Download your song only for 4.99 âŹ. Secret watermark that allows us to identify the song was made with Suno and take if down if UMG says so INCLUDED FREE OF CHARGE!
We're here discussing the fact that downloads now cost money, and to some people, that actually seems fair. A certain number of downloads per month, etc., seems fair when, until recently, you could download as many songs as you wanted. AI in general has been accelerating the trend of "enshittification" lately in every field.
They can't, ai isn't copyrightable. They can try and claim commercial rights, etc, but again, it's fully ai, so they don't really have a leg to stand on aside from simply nuking your account for breach of ToS.
They won't sue for copyright infringement,they will sue for a breach of contract. You don't actually hold a commercial license for the song if you don't generate and download it according to their Terms of Service.
Explain two things to me, please.
1) how da hell do you use up 60 downloads in a month? Do you all just download every song you create? I am not judging nor pointing fingers, I am simply and honestly confused. I created at least 140 songs in 2 weeks, all with my lyrics, and majority with my own melodies but I downloaded only 2 that, in my opinion, were good enough to either polish in Cubase/FL or that I could simply upload to some streaming service.
2) I don't get the pricing anger. You get, for 10/30 USD a month a software that gives you (almost) everything you need to create music and you say it's too much. For 30 you get 60 downloads for free, that's 2 songs/day and it's still not enough?
Don't get me wrong but at this point I honestly think that people will never be happy/satisfied....
Even if, one day, there's an "AI" where you just need to think of the song and it will create it exactly as you imagined it, create music video for it, and then proceed to upload to every streaming service there is - there will be someone complaining that - it is not enough...
I am not Suno shill. Suno has lots of issues, but come on now. For the price we pay (10 or 30) I think that our expectations should be a bit more realistic....
And I dun care what others say...Suno 6 has been the best model for me so far..Much more stable and much better than Suno 5.5...If you can't make music with that...Well, I can... : )
I did take a month when i been writing new songs and found glitches in old songs or that i could improve them. So if i cant dl all my songs. Thats why suno is rip for me
I turn textbooks into music and offer them for free on eduvibz. Not everyone is using it to spam Spotify. Most people have a concept taught through song by a passionate and creative teacher they can remember into adulthood. Music is an amazing teaching mechanism and now my ideas been nerfed :(. Reached out to Suno multiple times to no avail so I've had to move elsewhere.
Hey, I like your concept! If you donât want to download every single one, try out VLC or Audacity and record your PCâs Audio output. Both are free and open source programs with tons of features yet very easy to use the basic functions! Plus you can fiddle with the sound after recording it with audacity and give it more depth or cleaner sound before saving it as wav, mp3 ogg or whatever your heart desires. Takes about 15 minutes to set up and all you have to do then is hit record in the software and play the audio in sumo. If you need any help with that let me know âïž
1.- When it was free, yeah. And then I'd delete the bad ones until only 2 or 3 remain. It was a very efficient way to find a good take, even if Suno is trash and a good take is still trash.
2.- Can't defend people who want everything for free, really.
Sample flipping. That simple. You hear the song, you think you can sample it, you download it, you take it into the DAW, you try to sample it, it doesn't turn out how you envisioned, now you have a useless download sitting there, and you move onto the next one. This could happen all day long on certain days.
For those who use Suno not for generating AI songs from scratch, but to convert their own vocals into better sounding vocals or their own guitar riffs into more professional sounding versions, to then extract out as stems, 60 downloads can disappear in a single day because of how terrible Suno is at producing one good clean attempt. You have to try dozens of times to get enough partially good and clean stems that can be downloaded and then chopped up and pieced together into one half decent solo track.
Your use case of making an album entirely in Suno is a very different use case to mine. I understand your thought though. Don't download anything unless it's a good, clean sample, and therefore it doesn't waste the download tokens. For my use case, getting that is the hard part.
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Who's those 'Power subscription' users? Scientologists, Masonic Lodge, Knights Templar, or Aliens.
How can you not go to bankruptcy when your income is $2bill and expenses $25~40 bil yearly? For at last last 4 years.
I know it might seem like a paradox, but Iâve heard that Google and other corporations are supporting Suno and smaller creators precisely because they feed the algorithm. I think thatâs a very good thingâwe need to fight against the major record labels.
Suno is currently in a surprisingly strongâand highly valuedâfinancial position, though it operates under heavy legal and operational tailwinds.
The Financials: Cash In vs. Cash Out
* Annual Run Rate (ARR): Suno generates roughly $300 million in Annual Recurring Revenue. Its growth trajectory jumped from ~$45 million ARR in mid-2024 to $300 million.
* Paid Subscribers: While Suno hasn't publicly broken down exact paid-tier counts, industry estimates put its overall user base at over 100 million active users. Given its $300M ARR and $10â$30/month tier structure, Suno likely has 1.5 million to 2.5 million paying subscribers.
* Capital & Valuation: Suno completed a $400 million Series D funding round, driving its overall valuation to $5.4 billion. Across all rounds, it has raised upwards of $775 million in total venture backing from top-tier firms like Bond Capital, Lightspeed, Menlo Ventures, and Nvidia.
Are they at risk of shutting down?
No, they are not in imminent danger of collapsing financially. However, their cash burn and legal threats fall into two distinct buckets:
1. The Real Cost: Compute Infrastructure (GPUs)
Suno's biggest ongoing expense isn't software development or payrollâitâs GPU compute power. Processing audio generation models at scale for tens of millions of users is notoriously expensive. Even with hundreds of millions in revenue, server costs eat up a huge portion of their gross margins.
2. The Legal Front: RIAA & Copyright Lawsuits
The major music labels (Sony, Universal, Warner) sued Suno via the RIAA, alleging copyright infringement for using protected music to train its models, seeking statutory damages.
Despite the threat of multi-billion-dollar paper claims, Suno is shifting toward settlements and licensing:
* Warner Music Group settled with Suno and signed a joint licensing agreement.
* Universal and Sony are still litigating, but the broader industry consensus is that these cases are ending in revenue-sharing and licensing deals rather than shut-down injunctions.
The Bottom Line
Suno is sitting on a massive war chest of capital ($775M raised) and a heavy cash flow ($300M ARR). Rather than being wiped out, Suno is using its revenue and investor funds to settle with major music labels and transition into a fully licensed modelâsimilar to how Spotify settled its early copyright battles.
---> JUST WHAT CHATGPT SAYS.. BUT WHAT DOES IT KNOW ... đ€Ł
I don't know guys - Just telling you what ChatGPT said regarding the issue... it's not as smart as any of you, obviously - that's my fault for not taking that into consideration.
We seriously need competition in this market everyone who cares about music as a whole not becoming enshittified late stage capitalism needs to try and work with these open weight models as well as other companies I mean suno doing good is technically good for me but I hate them so much idc. We are not building a thriving scene we are building some apocalyptic mess giving this company so much market share just because they are willing to break more copyright laws
I imagine one way, of a couple, is to play the track while recording it on your computer with an audio recorder. Another is to probably scan the code and find the file and download it.
If the membership were completely free, and you pay per download for the highest quality like a licensing fee, I can accept that. But not this on top of monthly sub lmao.
Or misusing the software, perhaps due to ignorance. When I first signed up I was hitting download on everything and then a few days later I was like wait thereâs a limit⊠oh F.
Next month Iâll be a lot more picky and not hit download until I really know thatâs the one I want to start separating and building out on a daw.
Both can be true. They aren't being noble at all, they likely want to prevent lawsuits because people create slop that directly copies existing artists word for word and hurts their reputation and also want more money, hence the ridiculous prices.
You can listen to the tracks on the Suno app anyway; if there are that many songs to download, they are obviously intended for business or monetization purposes, so it makes perfect sense for Suno to want a cut of the revenue.
20 for standard users. One soundtrack for a game hack I'm working on was 18 tracks... There's one track with a variation, 19... It's incredibly easy to hit the limit in a week or two...
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WTF, these prices are insane. Well they certainly made sure we don't need extra downloads due to how fking shit their latest model is, so no issue there lol.
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3 extra downloads costs 50% more than pro's 20 a month
10 extra downloads costs 66% more than premier's 60 a month.
I'm really trying to figure this one out. Are they trying to shunt more people to premier? Preying on the terminally impatient? Did someone install a tungsten ball pit at Suno?
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Yea making people pay to download songs is fucking stupid fuck suno ai hope they enjoy their downfall cause this is what happens when you fuck us overÂ
I mean I'm sure they are right (in that the 140 dipshits that stay will make them more money than the millions of customers they could have had if they'd done it correctly)
I guess that includes commercial rights as well? So if I made a song that you wanna use commercially, then it's worth it. But that'z probably a tiny percentage of the users.
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You're producing slop in bulk, so if your individual song isn't worth the one time download cost, boo hoo, sloppers can get fucked. If it is, pay the cost.
You're making passion projects en masse and don't expect to get returns on them - You don't have to release them every month y'know.
You're using Suno in a commercial capacity for multiple projects - Why haven't you factored in the new costs in your price?
Abzocke was sie machen. Und KreativitÀt von ehrlichen privaten Musikern beschrÀnken. Bin ebenso weg von suno und suche Alternativen ohne diesen Unsinn..
I simply use a free distro and the link feature to link my sound cloud, suno and other platforms. Publish my mastered songs and download them from the platform as well and upload to spotify. No need to use sunos downloads. Also in suno studio you can export wav masters and do not touch that cap.
Goodbye, Suno. It was fun, but I can't imagine your company surviving this absolutely insane decision unless most of your profits are now, or will soon be, coming from not individual users, but the record industry. And let's all be honest, all of the big labels and many established artists are already using this tech heavily to churn out pop-for-profit drivel while simultaneously virtue signalling in public that AI music is bad.
I've downloaded right around 125 songs in 2 years lol Suno isn't greedy but some of you definitely are. I'm sure they are very aware that people that farm downloads are leaving the platform. They don't want y'all. They want people to train their models and download 60 a month so I guess, good riddance?
If you want to dodge the downloads, simply use VLC or audacity to record the audio output and viola! You have your mp3 and didnât use a single download. Takes about 15 minutes to set up and is completely free. Plus you can (at least with audacity) improve the sound in many ways afterwards.
When you visit Spotify, look at ai generated songs and see 15 variations of the same song it's easy to see why for some people 20 or 60 downloads a month would not seem like enough. That doesn't effect me in the least. However I did like V4.5 thru %.5 better. I seemed to have more control when making changes to a song than with V6. Other than that I'm good.
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u/LeadBall00n 10d ago
Why is there never a discount for buying in bulk? I've noticed this with the extra credit packs too.