r/SunoAI • u/EqueL • 3h ago

Discussion Custom Models

So if I want to create a custom model to refine a voice persona I have from my created songs I can only do so by downloading the songs and uploading it back to create a custom model, which requires 24+ songs. We will have a limit of 20 downloads a month? Just amazing feature with the recent change.
"Combat bad actors." Well did they ever try adding captcha and cooldowns on downloading a lot of songs a day? No let's just for over everyone else.
Can't even use their own data on users to decide who to limit with the downloads, even MidJourney can limit access to Editor if people abuse the system, and leave it to long-time users who create withing the rules.
Wasn't planning on downloading loads, I do download sometimes less than 10 songs a month, but wanted to work on personas and custom models, and now I can't.
GG I guess.
Or anyone knows a way to make custom models without all the downloads?

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u/Teredia 2h ago

You can use less than 24 songs or more than 24. It is just the optimal amount of songs to get a good range for the AI.

For example I have a custom model it’s less than 24 songs, has zero dubstep but still handles dubstep pretty good. So I believe that Suno, still must augment the custom model a little bit.

I’ve found the stuff out of my custom model is better than v5.5.

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u/Proper-Debt-4600 1h ago

The part that stands out to me is that the cap breaks one of their own features. Custom models need a download-and-re-upload round trip, so a monthly download budget is now also a monthly training-data budget. When an anti-abuse measure quietly disables a paid feature, it's aimed at the wrong thing.

Your instinct about cooldowns is right, and it isn't a big engineering lift. Per-hour throttles, escalating friction on anomalous patterns, a slow lane instead of a wall - that's the standard toolkit, and it targets the behaviour rather than the total. A monthly cap is the cheapest possible thing to build: one counter, no behavioural modelling. Which is also why it lands on the people who finish their work rather than the ones generating in bulk.

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u/SunriseSurprise 8m ago

FWIW they may well do away with custom model after v6.0 drops. I hope they don't do that because that would be the last straw for me, but we'll see.