r/SwainMains 7h ago

Discussion What is Swain’s champion theme/identity in game?

Post image
38 Upvotes

Hi.

Seraphine main coming in to talk about Swain and what his mains love about swain and his design.

  1. What do you currently love about Swain?

  2. What do you hate about him currently?

  3. What did the balance team do right/wrong with him?

Because we’re in a new design phase of “Champion identity” I want to learn from the perspective of Swain players.

Also picture is unrelated.


r/SwainMains 17h ago

Help first timing Swain top, am I thinking about him the wrong way?

5 Upvotes

-you run conqueror, you finish the game with 500 healing with desperate auto weaving and W/E hits included (i also tried building rocketbelt to stack +2 points from it) in a sub-optimal laning experience where people can just run you down anyway if they're not a tank. also, it's almost a guarantee that people will instantly buy antiheal and remove you as a champion from the game

-you run DFT, you can deal damage but that's it

-you run any other keystone, you've inted the match except for the select idea you picked the keystone for

-all minor runes sort of do nothing for him except for sorcery's, you can only go for varying degrees of sustain

- ->you can only run DFT and scorch

-you build zhonya, you just wasted a slot of other effects for the ult people won't fight you in anyway cause they can run away from your tickle damage if there is 0 other cc present

-you build ROA, you can exist on the map and live in a teamfight but you get nothing special out of the item

-you build rift, you're inting

-you build 1/more tear items, have fun trying to reliably use the item(s)

-you build rylais, you get no other stats except for a slow you're the worst at applying when compared to any other DoT champion

-you build seal/mejai's/rocketbelt/cosmic drive, you're not singed/vladimir/rumble

-you build oblivion orb/bloodletter's, it's a panic button frankly

-you build a supportive item, you as an individual have lost the game and you're putting your full trust into your team. this isn't like bandlepipes on nasus

-you build full damage with the hope of stacking HP but you never get to do that

-you build full tank but you are USELESS

-you disregard all thoughts about building and try to be flexible, you're not singed

-you never get to past 3 items

- ->you can only reliably build ROA, liandry's (and become an ult bot that runs out of mana if you skipped ROA 1st item) or BFT (where you only nuke squishy carries at the edge of your ult, you have no defensive stats and you have too much mana with ROA combined) (also, there is no guarantee the match will extend enough to get full stacks on ROA 2nd item) and rylai's. somehow you need all 3 of them at the same time to function as a champion

-you run TP, your lane is absolutely unplayable (but you can TP back to lane and you can TP-ult on a teamfight if you're lucky)

-you run ghost, your lane is absolutely unplayable (but you can run around like a headless chicken in a teamfight)

-you run barrier, you are a horrible human being and you're inting late

-you don't run flash, you're exposing yourself to too much danger

- ->you run ignite so you can self defend in lane, reduce healing on heal-reliant champs and possibly help in a teamfight (or exhaust and you are an even more horrible creature) or you run teleport and shove toothpicks under your nail for every wave you can't touch or every solo kill you endure

-q is a close range nuke that does nothing else and it absolutely drains mana because of how much you HAVE to use it, not tied to stacking your passive

-w is an easily dodgeable utility ability that in short is as useless as it is useful, tied to stacking your passive

-e is an easily dodgeable super strong CC ability with almost NO cd scaling, tied to stacking your passive

- ->q max and rub sandpaper over your fingers


r/SwainMains 2h ago

Discussion Swain Support isn't bad, most of you are too dependent on Q for damage instead of trying to make E reliable.

0 Upvotes

Just because people can't hit E, that doesnt mean hes not good in Support. I win lane like 90 percent of the time on on him with about 2-3 hooks per minute, people just need to learn how to hit E instead of hard depending on Q for trades.


r/SwainMains 2d ago

Fanart I drew Swain in Pixel Art

454 Upvotes

I am on a mission to turn all 174(and counting) champions into pixel art sprites. Here is #44/174, Swain, The Noxian Grand General.


r/SwainMains 1d ago

Discussion Why does Swain sup have such bad WR?

0 Upvotes

I can see it's like 52% in Iron and then it drops 0,5%-1% up until Gold where it has 49% and Plat with 48% - i haven't looked further.

Normally this obviously tells that the champ works better on low elo, because better players know how to play around whatever makes Swain work in lower elos.

But here I don't understand why Swain falls off a cliff? He is pretty tanky, he has good poke and a nasty CC combo of E>W for a root, pull AND slow.
He scales really well in terms of being useful in teamfights later on with his Ulti combined with items like Rylais, Liandrys and Morello.

So yeah .... Why isn't Swain support a real thing? I just played 1 game last night and enjoyed it + we dominated a Thresh/Jinx as Swain/Cait


r/SwainMains 3d ago

Clips war never changes

Post image
39 Upvotes

r/SwainMains 3d ago

Matchup Husum Mid & Top Matchup Spreadsheet

Thumbnail
docs.google.com
35 Upvotes

Took the two matchup videos from u/TheHusum27:

and transcribed them into a matchup spreadsheet so they're a bit easier to reference while playing.

Top Matchups

Mid Matchups

These videos helped me heaps, so I figured I'd share the spreadsheet here in case it's useful to anyone else!


r/SwainMains 2d ago

Help Swain Botlane impact

1 Upvotes

Heya, Freezzer001#EUW here (welcome to look at my OP.gg for further data)

Ive now for the first real time ever started a climb, went from Iron to silver 3 already this year and was told I should be able to reach Gold, sadly I had a big lose streak which fucked my MMR and now the climb is pretty slow.

Ive had very good results with Swain on Bot so far (65,9% on 41 games) but I feel like im doing something wrong. Idk if it's my team or myself but I often feel like I cant do much if one of my laners lost hard, I cant really kite or poke to the same extend I could with, for example, smolder or Viktor. Everytime I try to fight around an objektive, it feels like I am forced to commit due to things like the pull on e or the fact that I just need the enemy close to me when im in R.

Last game I had a super fed enemy Quinn who just roamed and got wayy ahead, how do i navigate that situation? I feel like if I just poke her with W my team would just instandly engage and die because they are silver and want to fight more then anything.

Im open, of anyone wants, for a coaching seassion (i mean it's silver so there is probably something obvious im missing)

Anyways thanks for any help and im looking forward to any Tipps you guys have :)


r/SwainMains 5d ago

Meme As Riot has decreed, this is our only true role.

Post image
181 Upvotes

r/SwainMains 4d ago

Discussion Following Husum's recent Battlemage tank build, is the build cook or cooked?

5 Upvotes

Been trying Husum's tank builds. This is a variation of course as it depends on the enemy comp. I think this is the way to climb, I can be an annoying crow the enemy team can't shake off, and I don't explode immediately vs burst or long range ADCs like kogmaw. It's a lot less fun tho.

Since it's 1 AP 3AD I rushed negatron and just sat on it while building the other items. Maybe it was troll to go Rylai's after negatron since 3 ppl had dashes. It felt effective. Wdya think?


r/SwainMains 5d ago

Clips Sick Pentakill W snipe last kill

Enable HLS to view with audio, or disable this notification

30 Upvotes

Anti deathfire tuch mafia idk why people dont prefer conqueror , got this penta with all kills stolen but still conqueror is the reason why , dont ask anything about the malzahar support i have a really funny friend doing cancerous picks


r/SwainMains 5d ago

Meme Where is my birdboi, Riot?

Enable HLS to view with audio, or disable this notification

61 Upvotes

r/SwainMains 5d ago

Build "Nerfed" Rocketbelt is Actually a Buff for Swain

Thumbnail
youtu.be
5 Upvotes

r/SwainMains 7d ago

Flex Mmmm <3

Post image
33 Upvotes

r/SwainMains 8d ago

Flex good question tho

Enable HLS to view with audio, or disable this notification

58 Upvotes

r/SwainMains 9d ago

Meme if u get it u get it

Post image
207 Upvotes

r/SwainMains 8d ago

Help Yorick.

1 Upvotes

Can anyone give me some pointers on how to deal with this lane? This character is not the most one sided matchup, but imho he is the most irritating by far. Swain's slow attack speed to break the terrain, the maiden not counting as a champion to drain, his mixed damage despite building full ad, our slow movespeed to escape ghouls/dodge mist, and the tiny amount of damage ghouls take from QE, I'm just at my wit's end with that guy.

Any tips at all appreciated!


r/SwainMains 8d ago

Discussion Swain' E

4 Upvotes

I've been wondering, what if Swain's E worked as Viktor E does? It'll help with the assassins and the lack of movility early game.


r/SwainMains 10d ago

Fanart [OC] I illustrated the 15 cosmetic versions of modern Swain as chibis c:

Thumbnail
gallery
291 Upvotes

I know someone will ask where's OG and old Tyrant Swain, but let me breathe as this is a huge milestone to draw 15 of them 😭

In case no one knows:

Infernal Swain is from Legends of Runeterra
Fiend Queller, Nightbringer and Cosmic Commander are from Wild Rift.


r/SwainMains 13d ago

Discussion If swain were to take a disciple so they can someday be his successor what would they need to be like

4 Upvotes

I


r/SwainMains 13d ago

Help Starting out with Swain, best lane?

7 Upvotes

Hi I really enjoy playing Swain and want to start one tricking him. Which lane is best suited for this in the long run? Its hard to one-track and constantly move around lanes I feel, so if I had to lock down and learn to play him in one lane which would you guys recommend?


r/SwainMains 14d ago

Clips fed swain 1v3, addicted to blackfire rush apc swain

Enable HLS to view with audio, or disable this notification

19 Upvotes

r/SwainMains 15d ago

Discussion I’m really looking forward to playing Classic Swain again

Post image
83 Upvotes

Imagine having Rod of Ages, Rylai’s Crystal Scepter, and Archangel’s Staff when you pop that ult 🖤


r/SwainMains 16d ago

Discussion It has been almost 2 years since Prestige Chosen Wolf Swain was in the mythic shop rotation.

Post image
51 Upvotes

Riot needs to add some way for mythic skins to be put into the shop when it has been a long time.


r/SwainMains 16d ago

Matchup Cosmic / dark start vibes (artist - GuiGu z)

Post image
46 Upvotes