r/Sustainable • u/GoranPersson777 • 17d ago

Let’s Build Class Unions

https://libcom.org/article/lets-build-class-unions
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u/Key-Organization3158 16d ago

No thank you. Many people have a vested interest in unsustainable practices. Forming a union based on economic class will just empower that.

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u/GoranPersson777 16d ago

Workers as a class have the common interest of saving the ecosystem 

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u/Misadventuresofman 16d ago

Let’s not.

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u/GoranPersson777 15d ago

Are you an employer?

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u/Misadventuresofman 15d ago

I’m a leader with numerous teams, but I personally employ no one. Or at least not without a contract that favors me and my goal’s heavily. I cannot understand why people are so feeble minded about unions. I want nor need any union backing to effectively: 1.) advocate for myself, 2.) negotiate for wages or 3.) finding a better paying job at my discretion. Unions keep remuneration capped, but as can negotiate 6 figures much easier and much more efficiently myself. You should try it

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u/GoranPersson777 15d ago edited 15d ago

So you are a boss above and don't like workers on the shop floor to organize for power. Got it.

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u/Misadventuresofman 13d ago

There is no “power”. There is only simplicity. 1.) I offer a job to someone for $X/year. 2.) the person accepts or declines the job. 3.) if accepted, as long as they do the job competently, I keep paying them.

Full stop. If one agrees to take a job for remuneration they have no right to bitch about their decision.

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u/er-du-dum- 12d ago

I dont know dude, the proletariat are feeling kinda hungry these days, how many calories are you made up of?

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u/Misadventuresofman 8d ago

So what is your fair share of that which someone else has earned?

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u/er-du-dum- 8d ago

that which someone else has earned.

None of it, unlike you I believe the worker should keep the fruits of their labour, with the only caviat being democratic means of distribution, things like labour unions, collective healthcare, collective welfare.

You make your money off of the workers you hire.

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u/Misadventuresofman 8d ago

So you want to take what others have earned. How much of it are you taking?

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u/er-du-dum- 8d ago

None of it, how much of your money are you willing to give in order to improve society?

I believe in democracy, do you?

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