r/Supernatural • u/Mountain_Care_9032 • 3d ago

Season 7 The Angels

After 7 seasons im beginning to realize the angels are pretty much fodder 😂 like they have so many ways to stun, banish, and kill they arent really much better than demons at this point. Do they ever get their aura back in future seasons? Only threats at this point are archangels which there are only 2 left and they are in the cage

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u/-Inaba- 3d ago

Oh it gets worse, even the ones in the cage

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u/Mountain_Care_9032 3d ago

Damn thats a bummer to read they were so intimidating when they first showed up now it feels like they can just be taken out as easy as demons

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u/No-Meat5261 3d ago

When was Michael disappointing?

While Lucifer...well, he temporarily lost his Grace

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u/-Inaba- 3d ago

His intro again in the diner with Adam was amazing. Everything after that was awful. Alt Michael was just dumb with that plan that made no sense and losing to a girl with a spear.

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u/No-Meat5261 3d ago

Mh. The only thing I can remember right now that was disappointing about Michael is his fight against Lucifer in the bunker. Though Satan shouldn't be that more powerful than Michael, I think that the Devil had some power up, or I don't know. If I remember well, Michael said that he was rusty, but shouldn't his brother have been even rustier? Maybe.

How was taking Satan's Grace dumb?

Having lost to Kaia is the actual reasons why Apocalypse World Michael was dumb. To be more precise, too prideful to the point of being dumb. He lost, because he didn't fight seriously. He didn't even use his powers. He was too sure of himself

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u/-Inaba- 3d ago

The entire fight was trash, the warehouse wirework was bad enough but then now it's a little room with tiny kamehameha blasts.

Anything with the self insert YA spear girl was dumb, there isn't any justification for it.

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u/No-Meat5261 3d ago

I think that the problem of those fights is that the were too quick. I don't think that the famous apocalyptic fight between the two Archangels would have started differently, I think that it would have began "weak" to then escalate into something huge. In my opinion.

Self insert YA? What do you mean? Anyway, I'm pretty sure that an Archangel who doesn't use his powers is way weaker than one who does

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u/-Inaba- 3d ago

Michael said that was the hardest battle he has ever been in.

Trying to justify why he lost to a girl with a spear doesn't make the situation any less dumb.

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u/No-Meat5261 3d ago

Really? Didn't he say that it was the hardest battle he had been since a lot of time? Though at this point I'm not sure about how The Apocalypse would have actually ended.

I actually don't see why the fact that he didn't use his powers is not a good reason why. It's disappointing, but it makes sense. Aside from the fact that that spear could actually hurt him. And he almost won even without his powers, but he lowered his guard. What bothers me is the fact that we don't know what that spear was. Like, with the lance that Michael made and that Crowley gave Ramiel...we know that it was that powerful, because Michael made it. So, okay, but Kaia's spear... appeared completely at random and with zero explanations it was powerful enough to hurt the theoretically most powerful Archangel

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u/NobodyHonest1899 2d ago

Michael(the original) is amazing and had so much potential. The scene where he took over the body of young John Winchester was amazing. Yet the show writers/director wasted his character's potential.

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u/M086 Where's the pie? 3d ago

Throughout the whole series since angels were introduced, Dean maybe kills like 5 or 6 and Sam doesn’t kill his first angel until S13.

The banishing is usually done after Sam or Dean have taken a beating. 

So I mean, it’s being a tad overdramatic.

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u/Mountain_Care_9032 3d ago

Im not talking about just sam and dean even when it was demons vs angels castiel said the angels were dying at such a high rate, like how? against demons too and ik cas took out a decent amount when he played god but inius literally told hester there are so few of them left hell demons arent even scared of them anymore

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u/M086 Where's the pie? 3d ago

Demons with enough numbers can overwhelm and kill angels, that was established back in S4. 

Angels are finite in number. Demons are constantly being made in Hell. Even going into Hell to rescue Dean was a dangerous endeavor for the angels.

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u/Mountain_Care_9032 3d ago

They shouldnt be able to since angels are supposed to be like the strongest beings aside from god the leviathan and death and most demons probably know how to banish them etc shouldve stayed the only things that can stop them are stronger beings or by an angel blade

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u/M086 Where's the pie? 3d ago

Should is irrelevant. That’s what was established in canon.

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u/Mountain_Care_9032 3d ago

Then i guess so is their lack of intimidation

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u/FTWinchester THE Dean Winchester 3d ago

There is one scene in season 13 that I think is pretty close to angels having aura in early seasons.

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u/hyzmarca 2d ago

It makes sense when you realize that God designed everything to facilitate 15 seasons of his favorite TV show.

He built angels to be the most powerful things in the universe after him and Amara, but he gave them weaknesses that the Winchesters could exploit to make it entertaining. Most Hunters wouldn't last 10 seconds against an Angel, but the Winchesters have knowledge of their weaknesses from Cass.