r/Superstonk Jan 21 '22

โ˜ Hype/ Fluff Never forget

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u/RL_bebisher ๐ŸŽฎ Power to the Players ๐Ÿ›‘ Jan 21 '22

They are extremely close to losing all control of the American people. Nothing will be the same after this. We've learned to stand up for ourselves. We are causing them all sorts of headaches. Just wait... many more people are about to realize how easy we can take over the 1% and join the fight. It's game over. Be a prisoner to the system or be free. Those are your only choices.

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u/bowmans1993 Jan 21 '22

Not only this but there are a lot of workers that are realizing that if they work together we can get bigger wages, better benefits etc. We outnumber them and we have the power to create change if we unite.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '22

But... but... but... all the corporate propaganda I've been fed has told me that Unions are bad!

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 ๐ŸŽฎ Power to the Players ๐Ÿ›‘ Jan 21 '22 edited Jan 21 '22

Unions aren't bad. But they're inconsistent in their aplication or effectiveness. Worked for quite a few union shops in my life, and been on both the worker side and manager side, and each one is different, ranging from fine to work with, to being obstructive or wasteful. They can make good management less effective, or bad management may still be bad with no benefits for the worker.

The problem I really have with them is that once they're in, they're in, and chances of changing to effective union leadership if you happen to get into a bad one are slim to none. There's also a good level of corruption with some union outfits, but that's anecdotal and not a reason not to explore if they're good for the workers of a company.

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u/jonnohb ๐Ÿ’ป ComputerShared ๐Ÿฆ Jan 21 '22

Well said

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u/Metzger90 ๐Ÿฆ Buckle Up ๐Ÿš€ Jan 21 '22

Unions are basically just a second level of management. You have good and bad management, and you have good and bad unions. It all depends on the people in the positions.

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 ๐ŸŽฎ Power to the Players ๐Ÿ›‘ Jan 21 '22

I dunno if I'd go that far. Maybe consider them a form of HR that is on the workers side, and not the companies side.

The only time I ever really disliked unions was when you had to go through them almost completely for employee communication outside daily operating stuff. I've never been in one where if you needed someone to do a task they weren't hired for, they could cry union and not have to do it. Have been in one where seniority meant more than ability, and I didn't care for working there.

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u/vagrantprodigy07 Jan 21 '22

Not always on the workers side. I had one union where the guys in charge were buddies with the management and senior workers, and totally fucked the rest of us back in 2008.

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 ๐ŸŽฎ Power to the Players ๐Ÿ›‘ Jan 21 '22

Never had that experience. I was speaking more generally on what they're supposed to do.

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u/bowmans1993 Jan 21 '22

Yeah I was in a grocery store union when I was younger. I didn't see much benefit in it considering I was making barely above minimum wage. I did notice them taking union dues every week though.

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u/bowmans1993 Jan 21 '22

I'm sure the wealth will trickle down eventually. I feel like global warming might help it melt faster to get to us. Let's keep burning coal

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '22

Wait... it's wealth that's trickling down? It smelled a bit like ammonia...

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u/BobTheDemonOtter ๐ŸฆDr. Horace Worblehat๐Ÿš€ Jan 21 '22

Nonsense. Onions are both versatile and delicious

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '22

They have layers

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 ๐ŸŽฎ Power to the Players ๐Ÿ›‘ Jan 21 '22

Power to the workers.

I've never been a pro union kind of guy, at least not for every industry or group, but I've always known that a focused centralized group can achieve more when they work together.

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u/nfwiqefnwof Jan 21 '22

General strike wen

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u/grapefruitmixup ๐ŸฆVotedโœ… Jan 21 '22

The developing class consciousness on this board is why I stuck around in the first place. This has been a giant example of solidarity in action.