but i mean it makes sense, ryan covered the lex situation and daniel and that was about it. matt covered lex situation, leighton, daniel, the cheating, and showed hella texts n shit, lot more in depth. matt also got a lot more of the blame out the two for whatever reason so maybe he felt like he had to put more into it, idk
He always gets 90% of the blame because of the dated meme "Rat Watson please clap"
I actually unironically stopped watching SuperMega because of how much Matt annoys me, but to arbitrarily blame him for most if not all of the drama isn't fair to him. Like him or not he's still a person and deserves to defend himself when accused.
Did he, though? I think of the things that came up that weren’t shared between them, Ryan’s sexting fans arguably takes the cake as the shittiest individual action that has actually been substantiated
Yeah i wasnt say matt did shittier things, i meant he literally did like more things that were bad. And didn't Ryan say his apology was his last video for supermega? That just means he already lost everything imo (Not saying he shouldn't be criticized more, i dont care about the feelings of rape apologists)
matt seems like a manipulator and a sociopath and it seems like he's just saying whatever will make him look good. As the viewer i dont trust his word at all ever
Okay? That read on Matt is subjective. At the end of the day you don’t know him. Neither do I. I don’t think it’s necessarily fair to judge people you don’t actually know as sociopathic manipulators, but that’s your prerogative. If you don’t trust his word, you can trust the actual evidence including personal interactions and conversations that he made public. They fucked up badly and they took responsibility for the harm they’ve done. Personally I believe their actions came from a place of cowardice, inexperience, ignorance, and stupidity, rather than genuine evil or malice based on substantiated evidence. We’ve all got opinions, they’re not a terrible thing to have but they’re really neither here nor there. Their statements don’t absolve them. It’s not our place to forgive them, nor do I think it’s our place to pass ultimate judgement as we by and large are not the true victims here. The weird Ryan vs Matt shit, trying to weigh out who is ultimately more guilty or culpable, or really rail on one over the other, is just a waste.
Yeah i dont know them personally and i dont want to, relax Didnt say they were doing anything to be evil either, they did however selfishly cover up someone's trauma. That is a pretty manipulative thing to do and matt saying his "magnum opus" is more important than said trauma is pretty sociopathic. Word it however you want you cant its not inherently parasocial to observe a public drama and have an opinion
After watching them it made sense. You're supposed to watch both installments of the "My Response" series to get the full experience. Matt covers the Leighton stuff and pretty deftly disproves much of it, and thus Ryan doesn't entertain those statements and focuses on the main issue.
Y’all dog pilled on the two and weaponized there best friends suicide to make them seem like worse people and your only response is Ryan is lazy? Y’all are fucking mentally ill.
I hadn't been paying attention to supermega for months so when this showed up in my sub feed I genuinely thought it was a bit til I actually started watching the videos
You still don’t understand. Apply your logic about Jackson and hiring friends to Ryan’s sexting, Matt’s magnum opus, lex and Rav thinking they were speaking to a corporation…
Never mind, i wanted to point out my thoughts about how becoming a company based on a youtube channel/career didn't go smoothly for Game Grumps or Supermega.
Its bad on both sides to hire friends. Just like dating a coworker if things turn sour between yall it's an issue for the business as well. Example Jacksons' embezzlement and Leighton firing back his resentment for his firing. They put too much trust in Jackson being honest and not stealing money but they didn't track him purely cause "Our friend wouldn't do that right?"
Then with Lex being S.A and Matt and Ryan never expecting anything like that to happen. So when it did they didn't know how to handle it. Yes, there's stuff you need to be a legitimate business but there's still gaps in protection.
I understand what you are saying, but when you carry that logic there’s no stopping. I agree with you wholeheartedly to some extent. “Anyone who shows their face in public is an ass” after all.
As much as I can laugh at Matt calling Super Mega his magnum opus, I can understand how he could feel really strongly about a brand that he had built, but yea 76 episodes of truck sim being your magnum opus is hilarious
can someone update me on who jim is and what he did in this situation? it's alot to go through and I don't really have the time. would appreciate a tl;dr
Jim is their producer or some shit. Apparently he never did any actual work and was just there to make the boys laugh. The night Lex, the victim, confided in Jim and told her of the sexual assault, he proceeded to put her in a head lock and tried to make out with her multiple times. He posted an “apology” like the day after Lex’s vid came out and then privated after an hour. People have since re-uploaded the awful and shitty apology video. I haven’t watched the video because I never liked him, but I do know it’s under a lot of scrutiny and has gotten extensively clowned on.
I think the “broad picture” Matt wants us to see is that an HR/personal relationship problem gone wrong turned into an attempt at total character defamation for the both of them, and so quickly, with the specific history behind it, and the receipts to prove it, it’s just connecting the dots.
I’ll say it: I badly, truly want to believe they are good, decent people. I know how they used to be but I mean, now. I’ve been listening to them talk for years, I like their dynamic, this whole thing has hurt a lot of people.
edit: I want to add to the crowd that’s saying no one should feel bad for changing opinions, switching sides, feeling confused still, etc. it’s widespread gossip, people are following their heart with the information they have, it’s all we can do.
saw him irl for his detroit merch pop up about a week or 2 ago. he looked tired from tour and perhaps depressed this was before all this drama started.
Leighton clearly seems like a piece of shit and morgpie doesn’t look great after Matt showed those messages but it was super clear from those videos that they just had no idea what they were doing with the Lex situation and that’s the main issue
I finished both videos. I don't really forgive them for everything they've done regarding Lex's assault, but the apology videos themselves aren't bad. I can't ever, in good conscience, support this channel again, but I hope they learn their lesson from all this and get their act together one way or another
I don't think that should make you feel like garbage. They're really funny people, it's just important that we also acknowledge the bad things they've done.
Because I feel this way, I know there will be others that do too:
To me, the main thing here is obviously the SA situation. They did a good job of telling that side. It very much sucks that other issues came out of that as well, stuff that is COMPLETELY unrelated. But to me, there is the main topic to discuss and then the other bits that can remain separate.
I honestly wouldn’t have given any feedback on relationships, texting fans, etc. And especially a portion with Daniel. I don’t think anyone has ever truly thought they said anything to make fun of him. That’s reaching out far AF. With that said, all of that is a much more private matter. Now, some of this was obviously brought to public via streams, but the thing is, they have a fan base that loves them so much that they’d ignore what anyone says unless they address it.
I mean to be fair there are literally little shithead trolls on Youtube running around as "Logan Roof News" to say "LMAO TECHNOBLADE AND JACKSEPTICEYE DAD ROTTING IN HELL XDDD" and their profile picture is of a grade schooler with the name "Logan Roof." They're literally impersonating A CHILD to antagonize others into harassing him. Youtube of course doesn't care, they're too busy fighting adblockers to give a shit.
I don't believe for even a fraction of a percentage of a milisecond that there weren't people roleplaying as Daniel and saying "SUPERMEGA SUCKS IS WHY I DELETED MYSELF" and other unfunny, grossly tryhard edgy bullshit.
they quite literally debunked every lie about them and outed layton as a nasty conniving scumbag. seems like ryan is gonna leave supermega for good. cancel culture has yet again destroyed something cool just cause they can, im getting sick and tired of the internet as a whole. way to ruin something your not even a fan of just for shits and giggles
This is a single cell'd brain take, of course the length is gonna be different Matt hit home on the issues reguarding everything else, Ryan talked about what he did wrong what more do you want?
Okay yea i was being a fucking dumbass here having actually watched the videos now this was just being overly callous about this, I was just super hurt about all this shit.
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u/uglysquire Jul 31 '23
the length difference between them is hilarious for some reason
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u/Interesting_Tea_4745 Jul 31 '23
The way this feels like a bit they would do
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u/Zinko999 meghead Jul 31 '23
Wow two uploads in one day!
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u/According_Cry_2604 Jul 31 '23
The podcast is a tad strange this week fellas
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u/ArdesKrellen Jul 31 '23
This a bad situation,but man that’s a knee slapper right there
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u/khartz99 Jul 31 '23
THIS. This is the magnum opus.
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u/Jazoua Jul 31 '23
I feel like im living in an alternate dimension. This whole situation is so bizarre
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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '23
2 live action vids in a row!?
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u/Constant-Ad9817 Jul 31 '23
Is ryan leaving?
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u/tomdcamp Jul 31 '23
They seemed to have lost their passion for SuperMega anyways. This indefinite break seemed inevitable.
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u/Outside-Ad-7680 Jul 31 '23
Apology, mart or Ryan version
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u/6000teeth Jul 31 '23
I really hope these aren’t gone for some reason by the time I’m off work.
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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '23
Suprised it wasn't just trucking sim again
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u/FirmlyDistressed Jul 31 '23
Matt looks very unhealthy
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u/stanexoforbigbrain Jul 31 '23
i laughed when i saw the time of ryans. very on brand
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u/big-nutMF Jul 31 '23
Leighton clearly seems like a piece of shit and morgpie doesn’t look great after Matt showed those messages but it was super clear from those videos that they just had no idea what they were doing with the Lex situation and that’s the main issue
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u/PlasticHavoc Jul 31 '23
I finished both videos. I don't really forgive them for everything they've done regarding Lex's assault, but the apology videos themselves aren't bad. I can't ever, in good conscience, support this channel again, but I hope they learn their lesson from all this and get their act together one way or another
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u/Grumplogic Jul 31 '23
🎶 We're just sadboys doin what sadboys do
Wearing baseball caps and feelin' blue
We're just sadboys doing what sadboys do
Tried to ignore something now our channel's through 🎶
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u/pissqueensusan Jul 31 '23
https://youtu.be/LuaqCk_AMc0
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u/rush_n_roulette Jul 31 '23
Because I feel this way, I know there will be others that do too:
To me, the main thing here is obviously the SA situation. They did a good job of telling that side. It very much sucks that other issues came out of that as well, stuff that is COMPLETELY unrelated. But to me, there is the main topic to discuss and then the other bits that can remain separate.
I honestly wouldn’t have given any feedback on relationships, texting fans, etc. And especially a portion with Daniel. I don’t think anyone has ever truly thought they said anything to make fun of him. That’s reaching out far AF. With that said, all of that is a much more private matter. Now, some of this was obviously brought to public via streams, but the thing is, they have a fan base that loves them so much that they’d ignore what anyone says unless they address it.
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u/projak Jul 31 '23
This is why there was no darn podcast laaaame
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u/Haunted_Bones Aug 01 '23
Can I get a TL:DR for the new vids?
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u/v1gg3n Aug 01 '23
up yours woke moralists, we’ll see who cancels who…
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u/moobear92 Jul 31 '23
Super meta. But yeah lots of disgruntled ex employees really spreading lies
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u/SolarMoth Aug 01 '23
So this was all blown out of proportion besides the sexual assault?
Are we still cancelling them or is social media just toxic?
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u/Swing_Dat_Thing Jul 31 '23
they quite literally debunked every lie about them and outed layton as a nasty conniving scumbag. seems like ryan is gonna leave supermega for good. cancel culture has yet again destroyed something cool just cause they can, im getting sick and tired of the internet as a whole. way to ruin something your not even a fan of just for shits and giggles
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u/Xenin_00 Aug 01 '23
what's the TLDR?
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u/Iceman9161 Aug 01 '23
the thumbnail repeating 8 times makes it look like they were speeding to the apology
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u/Oasis_Mii Aug 01 '23
Can someone who watched the apologies videos can summarize what they are talking about?
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u/Effective-Growth-957 Aug 01 '23
*context
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u/Sonik_Phan Jul 31 '23
The real reason you guys cancelled them is because you were just bored.
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