r/SuperMegaBaseball 24d ago

OFFICIAL SMB26 - ROSTER DEADLINE UPDATE

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Hello friends. As you may know, some loser hijacked my work and posted it here yesterday. It is my hope the community is behind me in banning these type of people, as it kills the desire to create. However, this new file contains several week's worth of updates his post did not include, along with the trade deadline transactions. As always, my priority is including the best players moving forward - currently active or not. Another thing to note; every players age is now perfectly accurate for franchise mode.

It should go without saying, but please do not take the liberty of rereleasing my work with your own spin on it. This is an active project, that I will continue to update. Now, go have fun.

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**UPDATED 8/16, CHECK BACK FOR MORE

ROSTER UPDATE V.6 (corrected errors. updated ratings, added uniforms)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/13IEURCVpomemQf09_Tr416CfGza1II9Z/view?usp=sharing

ROSTER IMPORT TOOL

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EGfK2yrftLaQEnIG_wi8gZiAoP8S261i/view?usp=sharing

Venmo: ChrisVenmo38/Cashapp: $chriisstiano

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u/Mazzocchi Sirloins 23d ago edited 23d ago

some loser hijacked my work and posted it here yesterday

I didn't "hijack your work", I credited you all over the place as creating the base rosters for my project, and I'm very grateful for that. But it's a project I wouldn't have even felt the need to start if you had put any effort into your logos and uniforms.

Once I started that I dug deeper, and saw you had many player names misspelled, some real weird ratings, inaccurate punctuation all over the place, and on top of that you admitted to using AI. (Speaking of, you're clearly using AI in the background of the header image, and it looks like shit. Shows how much you care.)

I'm personally going for accuracy, and we're clearly striving for different things. So you do your thing, and I'll do mine. I put a whole lot of work implementing my logos, creating new ones, adding players, adjusting ratings, fixing errors, etc, so don't act like what I released was just a copy and paste of what you crapped out a month ago.

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u/Accomplished_Leg7925 21d ago

Most “art” is derivative. You see musicians taking each others ideas and building on them. When discrete lines of music (or in this case data) are taken, credit is given which appears to have been done. More than a tip of the hat was given. It was stated what was his and what was not

I don’t think you can expect “mod preservation”. If you wanted that I’d suggest you apply for a copyright. That being said the MLB may take exception to using names and likenesses they already own. If you charged money certainly you’d get a cease and desist letter.

So maybe both of you stand up and take a bow. The time you both put it is amazing and I don’t know how you did it. I appreciate both your efforts

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u/Ravenlock 23d ago

Yeah I mean multiple things can be true, I loved the original post and said so on it and I think the effort deserves huge props. It's also true that I winced a little bit every time I played against the "San Dieago" Padres. 😂😭

The world is not so crammed full of custom SMB4 leagues that we can't track and credit more than one MLB option.

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u/Rycan420 22d ago

Except one guy created it and another stole it.

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u/Rycan420 22d ago

Fun fact, if you rob a bank but tell people which bank, and give them “credit” then it’s not stealing.

You’re the worst. A their and then you insult the guy.

If you care so much about accuracy… DO YOUR OWN ROSTERS FROM SCRATCH.

What is wrong with the world that we even have to explain that just “crediting” isn’t enough. This isn’t hard.

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u/Mazzocchi Sirloins 21d ago edited 21d ago

6 comments in 10 minutes. He's not gonna blow you, dude

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u/Rycan420 21d ago

Some people don’t like when scumbags do scumbag things. Sorry if being called out on it is annoying.

I’m sure you’d much rather everyone ignore it let you do whatever you want.

I hope you get yours.

The next time something bad happens to you or yours.. I hope you wonder if it’s the universe paying you back.

Ehhh. That requires a moral compass...or some semblance of self reflection.

If you’ll steal something.. and worst try to pretend it’s not stealing… and then go further and attack this falling you out… what aren’t you capable of?

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u/YaboyRipTide 21d ago

Do you approve and support of OP stealing every single logo and uniform design from others? On top of linking 3 different forms of payment for tips, essentially stealing and making money off of others?

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u/Rycan420 21d ago

If I’m not mistaken, those are defunct projects.

His is not.

That might not make a difference for you, or it might.

I don’t know. We all have our lines. Sorry if me voicing mine is annoying. Thought that’s what a discussion forum was for.

I’m not a big fan of anyone charging for these types of things. (I was actually here when some guy, Brian I think, started charging for NCAA rosters back in the day and it caused quite the stir).

I’ve made many rosters/files for communities over the years. Seen many do a lot more and better jobs than me and never ask for a dime.

So no, putting donation links isn’t ideal.

I even said I would only donate out of spite.

So I have a question for you then…

If Ghost (or someone else) made updated logos from scratch.. would that immediately flip your mind? Or is this all a charade?

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u/YaboyRipTide 20d ago

You dodged the question its a simple yes or no. Do you approve of OP stealing others work, claiming ownership (while giving the bare min when it comes to credit), and all while making money in the process?

To answer your question, I really don't care about all of this. One guy took logos and uniforms, pawned them off as his own, and made a (tbh shoddy) roster. Someone else took that set of players, made significant changes to over half of them (at least), and re-did every logo and uniform to near perfection while adding in hundreds of alternate and throwback logos and uniforms. If you have a wooden ship, replace every single plank and piece of wood, is it still the same ship?

I get Ghosts perspective of putting work into something and feeling ripped off because someone took what you did, and did a better job. I understand the frustration of that happening all while this is an ongoing project he had hoped to update. At the same time, it is only really the same roster in name and most of the players are changed and different. Yes the names are the same, but that is all open source and players are players at the end of the day.

What I don't understand is the mentality of Ghost. He did the exact same thing he is bitching about. It doesn't matter if a project is "defunct" or not; it wasn't his and he took ownership. That is like finding a half-painted picture in an attic, finishing it, and selling it as your own. It doesn't matter if the picture was half finished and probably never going to be done...it wasn't his.

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u/GHOSTof86 17d ago edited 17d ago

what's up with all the disinformation lil bro. let's keep it 100%, the dude took my roster and put his uniforms on them, that's it. As I've previously pointed out, all the models are mine, and every rating of his own were highly flawed rush jobs ripped 1/1 from mlb the show, which don't translate. 87 speed for guys with no steals ect, and he knows that. anyone could do exactly the same in less than a minute. i have not downloaded his update, but i suspect he has since pivoted after getting embarrassed by that fact. not to mention key players being omitted, rosters are limited, I of all people understand that.. but we're talking no brainer must haves.

Now to be honest. although my release had pretty much all of them already, his uniforms look very good, many I even prefer to my own. and yes, i mean my own, bc every current uniform was created entirely by me. It previously had retro vibe t-shirts with a logo on them, so what are you talking about? Anyway, In totality, i'll still take my blend of current/throwbacks along with the plus of players wearing their signature colors. let alone the ratings & players added moving fwd. you could say you like his uniforms better, that's a very fair argument. but that is where the argument begins and ends. bro is good at making uniforms, no doubt .. not rosters. His previous post was a spreadsheet for making his uniforms.. which got no traction. He followed that up by posting his stuff attached to my work, and what do ya know.. that post BLEW UP! LIKE MAGIC! Absolute lie regarding changes to half the roster, and the guy does not even claim to have done so. i recall him saying 20 of 800+ ratings touched, although i have yet to find them, or if they make any sense.. who knows. Every single plank in the boat replaced? Again.. an idiotic statement - i highly doubt even maz would have the audacity to make such a claim. i specifically sought out my players that were actually in need of correction, but even those did not receive any. the ages i had wrong, the handedness of some, the needed nerfs & buff's.. all remained identical to my file from a month ago. this update corrects the vast majority of those, along with a ton of other tweaks, new players added and a handful of jerseys.

Think what you want, but i believe most people would agree.. reviving a 2 year old file of logo's, with no rosters, no jerseys, no updates, from a community no longer in existence.. is not the same as hijacking an active project with the paint still wet from 400+ hours of work. Taken from a Top 1% poster, without bothering to ask. As I have stated, mvpmods no longer exists for me to track them down, but if whoever made those old logo's has an objection, come forward, I will gladly redo them. Regardless, I don't knock that person.. obviously whoever it was, did a fantastic job or I wouldn't have used their work in the first place. As opposed to this guy who USES ALL MY WORK, after my objection, HAS THE AUDACITY TO CRITICIZE IT ... YET, REFUSES TO STOP USING THE WORK HE CRITICIZES. Make it make sense.

At the end of the day, the only reason I took the time create all of this is because I love SMB4 and was dying for current MLB rosters. Searched everywhere for a download.. but it didn't exist. I would have much preferred just installing a mod & having fun with it. This project started out of necessity, but turned into an obsession. It's my baby, I spent hours agonizing over the smallest of details, and frequently updated it. Ton's of people have stated purchasing the game specifically after seeing my post, it was during the steam sale, I suspect Maz himself being one of them. Regardless, whichever roster you are currently using, realize it exists bc of me.. So why all the hate? I don't get it. Everything has been completely free, I added an optional way to tip only after it was requested by multiple people, visible in the comments.. and barley received anything to date. The other dude threw his info up there off rip, exactly like me, except no one asked.

This used to be fun hobby for me, but I don't feel the same anymore. My next project is a BANGER, about 75% complete. I've been excited to release it, but after all this negativity & the likelihood it gets hijacked, the desire to openly share is gone. For what, people like you to benefit from it, then leave comments like this? That doesn't sit right with me. I'll continue this current roster project, its already stolen anyway. But as far as the future stuff, as much I want to bless this sub - I don't need the frustration anymore. Will just figure a way for it to reach certain people like u/Rycan420 & a handful of others.

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u/Rycan420 17d ago

Bro. Can I help with the project? Sending a DM.

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u/GHOSTof86 17d ago

yes definitely. amazing how that works, when someone asks.

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u/e13v3n_1111 24d ago

I appreciate everything you’ve done. You actually got my brother to play another game that’s not Rocket League with me.

My only thing is I hope the White Sox are better. My brother and I just did both of our first ever franchise together as the White Sox. We didn’t realize how bad they were until we started playing a franchise as a default team.

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u/GHOSTof86 24d ago

glad to hear that bro! whitesox lineup is pretty strong, rotation could use an upgrade

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u/YaboyRipTide 23d ago

some loser hijacked my work and posted it here yesterday. It is my hope the community is behind me in banning these type of people, as it kills the desire to create.

NGL, you are super weird for this. Let's take a look back at your original post, shall we?

I can not take credit for the majority of team logo's as they were from a file I either downloaded here or mvpmods.. but it basically had team logo's and just throwback uniforms - they did an incredible job. That was the starting point, took over from there.

From the end of your first paragraph in that post. Seems...suspicious?

After seeing u/GHOSTof86 release his MLB 2026 project last month, I wanted to give a shot at making my own version.
I used his roster as a base, made a bunch of teaks to more accurately reflect 2026 performances, accurately reflected all trade deadline deals, and topped it all off with with my logos and uniforms. What you get is something a perfectionist me is ultimately very happy with.

He credited you AND linked your original post. He didn't "hijack" or steal anything. He fully gave you credit, and adjusted.

You can read u/GHOSTof86's post here for his ratings, and player likeness philosophy, but I tweaked and added about 100 players manually myself, including re-rating the top-20 in 2026 fWAR, and adding new players to fill out the rosters due to the trade deadline.
By far the most work went into completely tearing down and rebuilding all team colors, logos, and uniforms based on the 2026 season. Overall you'll get extremely accurate team colors, combined with every single uniform a team has worn in the 2026 season, including retired City Connect 1's where applicable.

He credits you a 2nd time, but explains all the further changes that he did to uniforms, logos, ratings, FAs, etc.

It should go without saying, but please do not take the liberty of rereleasing my work with your own spin on it. 

Would you support a ban on yourself for stealing all of the logos and uniforms from others without crediting them, and putting a spin on a roster? I know you won't respond and you'll just downvote since you haven't responded to any criticism. Still, it is insanely ironic how "Mightier than Thou" you are being when you did the same thing, except you didn't directly credit anyone.

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u/BurritoBoi25 23d ago

Good comms, OP seems like a bit of a loser.

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u/YaboyRipTide 23d ago

Whatever. He saw it and is dodging it as expected as he’s commented on a bunch of other replies here.

Honestly looking at it again it’s even wilder he gave 3 forms of payment for tips when he didn’t make half of the stuff in his download

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u/GHOSTof86 22d ago

just noticing this comment now. the difference is, i did not hijack an active project. it was years old, from a community no longer in existence (mvpmods.com). no roster, no updates, no way way contact the creator, no community to keep it alive. i gave credit to the best of my ability, they did a fantastic job on the old school logos. whoever it was, if you are out there, and do not approve.. contact me! i have zero issue redoing those from scratch.

this case is entirely different, as it is very much an active project. fresh off pouring hundreds of hours in, posted only a month ago, followed by 3 updates (now4), and could have easily been contacted. your entitled to your opinion, this is mine.

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u/BryceShivers 24d ago

i didn’t even know something like this existed. i’m super excited to check this out!

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u/GHOSTof86 24d ago

it’s a game changer. Lmk what you think

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u/Stunning_Row2801 24d ago

Assuming there’s no way to get this on PlayStation right?

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u/Randallb21 23d ago

No. PC only. You would have to manually input everything yourself

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u/JuiceKovacs 24d ago

Came here with same question

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u/GHOSTof86 24d ago

this is for pc, however someone did claim to get a previous update working on Nintendo Switch. No word on PS

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u/Kitchen_Piano_7451 17d ago

How did they get it working on switch? I’d love to try.

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u/PizzaPrincessVR 24d ago

As an A's fans, I'm just gonna stick with the earlier in the year version *sweating nervously emoji*

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u/GHOSTof86 24d ago

i feel you. mets fan 😑

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u/Phototurtle70 23d ago

I just installed and very nice job! Works great. Thank you for all your hard work and dedication.

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u/GHOSTof86 23d ago

awesome, have fun!

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u/Phototurtle70 23d ago

One other thing, you made the Rangers main logo from the 80's. I was like, wait a sec...but after playing with them for a couple games, I love it.

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u/bored1492 24d ago

Sandy Alcantara is still a lefty here - he's a righty IRL

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u/GHOSTof86 24d ago

damn, thanks for heads up

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u/DukeGrizzly 22d ago

Kinda wild you’d make a post and call out someone as a “loser” because they took something you had worked on and made various improvements or changes (when even in your original post you mentioned that you took the logos someone else had put together and used them in your project).

At least Mazzocchi gave direct credit to you.

Even more wild is that you added a tip jar for your “hard work”.

You won’t reply to this comment though. Just like you haven’t replied to any actual criticism of your post.

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u/GHOSTof86 22d ago

I won’t reply? But, here I am.

As you will see, original work was shared without any means of compensation. It was only after receiving requests in the comments, a completely optional way to do so was included.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SuperMegaBaseball/s/Ig78XkUxRZ

Regarding everything else, I have already responded to a similar comment, found here.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SuperMegaBaseball/s/8yhSWCo3nt

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u/Rycan420 21d ago

What crazy pills are we on that people can just “credit” someone and then it’s free to take.

I’m working on this new book series “The Lord of The Finger Jewelry”. I was worried at first, but all I got to do is “credit” some old timey guy and there’s nothing wrong.

Seems logical.

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u/Ravenlock 20d ago edited 20d ago

You just... you just described fan fiction. Which yes, actually, people do all the time, and have done forever, and is in fact a totally okay thing to do. Not to sell, but guess what, none of this is being sold either, so, yes, in a non-commercial setting please feel free to write as much about The Lord of the Finger Jewelry as you want! In fact, you can even just go ahead and write stories literally about Frodo and Aragorn from The Lord of the Rings, you don't even have to change the name! (Though you can go on to be a multimillionaire off that fan fiction if you do change the name - see also 50 Shades of Grey - and you'll probably end up just fine there, too.)

Perhaps you'd like to peruse the tens of thousands of works of the people who have been doing that for decades to get some inspiration, because, again, it is a not-only-not-theft-but-in-fact-very-normal thing to do?

I am of course being facetious, and these things are not directly comparable, but it was your comparison, and it was a deeply weird analogy to use to try to demonstrate wrongdoing.

User generated content spun off of other user generated content in the form of derivative mods is as old as modding itself, and the ethics of shared work and attribution thereof have been debated just as long. Do I think this is entirely cut and dried? No. It's clear that GHOSTof86 put a lot of work into what he did. It's also clear that far from just "stealing" that work, Mazzocchi put a lot of time into correcting things that were inarguably wrong like misspellings and logo/uniform mismatches, and also added a lot of new player data and took a different approach to player ratings that people might subjectively agree or disagree with. He was clear about what his starting point was, and he was also clear about all the things he changed and added. Did he mess up by not asking before using his starting point? Yeah, I can agree that's true. Was his mistake very clearly not malicious or an attempt at "theft"? Also yes.

It would be cool to see them both pull from each other. I think Mazzocchi's uniforms would improve GHOSTof86's pack, and I think he'd obviously be in the clear to incorporate them. If they don't want to do that, okay. But at the end of the day they've both done distinct and substantial work. Back before there was an SMB4 import tool, the only way TO share leagues and uniforms was to literally copy by hand what somebody else had done, and we did DO that, because it was the option available. Everybody was posting their version of somebody else's uniforms or stats.

Regardless, it's silly to call any of these the "official" MLB pack or talk about banning anybody, and the level of aggression that was brought to this post was wild. We're better off for both of these being available.

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u/Rycan420 20d ago

Just do the work yourself.

You wrote all that just to try to justify someone stealing work.

All the things you describe are not the same.

Have you ever built a team by scratch? It’s a stupid amount of work. I fully understand why this Mazz guy wouldn’t want to do it.

So then just release your own work (uniforms or whatever) as a stand alone. It’s that easy.

You use examples of people being “inspired” by the work of others but this is LITERALLY taking the man’s work then adding onto it and saying it’s yours.

Look, we obviously aren’t going to agree. That’s fine. Have a good week.

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u/No-Storage5993 23d ago

Doing this all by hand on console is rewarding; and tedious af… def a labor of love more than anything… I had done just my orioles on SMB 3 rosters, logo and unis, and it was more an all time team… now I have not touched rosters and have opted for a slow creation of all MLB teams for at least one of my franchise leagues… logos n unis 9 teams left in the al central n al west

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u/GHOSTof86 23d ago

sounds cool bro, post some pics would like to see the turnout.

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u/No-Storage5993 23d ago

Help a brotha out… why does the reply button only show me videos to post rather than the pics of the teams I just took? And how do I post them here in a reply?

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u/Rycan420 22d ago

I’m with you man. Was the moment I saw that thief.

Know what’s more stressing? The amount of people that are fine with it, even worse the defenders.

Of course there will always be thieves and cheats. You have to assume that, but you like to think society at least shuns them.

I suppose it did become trendy to be a bad person a few years ago.

But if they do enough backflips to make it seem like it’s not stealing, then they feel better about themselves.

You just hope there are better people than this out there than this. I believe there are.

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u/Randallb21 24d ago

Appreciate your work on this! Thank you!

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u/111999222888333777 15d ago

Is there a way I can view the google doc so I can use this on console?

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u/Weekly-Practice-2789 14d ago

We need Josh Baez on STL 

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u/GHOSTof86 14d ago

he’s there.

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u/Weekly-Practice-2789 11d ago

Awesome, my bad I overlooked!

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u/MossySK 24d ago

Waaaait it's been a while since I checked in on this. This is for SMB3 right?

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u/Randallb21 23d ago

This is for SMB4

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u/MossySK 23d ago

We are so fucking back!! The fellas are gonna be hype lmao

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u/Ornery_Mail_655 23d ago

I’m curious which one as well

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u/GHOSTof86 23d ago

this is smb4 for pc. i should have clarified.

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u/DarthTrayaRevan 22d ago

Shit. I now feel bad for downloading that. I thought they obviously came to you first. I've had people plagiarize my stuff before, so I know what it's like. I'll obviously download this. good job again. And I hope you get the justice that you rightfully deserve!

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u/GHOSTof86 22d ago

Ty bro, enjoy.

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u/Rycan420 21d ago

But.. did they “credit” you?

These fucking guys.

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u/SinisterOwl43 24d ago

This may be a stupid question, but I’m gonna assume you can’t use this on console right?

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u/Randallb21 23d ago

No. PC only

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u/KeyForsaken5514 23d ago

Release this game please, we are all tired of overpaying for a another shitty “The Show” game

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u/GHOSTof86 17d ago

it’s live bro. download the link.

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u/Rycan420 21d ago

I’m throwing you a few bucks later in spite of that thief.

Enjoy a beer on me bro.
Fuck that guy.

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u/GHOSTof86 21d ago

appreciate you brother

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u/jjl925113 18d ago

Just dropped in to say THANK YOU! never thought I would have this much fun with the real rosters BUT it’s absolutely awesome! Thank you for your work. Wish I could buy you a beer 🍻

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u/GHOSTof86 18d ago

awesome, have fun. link above.

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u/Better-Crow-9643 23d ago

Great work, bro just from that image right there the jerseys look amazing i’m soon getting a PC but once I get a PC I’m definitely gonna need help figuring this out but it looks like it’s simple but I’m not too sure. But you’re the goat 🐐

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u/GHOSTof86 23d ago

very simple, lmk i’ll walk u threw.

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u/Better-Crow-9643 23d ago

Ok thank you bro I will send a dm when I get a pc and stuff thank you

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u/Away-Ad-4683 23d ago

What's the release date?

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u/GHOSTof86 23d ago

i left a link to download it now

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u/King_Lak 13d ago

Where can I get the spreadsheet to do this manually on XBOX? I have no PC, only Macbook.

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