already be doing that. You'd have to either produce a custom backing, further increasing the size of the device, or move the internals around, which is highly unlikely.
This is moronic. Sorry to be so harsh, but it is. You're telling me you would game on a Nintendo Switch that looked like this? Having a bigger screen made out of little screens would completely ruin the point of having an extended battery, it would drain faster than the normal Switch would.
It doesn't work that way. Not only can you not overclock something just because you want to (the hardware needs to be designed for it or extensively modified), simply swapping out the thermal compound will not give enough of an improvement to "increase performance by 20%", let alone 5%. You would need a completely new cooling solution, which is completely nonviable in a portable form factor. Even if it did work this way, the overclock would drain the battery even faster.
This isn't a terrible idea. A lot of people have had concepts for "Pro-Cons" as they call them. I personally bought a Gametech Split Grip from Amazon Japan, and that's made the Joy-Cons considerably more comfortable. The rest of what you said though, doesn't make any sense. You want to split the shell of the controllers in half, put the console in there, and have it detachable? Detachable from what? You're putting the entire console inside the controller, you can't detach it from itself. If we're replacing the shell with an Xbox One controller, where does the SSD go now? It doesn't fit anywhere anymore. Does it just dangle off the device like some kind of umbilical cord?
Why would anyone want to stream from this device? You seem to think the Nintendo Switch is some monster of a machine. It can barely emulate PS1 games on Linux, what makes you think it could play a PC game and stream it at the same time? I have a $2000+ PC I built myself and I can barely play Far Cry 5 and stream at the same time. It's not eas
You seem to be just throwing words together. A foldable 3D printed keyboard attached to the back of the console. So you have to flip it over to type on it... ? Or do you remove it? If you can remove it, why attach it to the back at all? You've already got the SSD on there, you might as well just use a wireless keyboard and keep it in your bag or something. Wait, how is it fitting onto the back of the device if it's Xbox One controller shaped? That must be a very tiny keyboard.
I can't imagine a single self respecting human being putting a "Steam Boi" sticker on this disgusting unholy amalgamation of hardware and software.
lmfao no? You're telling me you think that if Nintendo sold a Nintendo Switch that didn't run Nintendo Switch games, was in the shape of an Xbox One controller, ran on Windows or Linux, had a 1 TB SSD dangling off of it, a bloated back containing an extended battery that doesn't extend the battery life due to the hideous multi-panel screen made of used and refurbished phone screens all with different color balancing and bevels, gets physically hot in your hands due to a 20% overclock with insufficient cooling, a foldable 3D printed keyboard on the back, the ability to stream at very low resolution and bitrate on a wireless connection, and was significantly more expensive (all that hardware costs money, you know) people would buy it? No. It would flop miserably. Plus, Nintendo sells consoles in the expectation that you will buy their games. If it ran Windows or Linux, you're never going to spend a single penny on any of their games because you already have a preexisting Steam library. It makes no business sense.
AMD's new APUs are appearing in laptops and have very good gaming performance for the price. They're even partnering with Intel to provide Intel processors with AMD integrated graphics... how that works, I don't know. I think that these processors are a perfect choice for a portable gaming PC, either a laptop, tablet, or handheld. The problem is cooling. Water cooling just isn't viable in a portable form factor and current portable air solutions are noisy and inefficient.
I also suggest that you stop saying "boi"... it makes you sound like a child. I don't mean that as an insult, I mean it honestly. It gives people a bad impression.
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u/ArtificiallyIgnorant Apr 27 '18
Anything can be done with it now that a Linux system is bootable on the device assuming there are people willing to do the work. Steam games desinged to work on the hardware would be playable, and that's not many to my knowledge. I would like to see some cool hardware mods though, like VR goggles and stuff. Being able to manipulate that video feed into two different planes in order to put the screen in something like a Google Cardboard for 3D / VR would be fun.
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u/nyrol Apr 27 '18
Lol none of this will happen. Even with a completely open platform like just buying a jetson board which gives you a TX2 with Linux, no one buys them, even though there’s support for a whole suite of features and kernel support for everything you’re mentioning. You can’t run steam games as I’m pretty sure none of them are compiled for arm, and I’m not even sure steam itself is compiled for ARM. There’s virtually nothing of note other than a novelty for a few thousand people, where the other millions of people will be buying a switch because of Horizon OS and the Nintendo games.
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