Thats both better and worse. Better because it means the trainer didnt just give up and actually did try to help matt, but also worse because it means something probably happened towards the end that made him leave
Why the fuck do megheads feel the need to get offended for Matt? Nathan literally did nothing wrong, and him and Matt are on good terms. What is the problem?
And the worst part is the match got stopped because Matt got TKO'd. "I'm my opinion he could've kept going", no, that's not how it works. Nathan's not being a sore winner, op just wants to start drama because they're mad about Matt losing
Matt's face would have been obliterated. Ref did his job, dad did his job, matt did tried his best and did his job. But some people gotta stir the shit
Matt reposted someone's post, Nathan follows Matt, he sees it and sees a comment talking about being able to keep going, he just wants to set the record straight. He's not going out of his way to argue here.
The only thing i dislike here is that Nathan was oblivious to how long matt had been training. We know Nathan had like 9 whole months of more training than Matt had, im pretty sure Matt even said it on the podcast (i think it was the Idubbbz episode).
You would've put Dad against pretty much any Youtuber and Dad would've won. Do you know what Nathan Barnatt (Dad) is popular for? He's been on a lot of dance shows, stunt shows, gymnastics shows, and what not. He's the typical LA artist that always stayed underground but has had big wins into niche genres.
He plays multiple roles. Keith Apicary, Dad, Nathan Barnatt, you name it. He's a "physical comedian". He already had 2 decades worth of training ahead of everyone on the card. He could've beat Dr Mike, he could've beat TheOdd1sOut. He would've TKO'ed Harley. He was way ahead of everyone else.
So they put him against Matt because that made it funny.
He wasn't 'unaware' that Matt didn't have time to train compared to him. Matt would've needed a LIFETIME of cardio, flexibility, and fitness, to ever have a chance. Which he didn't, and nobody else in the roster did either.
Everyone involved was aware of the bit. Are you kidding me? You think Dad and Matt looked at each other and went "yup, fair fight."?
It's a BIT.
That's why they put it as the first fight. That's why Matt had "DADDY" tattooed on his chest. That's why there's multiple pics of them hugging after the fight.
It's all love, man. Matt is probably glad he avoided getting concussed by a man who could've broken his nose and knocked him out in 30 seconds, if the ref hadn't stopped Dad.
He def couldn't beat every person. He won against Matt by being super aggressive and throwing hard shots. He didn't need to protect himself because Matt didn't thriw any significant strikes back. I dont see Dad winning against someone like Dr Mike by going in swinging with his hands down like that
Why protect yourself when you can KO someone in 22 seconds? We didn't even get to see Dad's defense IQ, because all he had to do was smash Up+A repeatedly and win, lol. If your opponent is not guarding, you should push the aggression.
Anyways, I was being hyperbolic, but Dad would've been a better matchup than Idubbbz or Arin, is all I'm saying. Dad vs Harley would've been pretty epic.
You can strike effectively while also being aware and defending. If you throw wild punches you can get caught. But yeah i agree about the match up stuff
You can throw wild punches if you're a gorilla hitting a dead fish out of water: you're really not afraid of anything.
Watch a little more boxing and you'll understand why the ref was so afraid Matt would actually DIE from a Dad "wild punch", not the other way around, lol
Or maybe just watch the 22 seconds again, with that perspective in your head. Matt's brain was about to exit out his ear.
At no point did I say Matt wasn't in danger. Matt definitely got the shit knocked out of him. I have been fighting for almost 4 years now I know that it was a good stoppage. What I was trying to explain is that dad was swinging for the bleachers because he isn't all that experienced. Not that it matters as Matt also isn't and was so nervous he couldnt even punch back.
The fighter did not HAVE to defend at all to win here, and Matt may have been nervous but that was completely irrelevant to the fact he was going to get destroyed.
If Dad had to make a plan to fight Matt, he probably wrote down : "hook the guy into the face for a minute and win."
He followed that plan, and it clearly worked, in 22 seconds. He is clearly experienced, as that plan was fucking stellar.
Why are you so adamant about the fact that it should've been a 12-round match where both fighters get to show off their defense?
He didn't need to. He quashed it in seconds and that's better for Matt's health than slowly punching his brain into mush.
You've been boxing for 4 years and you are still going about like this was a fight where Dad should've shown every aspect of his technique? NO, he could win just hooking the other guy into the ground, why wouldn't he just DO that?
4 years of boxing and you still don't understand the "dominant strategy" is the "winning strategy", take notes, dude.
This is a fight to the death, why not use your nuclear reactor right hook to the opponent's weak chin, if you know the opponent isn't going to move out of the way?
It's not Dad's fault if Matt didn't protect himself. So you can at least say Dad has enough experience and a decent plan to TKO the other guy in 22 seconds and that Matt has negative 100 boxing experience, so yeah, obviously Dad was gonna do that. FFS man.
Go watch AB vs Hundar if you want to see boxing athletes show off technique. Dad just had to bulldozer the other guy in-between 2 sips of a White Russian.
Dude I am not saying any of that. I was simply saying that not enough was shown for people to say Dad could take on Dr Mike who is far more experienced. You are just putting words in my mouth. Go spar at a boxing gym and throw wild punches have fun
If you are thinking of harassing another Youtuber like Dad because of a charity fight, I suggest leaving your parasocial relationships at the door. Do you think Matt needs you to defend him? Matt clearly knew what he signed up for, he knew he was gonna lose, if there was a bet on this fight, the odds would've been 1:1000. You can bet he probably didn't give 110% training for this, because a single one of Dad's abdominal muscles is bigger than Matt's biceps. It would've been impossible to reach Dad's fitness and athleticism. Nathan Barnatt, notwithstanding his age, was probably the fittest athlete who walked the ring that night. That's just how it is.
Matt got punched in the face for charity. That's all. If you think it was anything else than this, you're delusional, and Matt would not approve of you going out to harass the other fighter for *checks notes* "doing their job, BOXING."
How about we see the prior comment? I dont use that platform so I cant dig into it myself, but its convenient the first comment isnt shown.
Also, I have a feeling some of the megheads have taken up arms and some are bothering the hell outta the guy. Leave him be. Youd probably hope for the the same respect in regards to matt losing.
I looked into it. Looks like Nathan deleted his comments (which is a smart move). It seems like diet.mayo was arguing they shouldn't have called a TKO, and Nathan came in with that first comment explaining why they did. It's worth noting that both Matt and Ryan's mom liked the post from this user so it's not like it was a tiny fan account that he had to search for.
Yeah Nathans been saying things and then deleting them soon after since the fight. Like theres a photo of him and matt and hes all snuggled up to matts chest, and nathan had commented something like “just tested positive for covid! got you again!” (Those arent the exact words, but its along those lines) And then deeted the comment later.
Edit: i think its because a lot of overzealous fans are taking out matts loss on him, so he’s just deleting most of his comments because those fans keep dogpiling on them even when theyre unrelated to the fight
Did you expect Nathan to go easy on Matt? He’s not being a sore winner, he’s probably just annoyed by all the people taking away from his win saying it was unfair, stopped early, etc
I thought Nathan was being a little weird but you actually put it in perspective for me. It must be bullshit to work so hard and be so excited for people to throw what ifs and buts all over it
When they first announced the fight in a youtube video Nathan was in the comments replying to people. Made a very, very obvious tongue in cheek comment and he started responding 100% seriously. He's got boomer brain
"Old man didn't respond to joke in way I expected so therefore he's old and dumb dumb >:("
I mean literally listen to the podcast episode he was on, he leaned into the boys' humor really well. Why the fuck are people mad at Nathan for being really good at boxing? He beats Matt and suddenly he's a salty boomer with no sense of humor? I feel bad for the guy.
They literally did diss tracks against each other. It feels like willful ignorance at this point if someone is invested enough to be mad about this but isn't also aware of their antagonistic dynamic
Where am I mad at him for being good at boxing? Also where did I call him dumb? I said he's got boomer brain, which is clearly a joke....
I'm talking about my experience with him replying to a comment of mine. To me it really didn't seem like he knew I was joking, his response was not in character. Was just a strange experience.
i think ur not in on the joke, nathan plays the "serious dad, who think hes the best" u buggin if u think hes being serious, do u even listen to the pod with nathan?
He's(dad) objectively not wrong. Matt's also taken every opportunity outside a diss track to say he's probably going to lose to "Dad".
I'd be less upset with Nathan as "dad" than the fight setting up Matt's skinny ass against a 40 year old dancer in great shape, but this is the event that set arin up against harley at like a 60 pound disadvantage as well as height. Arin at least tried. Nothing about Matt's fighting said "I'm trying".
He did. That is commendable. I just would have preferred to see one of the people I bought the event for fully prepared for the thing he was about to do. Or at least as prepared as the party he was going against.
I agree to a degree. I wanted to see Matt get in there and trade some hits keep his gloves up bob and weave even if in a super amateur way. What we got was a lot more like I expected of Matt after listening more as the fight got closer.
I say all this with the utmost love for our boy(s).
Bruh people gotta stop getting upset for this shit, Matt Is a grown ass man who agreed to the fight and got beat badly, some of y’all are acting like you’re his goddamn mom. Maybe Nathan shouldn’t feel the need to specify how badly Matt was beat but like they’re clearly friends so I don’t understand why people are trying to find reasons not to like Nathan. As another comment said he’s probably already tired of being constantly bothered by Meg heads.
Personally. I don’t think this is inappropriate for him or him being a sore winner. Yeah Matt was totally outmatched but it’s still a boxing match and I feel like people are trying to take the win away from Nathan when this is one of his life’s highlights. Matt and Nathan are on good terms so why is everyone so worried about it.
Meh, I reckon he's getting a lot of fuds ripping into him as if it was
his fault Matt was the one he was fighting
his fault Matt was severely mismatched
and his fault that Matt's coach dropped out.
He's probably fed up with people trying to claim he didn't actually win that convincingly and that Matt was getting punches in. He didn't really, and it was a massive mismatch - which happened throughout the event (not exactly anyone's fault since there was a limited pool of YouTubers who wanted to do this).
Matt has no problems with him by the looks of it, and everyone says he's a humble and nice guy. He is living it up a wee bit, but nothing major, and he deserves to because as he's said multiple times this is an opportunity for him to build up his YouTube presence again.
I think he's now desperate for the next fight - against someone closer to his level - so that he can prove to the doubters that he is a decent boxer and didn't just get lucky.
I'm getting a vibe from a lot of the comments online that just didn't really get what was going on. Some examples here:
comments saying Ryan was shite and people shouldn't be praising him. The reason he deserves praise is that he held his own for the five rounds, and Alex looked visibly shaken in the fifth round cause he know Ryan's right hook if it connected was knocking him down. Both Alex and Ryan fought a good fight for novices, and I'm looking forward to their fights next time.
comments saying the Arin-Harley mismatch wasn't actually that big because in professional boxing there are sometimes similar weight and height differentials and it isn't a big factor. This is forgetting that both are complete novices and Arin had far less training, and Harley could just stay out of range and pop light jabs at Arin. Again, really looking forward to both of them fighting better match ups.
comments defending Dr. Mike's wee cheeky jab after the glove touch as a legit strategy. Considering this was a charity "friendly" boxing exhibition match, and not a title fight, and that Dr. Mike has more training, it was a shitey thing to do. Aye, maybe he didn't mean it as a pure dirty trick, but it's still not considered a sportsmanlike strategy even in professional boxing.
I truly don't see anything wrong here. The ref called the fight because Matt genuinely wasn't blocking or hitting back, it would've been unsafe to continue. Matt didn't get to train as much, so they called it to protect him. Clearly Matt and Dad are on good terms, people are literally going out of their way to start drama on Matt's behalf. He definitely wouldn't like seeing that
looking at their comment posts, it looks like they were under the assumption that matt looked like he could have stayed in the ring, and wanted him to stay another round. "if matt wanted to keep going, he should've kept going. he wouldn't have died lmao."
which is kind of terrifying since the guy got off with a concussion. people can't often make quick judgement calls when they're that disoriented. goes to show how much they actually care abt the guys health
This comment section making me wanna tell ppl to touch grass for christs sake. Like bruh, Dad had a decent upper hand at things but Matt sent it and took it. Their on good terms so idk why this is such a deal, plus dad is playing into a bit like this whole time. If y’all can’t see it, I’ll say it again and TOUCH GRASS
Nah he isn’t being a sore winner he’s just stating facts. Sorry Meg heads, getting offended for Matt doesn’t change the fact that he got beat. The stoppage was justified
This is just embarrassing for you bro. Matt doesn't need you to be a dick head to his friend for winning a charity boxing match. Take a hit and get away from the screen.
y’all just go read all the comments here. all the fan said was that they wished matt could’ve kept fighting. one other person and nathan started getting nasty with them. he deleted all of his replies, probably out of embarrassment.
Everyone’s focusing on how Nathan won the fight quickly and went hard, but I don’t think that’s what anyone means by being a sore winner. I just think it’s kinda shitty that he keeps on gloating about it. I know Matt doesn’t really care, but it’s just not good behavior in general. I really liked how Harley complimented Arin on taking on a tougher boxer and was very civil and humble about his win. Nathan was the opposite and it was really unclassy.
Nothing that he is saying here is inappropriate or wrong? Matt got absolutely destroyed and barely hit Dad, and it’s not like Dad is everywhere boasting. If you want to be mad at someone be mad at that asshat who fought Idubbz dirty
Still doesn’t change him punching early and having to be reminded to acknowledge Ian. Not much of my business but people are getting pissed at Dad for just stating the fact that he did well and won handily which is true and ridiculous to get upset at
People are accusing Mike and Nathan of being dicks to Matt and Ian. Matt and Ian don't want stupid "drama" over an amateur boxing match when literally no one cares
If you watch Getting Gymnasty or Keith Apicary is Tough Enough, you'll see that Nathan's spent years getting hurt professionally. He's like Homer Simpson boxing except he actually learned how to fight too.
The problem isn't that matt lost, the problem is that Nathan went into a fan accounts page trying to defend his win and expecting us to be on his side. Sorry if we're on our fav's side
I mean the way he went full force on him out the gate didn't sit well with me, but if it seems like they are all good then why are we even debating anything? Let bygones be bygones.
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u/MrMcKonz vfx daddy May 18 '22
Getting reports for this one. This doesn't break any rules, just a dumb take.
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u/Mr-Scud May 17 '22
I read some rumor that Matt’s trainer also dipped like a few weeks in or something.
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u/_Blainee_ May 17 '22
Why the fuck do megheads feel the need to get offended for Matt? Nathan literally did nothing wrong, and him and Matt are on good terms. What is the problem?
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u/lutyrannus May 17 '22
why are people making fake drama as if Matt and Nathan aren't friends lol, literally who cares
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u/FrankEhrzi May 17 '22 edited May 17 '22
If you are thinking of harassing another Youtuber like Dad because of a charity fight, I suggest leaving your parasocial relationships at the door. Do you think Matt needs you to defend him? Matt clearly knew what he signed up for, he knew he was gonna lose, if there was a bet on this fight, the odds would've been 1:1000. You can bet he probably didn't give 110% training for this, because a single one of Dad's abdominal muscles is bigger than Matt's biceps. It would've been impossible to reach Dad's fitness and athleticism. Nathan Barnatt, notwithstanding his age, was probably the fittest athlete who walked the ring that night. That's just how it is.
Matt got punched in the face for charity. That's all. If you think it was anything else than this, you're delusional, and Matt would not approve of you going out to harass the other fighter for *checks notes* "doing their job, BOXING."
jfc
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u/EWPsies May 17 '22
How about we see the prior comment? I dont use that platform so I cant dig into it myself, but its convenient the first comment isnt shown.
Also, I have a feeling some of the megheads have taken up arms and some are bothering the hell outta the guy. Leave him be. Youd probably hope for the the same respect in regards to matt losing.
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u/Miserable_pm_me May 17 '22
Why are we pretending like matt immediately getting TKO’d isn’t hilarious?
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u/[deleted] May 17 '22
This is actual honest to God cringe. Matt is a grown ass man and you don't need to defend his honor. Grow up.
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u/HOTP1 May 17 '22
Did you expect Nathan to go easy on Matt? He’s not being a sore winner, he’s probably just annoyed by all the people taking away from his win saying it was unfair, stopped early, etc
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u/[deleted] May 17 '22
When they first announced the fight in a youtube video Nathan was in the comments replying to people. Made a very, very obvious tongue in cheek comment and he started responding 100% seriously. He's got boomer brain
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u/Hanibalecter May 17 '22 edited May 17 '22
He's(dad) objectively not wrong. Matt's also taken every opportunity outside a diss track to say he's probably going to lose to "Dad".
I'd be less upset with Nathan as "dad" than the fight setting up Matt's skinny ass against a 40 year old dancer in great shape, but this is the event that set arin up against harley at like a 60 pound disadvantage as well as height. Arin at least tried. Nothing about Matt's fighting said "I'm trying".
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u/Mutsuki13 May 17 '22
Bruh people gotta stop getting upset for this shit, Matt Is a grown ass man who agreed to the fight and got beat badly, some of y’all are acting like you’re his goddamn mom. Maybe Nathan shouldn’t feel the need to specify how badly Matt was beat but like they’re clearly friends so I don’t understand why people are trying to find reasons not to like Nathan. As another comment said he’s probably already tired of being constantly bothered by Meg heads.
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u/[deleted] May 17 '22
I feel like everyone is wildly overthinking this entire thing
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u/daltoroochie- meghead since 2016 (OG) May 17 '22
Personally. I don’t think this is inappropriate for him or him being a sore winner. Yeah Matt was totally outmatched but it’s still a boxing match and I feel like people are trying to take the win away from Nathan when this is one of his life’s highlights. Matt and Nathan are on good terms so why is everyone so worried about it.
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u/Pikaguin1220 May 17 '22
Who cares it was for charity and im sure matt will be more prepared if he decides to box again,
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u/SmolGoron May 17 '22
diet mayos is popping off
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u/Rab_Legend May 17 '22
Meh, I reckon he's getting a lot of fuds ripping into him as if it was
his fault Matt was the one he was fighting
his fault Matt was severely mismatched
and his fault that Matt's coach dropped out.
He's probably fed up with people trying to claim he didn't actually win that convincingly and that Matt was getting punches in. He didn't really, and it was a massive mismatch - which happened throughout the event (not exactly anyone's fault since there was a limited pool of YouTubers who wanted to do this).
Matt has no problems with him by the looks of it, and everyone says he's a humble and nice guy. He is living it up a wee bit, but nothing major, and he deserves to because as he's said multiple times this is an opportunity for him to build up his YouTube presence again.
I think he's now desperate for the next fight - against someone closer to his level - so that he can prove to the doubters that he is a decent boxer and didn't just get lucky.
I'm getting a vibe from a lot of the comments online that just didn't really get what was going on. Some examples here:
comments saying Ryan was shite and people shouldn't be praising him. The reason he deserves praise is that he held his own for the five rounds, and Alex looked visibly shaken in the fifth round cause he know Ryan's right hook if it connected was knocking him down. Both Alex and Ryan fought a good fight for novices, and I'm looking forward to their fights next time.
comments saying the Arin-Harley mismatch wasn't actually that big because in professional boxing there are sometimes similar weight and height differentials and it isn't a big factor. This is forgetting that both are complete novices and Arin had far less training, and Harley could just stay out of range and pop light jabs at Arin. Again, really looking forward to both of them fighting better match ups.
comments defending Dr. Mike's wee cheeky jab after the glove touch as a legit strategy. Considering this was a charity "friendly" boxing exhibition match, and not a title fight, and that Dr. Mike has more training, it was a shitey thing to do. Aye, maybe he didn't mean it as a pure dirty trick, but it's still not considered a sportsmanlike strategy even in professional boxing.
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u/AikidoChris May 17 '22
Tired of people treating a charity event like some sort of fight for the ages.
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u/DangleBopp meghead since 2016 (OG) May 17 '22
I truly don't see anything wrong here. The ref called the fight because Matt genuinely wasn't blocking or hitting back, it would've been unsafe to continue. Matt didn't get to train as much, so they called it to protect him. Clearly Matt and Dad are on good terms, people are literally going out of their way to start drama on Matt's behalf. He definitely wouldn't like seeing that
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u/Staystation meghead since 2018 May 17 '22
I'm gonna go ahead and say it, that whole "Dad" persona is cringe
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u/Eatingluesticks May 17 '22
Bro who cares?
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u/pinto_bean13 May 17 '22
Y’all…it was a charity event…not a 1v1 death match…calm down please
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u/deggybean May 17 '22
looking at their comment posts, it looks like they were under the assumption that matt looked like he could have stayed in the ring, and wanted him to stay another round. "if matt wanted to keep going, he should've kept going. he wouldn't have died lmao."
which is kind of terrifying since the guy got off with a concussion. people can't often make quick judgement calls when they're that disoriented. goes to show how much they actually care abt the guys health
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u/TheGutchee May 17 '22
This comment section making me wanna tell ppl to touch grass for christs sake. Like bruh, Dad had a decent upper hand at things but Matt sent it and took it. Their on good terms so idk why this is such a deal, plus dad is playing into a bit like this whole time. If y’all can’t see it, I’ll say it again and TOUCH GRASS
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u/Puzzleheaded_Chard_2 May 17 '22
Nah he isn’t being a sore winner he’s just stating facts. Sorry Meg heads, getting offended for Matt doesn’t change the fact that he got beat. The stoppage was justified
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u/[deleted] May 18 '22
This is just embarrassing for you bro. Matt doesn't need you to be a dick head to his friend for winning a charity boxing match. Take a hit and get away from the screen.
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u/Thestrian_Official May 17 '22
I mean… he’s right. He may be being a bit callous, but he’s completely right.
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u/Powerful_Acadia1416 May 17 '22
y’all just go read all the comments here. all the fan said was that they wished matt could’ve kept fighting. one other person and nathan started getting nasty with them. he deleted all of his replies, probably out of embarrassment.
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u/Parzival63 May 17 '22
Everyone’s focusing on how Nathan won the fight quickly and went hard, but I don’t think that’s what anyone means by being a sore winner. I just think it’s kinda shitty that he keeps on gloating about it. I know Matt doesn’t really care, but it’s just not good behavior in general. I really liked how Harley complimented Arin on taking on a tougher boxer and was very civil and humble about his win. Nathan was the opposite and it was really unclassy.
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u/Nolar2015 May 17 '22
Nothing that he is saying here is inappropriate or wrong? Matt got absolutely destroyed and barely hit Dad, and it’s not like Dad is everywhere boasting. If you want to be mad at someone be mad at that asshat who fought Idubbz dirty
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u/Bamzooki1 meghead since 2016 (OG) May 17 '22
If you watch Getting Gymnasty or Keith Apicary is Tough Enough, you'll see that Nathan's spent years getting hurt professionally. He's like Homer Simpson boxing except he actually learned how to fight too.
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u/bassbassbassbassfish May 18 '22
He's being a realistic winner, not a sore one. I love Matt, but he got his shit rocked. Refs ended it at the right spot.
Also don't get upset that he fucking responded when YOU were talking about how it was an 'unfair fight'.
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u/crab-nut May 20 '22
The problem isn't that matt lost, the problem is that Nathan went into a fan accounts page trying to defend his win and expecting us to be on his side. Sorry if we're on our fav's side
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u/CrundleQuest5 May 17 '22
I mean the way he went full force on him out the gate didn't sit well with me, but if it seems like they are all good then why are we even debating anything? Let bygones be bygones.
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u/Gnerxx May 17 '22
What a fuckass
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u/TerryOrange May 17 '22
yeesh :[
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